Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #69

[tresir2012]

I've been away from the thread and not following as will as before.

Where is this information you show is collected through HHS available to look at by us? Do you or does anyone have a link?

Thanks!

CDC have a section for hospitalizations in their database but it has never worked for me. But you can try it.

COVIDView, Key Updates for Week 27

 

[margarita25]

A Jacksonville city official involved in the planning said that TIAA Bank Field, where the Jaguars play, is connected to Daily's Place Amphitheater. They were told in a planning meeting late Wednesday that they plan to use the amphitheater, in addition to a very large outdoor attached space, which is now the tented Jaguar practice field.

"They are looking for as many big tents as possible because it can rain every day," the official said.

"All bets are off if there's a hurricane."

I saw a video where the Jaguars said they are going to open with 25% capacity, iirc, moo.

Eta:
Jacksonville Jaguars will limit attendance to 25% capacity

 

[tresir2012]

There is no public access to the data on TeleTracking or HHS. Trust me, I spent the better part of yesterday trying.

I guess for now we'll have to rely on JH, WorldOmeters and WorldInData type sites that pull data directly from county and state public health sites and compile them into national databases for us. jmo

That is correct but 1,000 CDC staff can access it for whatever they need. Link upthread. And link to CDC figures just posted. Worldometers and JHU would have to access state and county level info for their county level stats.

 

[SouthAussie]

Geez, remember when grandma said 'what is the world coming to?'


Seems that things are getting out of hand in Tokyo ...

Tokyo will lift its alert level for coronavirus infections to the highest of four levels on Wednesday, the Asahi newspaper reported, after a recent spike in cases to record levels in the Japanese capital.

Daily coronavirus cases exceeded 200 in four of the last six days, touching an all-time high of 243 cases last Friday as testing among workers in the metropolis's red-light districts turned up infections among young people in their 20s and 30s.
The highest alert level suggests that "coronavirus infections are likely spreading", the Asahi said.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-...d-for-coronavirus-deaths-20200715-p55c2v.html


And in the Phillipines ...

Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte is enforcing partial coronavirus restrictions in the capital for another two weeks, and warned that stricter curbs would be reinstated if the rise in new cases and deaths does not slow down.

The Philippines this week recorded south-east Asia's biggest daily jump in coronavirus deaths and saw hospital occupancy grow sharply, after a tripling of infections since a tough lockdown was eased on June 1 to allow more movement and commerce.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/coronavirus-resurgence-forces-countries-to-reimpose-restrictions-20200716-p55cgt.html

 

[rosemadderlake]

I'm beginning to see the Governors reasoning.

Our Virginia governor issued a mask mandate to be enforced by each business. He instructs each business to council and educate the customer, otherwise ask them to leave the property and have charged with trespassing. He now has teams of inspectors going out to restaurants only and threatening to revoke business licenses, of folks don't wear a mask but not retail stores. Our beaches where the massive increases are accusing are wide open for business and packed.

The problem, it's a mandate without law. Local police are stating they can't enforce without a law or statue to charge the person under for not having a mask. Businesses are concerned with charging folks for trespassing on their property and threats of being sued for discrimination and negative media ruining their business.

Mask mandates need to become law, enforceable by LE or its just a point of argument for enforcement. It takes the State legislature to pass a law and most of those folks aren't interested in gathering for assembly anytime soon.

It's just a mess....Moo.

Link to presser...Northam announces stronger enforcement of COVID-19 guidelines at businesses

Your post, Simply Southern, outlines really well the dynamics happening in a lot of states, right now.

I saw an interview with a sheriff in an Ohio county and he was refusing to be the “Mask Police”. I don’t blame him one bit. Who wants to police that?

There is guidance, mandates, and the law.

We got hit so hard in NJ and NY that the sheer terror of the situation made people really pay attention and listen to the guidance. Also, I’m going to say consistent clear messaging is far more effective than ordering mandates. Our leaders here practice what they preach, too.

Yes, we’ve had to roll back some rules at the shore but they are not unreasonable. Mask up on the crowded boardwalk and shops, but social distance on the beach, no mask required. People can live with that.

