Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #67

[Trino]

I don’t understand why we are reopening areas for crowds to assemble while cases are skyrocketing.

Because we do not have a national plan.

 

[pocketaccent]

I am getting PISSED OFF! WTF is wrong with the people in our country???? Is your party and bar hopping and beach going and mask refusal and Disney trip worth the life of a six week old infant? Huh? IS IT??? What the hell is the matter with you people????
WHAT???

I feel the same anger. I'm more sad than angry though.
If we all wore a mask and avoided large gatherings, innocent souls didn't have to die before their time. It is mind-blowing some people think it's perfectly Okay to harm and kill other people by not wearing a mask during this critical time.

There really is a simple and easy way to beat this virus. Just wear a mask. Not complicated at all.

 

[gitana1]

It hasn't targeted kids because kids have been locked down and out of school since March. Sending them back to school while this pandemic is raging completely out of control is just asking for more kids to die. That is a numbers game we should not be playing.

No way in actual hell would I let my children near a school.

In some part but this started in nations where kids were still in school and we know the death rate or even rate of serious complications in children is vastly lower than most flu or other viruses.

 

[WichitaFalls]

'Code blue': Texas COVID deaths higher than publicly reported - and spiking

The large refrigerated trailer suddenly appeared one day near the loading dock at HCA Healthcare Northwest, taking some on staff by surprise. But soon its purpose became clear.

When a patient died last week in the hospital’s intensive care unit — nearly full these days of critically ill COVID-19 patients — the body was packed in ice and moved into the trailer. The hospital’s morgue was full. HCA officials confirmed the trailer was used as temporary storage until the body could be picked up by a funeral home.

As other hospitals have or prepare to follow suit, there is a stark new reality in Houston.


In the early months of the pandemic, it seemed as if Texas as a whole, and Houston specifically, were mostly spared the worst of the crisis, especially compared to the Northeast. In a city and state so big, the number of cases remained relatively small. So, too, did the number of dead, with nearly 3,000 reported in Texas so far. Overrun hospitals and makeshift morgues happened elsewhere — not in a city with the largest medical center complex in the world.

More at link . . .
'Code blue': Texas COVID deaths higher than publicly reported - and spiking

 

[Reasonable & Just]

Are you considering being like Ben ( the first guy here in thread #1 iirc from Wuhan who we followed) and wear goggles on the plane? He always wore goggles.. the tight ones like swimmers wear.

Just sayin'.......asking

Welp, maybe not going at all, my friend.....Mayor rolls back Atlanta’s reopening plan from Phase 2 to Phase 1

Maybe out some reservation $$$

 

[Bravo]

Welp, maybe not going at all, my friend.....Mayor rolls back Atlanta’s reopening plan from Phase 2 to Phase 1

Maybe out some reservation $$$

I think it's best you stay home. This thing is out of control in so many States.

 

[10ofRods]

Not sure if this got posted discussed:

11 year old boy dies of Covid in Florida

11 year old girl dies of Covid in Florida

Florida has thousands of kid cases, it's still rare - but if every kid gets it, not all are going to make it.

82 kids (plus staff) get CV-19 at Missouri summer camp

Too soon to know outcomes (and we may never know specific outcomes from that camp unless families go public with the outcomes)

 

[BlueShoe]

That’s the case with any data obtained. Which is why there is a margin for “error”. Overall, people are going to mostly tell the truth, IMO. And patterns can be established.

To fail to ask a question about possible attendance at mass gatherings is totally irresponsible, IMO.

People need to know the truth. Censorship of any kind during a health care crisis is wrong. People need as accurate information as possible in order to be able to protect themselves.

I'll go along with your answer. I think this whole pandemic experience has made me trust people much less than I used to. MOO

 

[SouthAussie]

'Code blue': Texas COVID deaths higher than publicly reported - and spiking

The large refrigerated trailer suddenly appeared one day near the loading dock at HCA Healthcare Northwest, taking some on staff by surprise. But soon its purpose became clear.

