Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #68

[margarita25]

Ah ya, Dr Tedros and Dr Ryan are committed and passionate.
Situation is frustrating enough to bring anyone to tears.

Again, words can not even to begin to express my respect and gratitude for these two men on all levels.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

IANAD, but imo, some eople’s tests may come back negative when they have in fact had covid, JMO MOO.

My employer made it available for all staff to take on a volunteer basis. I participated to help give them the data they need to study further. The studies will help for the purposes of epidemiologic or prevalent studies and potentially to facilitate contact tracing. Additionally, antibody tests are necessary for identification of potential convalescent plasma donors and will be essential to evaluate the efficacy of candidate vaccines as they enter clinical trials.

 

[Reasonable & Just]

omg, in one of the news broadcasts, they were discussing exactly how much money schools will need for sanitizer, custodial crew, etc. It was astronomical. Some schools already suffer from budget challenges as it is. I can’t remember the figure, or which broadcast it was, but it was insane.

So poor, sick areas get poorer and sicker. We all pay taxes. Those $$$ should be coming back to support us.

For me, it's more about what happens if it happens to you. Or it if happens to me.

We have only about 15-16,000 murders in the US each year (that we know of) and yet, many of us are here on WS because we think that's too many.

I will probably never get many diseases - for example, I'm out of the running for Diabetes Type 1 - but I still care, even though it's a very small percentage of the world's population.

Here, though, we have a disease that's transmitted person-to-person and is extremely contagious. Even asymptomatic people may have longterm consequences. Almost everyone with a moderate to severe case will have longterm consequences. 3% will die.

It accounts for more planetary deaths than homicide or suicide.

Most people in the world do not get murdered - or die by any one disease. But, just as some of us try to avoid getting murdered or we accept that we have to get help for depression, some of us are going to do what we can to avoid CoVid - for ourselves, our families, friends, students, neighbors and online communities.

For me, I simply do not consciously take a risk where I have a 3 % chance of dying (that's just going by sex and age - that's true for all 60-somethings; if you're a 70-something, it may be higher and at 80 it goes up to 5% or more - and so on).

I prefer to avoid being a crime victim, and I prefer to avoid having CoVid. We have entire systems in place (very expensive ones) to try and corral and stop those 15-16,000 people a year from being murdered.

And now, 138,000 are dead in the US from CoVid - in one-third of a year. I see it the same way as I see a spree killer on the loose.

Very, very well said.

And how said is it that I saw the annual number of murders and was surprised at how low it is - honestly, I would have guessed in the hundreds of thousands, so I appreciate the perspective. And now it's just that much more depressing to see how many of us have died in a matter of months.

But...our government needs to step up with ideas and a proper use of our tax dollars. There is no reason for our nation's economy to die, too.

 

[margarita25]

My employer made it available for all staff to take on a volunteer basis. I participated to help give them the data they need to study further. The studies will help for the purposes of epidemiologic or prevalent studies and potentially to facilitate contact tracing. Additionally, antibody tests are necessary for identification of potential convalescent plasma donors and will be essential to evaluate the efficacy of candidate vaccines as they enter clinical trials.

Awesome!!

 

[10ofRods]

2,000 more contracted nurses coming to Florida to help with coronavirus spike, DeSantis says | WFLA

Gov. Ron DeSantis announced an additional 2,000 contracted nurses will be spread throughout the state to help combat the virus.

The governor had previously announced that 100 contract nurses would already be coming to the Tampa Bay area.

This is so important - as it's the CoVid-experienced nurses who are really turning the tide in places where hospitals are overrun. Lots of various drug interactions and symptoms (even though the drugs are mostly standard ones - the severity of the illness and possible side effects take clinical experience to understand).

At the hospital closest to me, only 7 staffed ICU beds are left tonight. It's weird to think about. The two next closest are similarly impacted, but fortunately, there's still quite a bit of surge capacity in the general region.

But it's sobering to think how thin the healthcare protection actually is.

 

[Tadpole12]

Re: Smoking reefer on the boardwalk

Can Secondhand Smoke Spread Coronavirus And Other COVID-19 Questions

"The virus doesn't necessarily hitch a ride on smoke, but whenever someone smokes or vapes, they're breathing out respiratory droplets. So if you're near someone who is smoking and you can smell the smoke ..."

Really?

 

[margarita25]

My employer made it available for all staff to take on a volunteer basis. I participated to help give them the data they need to study further. The studies will help for the purposes of epidemiologic or prevalent studies and potentially to facilitate contact tracing. Additionally, antibody tests are necessary for identification of potential convalescent plasma donors and will be essential to evaluate the efficacy of candidate vaccines as they enter clinical trials.

This is super cool, Tippy. Thank you for participating. Any and all data is so helpful going forward, and as we know we are all learning as we speak.

 

[ArianeEmory]

New York To Require Contact Info From Air Travelers From States That Must Quarantine

https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article244183702.html

Drone video shows crowded house party where at least 5 tested positive for COVID-19

 

[Tippy Lynn]

This is super cool, Tippy. Thank you for participating. Any and all data is so helpful going forward, and as we know we are all learning as we speak.

We all need to do our part no matter how
big or small. It’s the least I could do.