The southern states didn’t have a wave that brought them to such a standstill of fear in March. And I think it’s been hard to accept where some of these states are headed, now. Leadership has been varied, confusing, political, inconsistent, and not methodical in educating the public on why this is so important. “To do the right thing.”

When I go into my small food marts and I see the same peeps working there now, as back in March, we now ask how’s everyone doing? Is your family ok? And a big thumbs up when the answer is yes! All through our masks. Same with the delivery people. A simple how are you holding up? Stay safe. I appreciate you.

This pandemic has put into perspective some things. How small businesses are surviving, how people have had jobs for years, how we are now connected by hope. And you can’t mandate that. I know our shared goal here in the northeast is we don’t want to go “back there” to March and April, again. But we also have a shared confidence that we all did something pretty amazing as a collective group.

I feel for our states who are suffering so. The waters are murky, not clear. Open up, close down, mask up in this state but not that one... And no one can keep up with it. Very difficult.

 

[margarita25]

yeah that's where i live. maybe the video was from the CBD

i'll take a photo next time im out for you and post it here

because as sad and frustrating as it is i can assure you a majority are not wearing masks down here, probably because its not mandated

if you check some local forums like WP you'll see in their covid vic thread the people in there are saying the same thing, they don't see a lot of masks either

Hopefully this improves...
I’m surprised what’s happening in the US hasn’t scared them silly...

 

[JerseyGirl]

Florida Lawmaker Pushes Back Against State's 'Epicenter' Status After Calling Masks 'Annoying'

When asked if he wears a face mask to the grocery store, Florida State Representative Anthony Sabatini replied "absolutely not" because he finds them "annoying" and "hard to breathe" in.

He said that while he is accepting of voluntary or incentivized mask wearing, he does not think citizens should be required by the law to don a face mask.

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has refused to issue a statewide face mask order despite the state's growing status as a coronavirus hot spot. The state currently holds the record for the highest single-day total of confirmed cases in the country.

In an interview, Sabatini said that calling Florida an "epicenter" is "a false assessment entirely." "I don't even know what you mean by 'epicenter.' The whole world is dealing with this issue right now. There's going to be a lot of cases in places of high populations," the lawmaker added.

Local officials, however, have taken it upon themselves to implement mandates across 58 cities and 19 counties in the state.

Sabatini went on to say that he also thinks the economy should be "100 percent open."

Sabatini has been involved in several lawsuits against mandatory masks in Orange, Leon, Hillsborough, and St. Augustine counties and has continued to publicly refer to mask advocates as "mask-Nazis."

 

[SouthAussie]

Hopefully this improves...
I’m surprised what’s happening in the US hasn’t scared them silly...

It is a strange dynamic that I am hearing. The other Aussie states are so afraid of the virus that we won't open our borders to Victoria or New South Wales. The NSW Premier was asking Queensland to open its border to them for a while. She gave up because the Qld Premier kept saying no.

Then once the Qld Premier felt things were safer in NSW, she opened the border to NSW.

 

[margarita25]

Geez, remember when grandma said 'what is the world coming to?'


Seems that things are getting out of hand in Tokyo ...

Tokyo will lift its alert level for coronavirus infections to the highest of four levels on Wednesday, the Asahi newspaper reported, after a recent spike in cases to record levels in the Japanese capital.

Daily coronavirus cases exceeded 200 in four of the last six days, touching an all-time high of 243 cases last Friday as testing among workers in the metropolis's red-light districts turned up infections among young people in their 20s and 30s.
The highest alert level suggests that "coronavirus infections are likely spreading", the Asahi said.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-...d-for-coronavirus-deaths-20200715-p55c2v.html


And in the Phillipines ...

Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte is enforcing partial coronavirus restrictions in the capital for another two weeks, and warned that stricter curbs would be reinstated if the rise in new cases and deaths does not slow down.