When a patient died last week in the hospital’s intensive care unit — nearly full these days of critically ill COVID-19 patients — the body was packed in ice and moved into the trailer. The hospital’s morgue was full. HCA officials confirmed the trailer was used as temporary storage until the body could be picked up by a funeral home.

As other hospitals have or prepare to follow suit, there is a stark new reality in Houston.


In the early months of the pandemic, it seemed as if Texas as a whole, and Houston specifically, were mostly spared the worst of the crisis, especially compared to the Northeast. In a city and state so big, the number of cases remained relatively small. So, too, did the number of dead, with nearly 3,000 reported in Texas so far. Overrun hospitals and makeshift morgues happened elsewhere — not in a city with the largest medical center complex in the world.

More at link . . .
'Code blue': Texas COVID deaths higher than publicly reported - and spiking

This is incredibly sad to hear. The last thing we want for our deceased loved ones is to have them bundled into a big truck and have them carted off. Sort of brings images of Hitler's days IYKWIM.

I am sure that the hospitals and funeral homes are doing the absolute best that they can. The numbers are just too great for any 'normalcy' in the after-death process.

 

[Reasonable & Just]

I think it's best you stay home. This thing is out of control in so many States.

I think you're totally right. We'll see what the damage is when I go cancel now. I never appreciated how important it is for courts to be open until all this disruption occurred. I hope Atlanta gets back on a good course.

 

[10ofRods]

Post-Covid Syndrome in children (London)

35 kids at one hospital is a significant number. 21 were diagnosed as in shock upon presentation in the hospital. That's shocking and I've never heard of the flu doing that. 7 required mechanical ventilation. 2 had to be placed in hyperbaric oxygen chambers.

All 35 children underwent chest X-ray due to fever, sepsis or features of multisystem inflammation. Nineteen X-rays were abnormal, the most common finding being that of bronchial wall thickening

Those changes in the bronchial wall deserve more study and may or may not be reversible.

Flu sometimes causes a febrile seizure in kids under 5, but there are rarely any lasting damages from febrile seizures. CoVid can cause seizures too, so in that way it's similar flu.

But the way it attacks epithelial cells/blood veins throughout the body is quite another thing, perhaps with very long term consequences - like most parents, I do not want my (adult) kids to get it - and I don't want my very healthy grandchildren to get it, either.

I don't want anyone to get CoVid.

 

[CharlestonGal]

I'll go along with your answer. I think this whole pandemic experience has made me trust people much less than I used to. MOO

This pandemic has shown me a side of many people I did not know existed. I have been blown away by the absolute self-absorption of some friends and family members. Blown away. I'm still trying to process the self-centered behavior I have seen.

 

[pocketaccent]

13 states now report coronavirus testing issues, in echo of early troubles

In California and Nebraska, some testing sites were forced to close down because of a shortage in testing kits, chemical reagents, and other supplies.

In Omaha, Nebraska, a county-supported testing site primarily serving a highly impacted Hispanic population -- which is already hard hit by the virus -- closed shop earlier this week because of a supply shortage.

Arizona and South Carolina reported slower turnaround times for test results from labs due to lack of capacity.

In New York, private labs now take up to a week to return test results due to an increased demand from the rest of the country after the federal government asks those labs to prioritize high-risk states.

Some hospital labs in New Jersey, too, reported they are starting to see a testing chemical shortage.

In Oregon, supply shortages with certain testing machines are slowing the volume of tests that can be done in at least nine hospitals, and one has stopped testing all together. A press secretary for Gov. Kate Brown said he is “concerned” that surges in the south and west will begin to hinder testing capabilities there, and spoke out against what he said was “lack of equal support” from the federal government in ensuring that all states have the ability to properly test.

A Michigan DHHS spokesperson said FEMA supplies “have not met the overwhelming demand” the state is “still working through supply shortages,” which have limited the number of tests that can be run per day and have caused some laboratories or medical providers to restrict the types of individuals eligible for testing.