 

[margarita25]

First Covid death in Brazil 'earlier than thought'
May 12

“They say molecular tests suggest one patient who died in Rio de Janeiro between 19 and 25 January had Covid-19.”

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“The scientists also say their research suggests the virus was being spread from person to person in Brazil in early February - weeks before the country's popular carnival street parties kicked off.“

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“"Around the world we have seen that the warnings we put out right from the start, very, very early on, were not seen as warnings about a very serious, lethal disease," WHO spokeswoman Margaret Harris said about the high number of cases in Brazil and the US. “

 

[zecats]

My employer made it available for all staff to take on a volunteer basis. I participated to help give them the data they need to study further. The studies will help for the purposes of epidemiologic or prevalent studies and potentially to facilitate contact tracing. Additionally, antibody tests are necessary for identification of potential convalescent plasma donors and will be essential to evaluate the efficacy of candidate vaccines as they enter clinical trials.

And then it may not matter, if immunity goes away altogether. I was thinking of getting tested for antibodies, as I cared for DH when he was ill. Now I wonder if either of us would register any at all since it's been 3 months.

Chinese study: Antibodies in COVID-19 patients fade quickly

"A new study from China showed that antibodies faded quickly in both asymptomatic and symptomatic COVID-19 patients during convalescence, raising questions about whether the illness leads to any lasting immunity to the virus afterward.

The study, which focused on 37 asymptomatic and 37 symptomatic patients, showed that more than 90% of both groups showed steep declines in levels of SARS-COV-2–specific immunoglobulin G (IgG) antibodies within 2 to 3 months after onset of infection, according to a report published yesterday in Nature Medicine. Further, 40% of the asymptomatic group tested negative for IgG antibodies 8 weeks after they were released from isolation.

The authors said the findings suggest that it could be risky to assume that recovered patients are immune to reinfection, which may have implications for how long to maintain physical distancing restrictions."

 

[margarita25]

Looking at Oregon:

US coronavirus: California, New Mexico and Oregon put new restrictions on indoor activities - CNN
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Oregon And West Virginia Will Shrink Social Gatherings To Combat COVID-19

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Oregon’s COVID-19 death toll up to 237, case count hits 12,438

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Live Updates: Oregon Expands Mask Requirement To Outdoor Spaces

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Two COVID-19 Outbreaks Reported In Oregon | KXL

 

[ArianeEmory]

“They say molecular tests suggest one patient who died in Rio de Janeiro between 19 and 25 January had Covid-19.”

I remember this at the time. I could swear that it was determined a few days later that there had been a simple error on the woman’s death certificate (or something like that). I was also talking with someone on Reddit who was from BR and was translating some local news. But of course the news in general is such a mess now I can’t find any “proof” of what I remember reading.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

And then it may not matter, if immunity goes away altogether. I was thinking of getting tested for antibodies, as I cared for DH when he was ill. Now I wonder if either of us would register any at all since it's been 3 months.

Chinese study: Antibodies in COVID-19 patients fade quickly

"A new study from China showed that antibodies faded quickly in both asymptomatic and symptomatic COVID-19 patients during convalescence, raising questions about whether the illness leads to any lasting immunity to the virus afterward.

The study, which focused on 37 asymptomatic and 37 symptomatic patients, showed that more than 90% of both groups showed steep declines in levels of SARS-COV-2–specific immunoglobulin G (IgG) antibodies within 2 to 3 months after onset of infection, according to a report published yesterday in Nature Medicine. Further, 40% of the asymptomatic group tested negative for IgG antibodies 8 weeks after they were released from isolation.

The authors said the findings suggest that it could be risky to assume that recovered patients are immune to reinfection, which may have implications for how long to maintain physical distancing restrictions."

Even if you test positive for antibodies it doesn’t mean you can’t get COVID-19. Until more is known, you will still need to follow the recommendations by the CDC.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

The ironic thing about this point of view is that if CA had not taken these measures and your business had stayed wide open, you and/or your husband may have lost your lives before losing your business - in which case, losing your business would not matter much.

For some their business is everything to them and it is their life. Unless you walk in their shoes it’s not for anyone else to say.
jmo

 

[zecats]

Even if you test positive for antibodies it doesn’t mean you can’t get COVID-19. Until more is known, you will still need to follow the recommendations by the CDC.

Agree. That was the point I hoped I was making.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

For some their business is everything to them and it is their life. Unless you walk in their shoes it’s not for anyone else to say.
jmo

I wasn’t criticizing her, but pointing out that this is the conundrum. In states that remained wide open, many, many business owners had to make hard decisions. And it literally is a life or death decision.

 

[ZoriahNZ]

Very informative COVID-19 response assessment from world renowned doctor Larry Brilliant. He's the epidemiologist who helped eradicate smallpox in the 1970s.

Larry Brilliant on How Well We Are Fighting Covid-19

 

[ArianeEmory]

Hawaii extends 14-day quarantine another month, citing mainland outbreaks

 

[Tippy Lynn]

I wasn’t criticizing her, but pointing out that this is the conundrum. In states that remained wide open, many, many business owners had to make hard decisions. And it literally is a life or death decision.

I feel so bad for everyone who has been effected so harshly. There are too many tragedies surrounding this vicious monster.