Asked for comment on the obstacles states are reporting with testing, a spokesperson for Health and Human Services said, “HHS and FEMA [Federal Emergency Management Agency] send states COVID-19 testing supplies, namely, swabs and transport media -- to each state and territory based on what the state or territory has requested each month."

Today's new cases, 65,662, must be under-counted, then, since many states can't test anymore due to shortage. I hope the shortage of testing supplies did not happen deliberately to keep the reported cases down. Yeah, I've become distrustful. What a disaster.

 

[Bravo]

Epic disaster

 

[Tate123]

https://nypost.com/2020/07/10/covid-19-victims-had-extensive-blood-clots-doctor/

Autopsies found blood clots in “almost every organ” of coronavirus victims, according to a top New York City pathologist, who called the results “dramatic.”

 

[Bravo]

We all know the saying "When people show you who they really are, believe them"

 

[10ofRods]

I'll go along with your answer. I think this whole pandemic experience has made me trust people much less than I used to. MOO

Right? People I know who were already very cautious are now downright suspicious of others (especially of being attacked for wearing masks). Older people are noticing that old people are not immune to this kind of thing (or may even be targeted? depends on point of view, I guess).

I look around and wonder how many people (seen out my front window) are in some kind of state of anger, panic, anxiety, rage, etc. 32% have not been able to make their rent/mortgage.

What that means for individual humans and households it's just mind-boggling to me. And I spend a lot of time thinking about dystopian outcomes and where our species is headed.

At the same time, the heroic actions of the healthcare workers and the caring of so many people really also has to be taken into account. The generosity of the people of Vietnam toward that British patient who came close to needing a kidney transplant...the people who sent PPE to American hospitals as gifts from overseas...the gentle concern of our Canadian neighbors...

All of that helps keep me somewhere in the middle.

 

[Tate123]

This is incredibly sad to hear. The last thing we want for our deceased loved ones is to have them bundled into a big truck and have them carted off. Sort of brings images of Hitler's days IYKWIM.

I am sure that the hospitals and funeral homes are doing the absolute best that they can. The numbers are just too great for any 'normalcy' in the after-death process.

In NYC there were many of these trailers. It was unbearable to see and the reason I think we have more compliance with mask wearing. That was a stark reality.

 

[CharlestonGal]

More pleas and threats by TX governor. Pointless posturing, IMO. His people know he won't actually do it.

Gov. Greg Abbott warns if spread of COVID-19 doesn’t slow, “the next step would have to be a lockdown”

In three live television appearances Friday afternoon, Abbott acknowledged that his mask order — that Texans in counties with more than 20 cases wear masks in public — was neither popular nor convenient, but said it was important for everyone to join in the effort. His plea to Texans comes as nearly 80 Texas counties have opted out of the order order, while others are refusing to enforce it.

“It’s disappointing,” Abbott told CBS Tyler of government entities who defy his mandate.

“I realize that a murderer or rapist or robber is far more serious to concentrate on. However, I know this also: If we do not all join together and unite in this one cause for a short period of time of adopting the masks, it will lead to the necessity of having to close Texas back down,” he said. “That should be the last thing that any government wants.”

As of Thursday afternoon, 2,918 Texas had died of COVID-19. The state also reported nearly another 10,000 new cases of the disease.

 

[SouthAussie]

Our Victoria infections are rising quite dramatically. We are now approaching 300 new daily cases in that state with all of the testing that is going on. (Darn that testing, maybe we should stop it. )

Numbers are creeping up in our state of NSW as well ... just in low double digits at the moment. These two states did not close their state borders early on, while the rest of us did. Though they are also the two states that had to receive all of the incoming Aussies returning home.

So sad that we now have community transmission.

A Member of Parliament, and a pediatrician, are both featuring on morning TV today to demonstrate how to wear a mask correctly.



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