The Philippines this week recorded south-east Asia's biggest daily jump in coronavirus deaths and saw hospital occupancy grow sharply, after a tripling of infections since a tough lockdown was eased on June 1 to allow more movement and commerce.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/coronavirus-resurgence-forces-countries-to-reimpose-restrictions-20200716-p55cgt.html

Watch Japan ZAP this, moo. They’ll douse this fire, watch. They’ll at least try their damnest. I look forward to reading about this latest Japan situation more. They have been one of the most successful countries to date. Their tracing, etc. is very strong. I was very worried in the beginning about Japan, hence my initial “Japan file”, but they really have been doing exceptionally well, Doc T said not too long ago.

 

[Simply Southern]

There is no public access to the data on TeleTracking or HHS. Trust me, I spent the better part of yesterday trying.

I guess for now we'll have to rely on JH, WorldOmeters and WorldInData type sites that pull data directly from county and state public health sites and compile them into national databases for us. jmo

All the data we have been privy to will still be available. Its the NEW data required by HHS that we may not see, which we did not see before.

What data are you seeking or concerned will not be made public? Because the data HHS is requesting is NEW information not previously reported. Is all related in inpatient hospitalizations. The uproar is over the new software Teletracking, but this is currently in use by most hospitals and is very efficient in capturing data. Its going to be much easier for hospitals to report.


This is the information being reported. This is data needed to determine what is needed and where, to better plan and increase response time. This is a good thing, it tracks Remdesivir daily by hospital.

• Previous day's new adult admissions for confirmed COVID-19
• Previous day's new adult admissions for suspected COVID-19
• Total adults hospitalized for COVID - suspected and confirmed
• Total hospitalized for COVID - confirmed only
• Total adults in ICU with COVID - suspected and confirmed
• Total adults in ICU with COVID - confirmed
• Remdesivir doses (field will be available by July 15)

<snipped>

Going forward, HHS will pull a week’s worth of data each Wednesday to inform its remdesivir distribution efforts. HHS states that remdesivir distributions will not be calculated correctly if data from each day are not reported. In addition, HHS reiterates that it will no longer ask for one-time requests for data to aid in the distribution of remdesivir or any other treatments or supplies. This means that the daily reporting is the only mechanism used for the distribution calculations.
HHS Asks Hospitals to Prioritize Certain Data Fields in COVID-19 Daily Reporting Starting Tomorrow, July 15 | AHA

Each hospital has a choice they can continue to report to their state HD, if the state agrees to report. Most state computers are not set up to capture the new fields required and would take a major overall to add new fields.

HHS Makes Significant Changes to COVID-19 Daily Data Reporting Process | AHA

Reporting data to their state health departments, provided that their states have assumed responsibility for reporting hospital data to HHS. Such states have written authorization from their Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response (ASPR) regional administrator that they are assuming data reporting responsibilities. In turn, states should provide hospitals with written notification they are submitting data to HHS on their behalf.

The AHA strongly urges all hospitals to review the announcement and report the data to HHS as requested. HHS stressed in the announcement the importance of reporting the requested data on a daily basis to inform the Administration’s ongoing response to the pandemic, including the allocation of supplies, treatments and other resources. In addition, the agency notes it will no longer ask for one-time requests for data to aid in the distribution of remdesivir or any other treatments or supplies. This means that the daily reporting is the only mechanism used for the distribution calculations

 

[margarita25]

Developing Forward Looking Software at CDC | CDC

 

[weepingangel]

Wow

Georgia Governor Brian Kemp Bans Cities, Counties from Requiring Masks

Georgia Governor Brian Kemp issued an executive order overruling mask mandates put in place by local governments in the state to mitigate the spread of coronavirus, calling such rules “unenforceable.”

Kemp’s order, which extended the state’s COVID-19 restrictions through July 31, prohibits local municipalities from enforcing mandatory mask orders that are more restrictive than his statewide order that only encourages face coverings, effectively voiding orders issued by at least 15 local governments across the state.

 

[margarita25]

Florida Lawmaker Pushes Back Against State's 'Epicenter' Status After Calling Masks 'Annoying'

When asked if he wears a face mask to the grocery store, Florida State Representative Anthony Sabatini replied "absolutely not" because he finds them "annoying" and "hard to breathe" in.

He said that while he is accepting of voluntary or incentivized mask wearing, he does not think citizens should be required by the law to don a face mask.

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has refused to issue a statewide face mask order despite the state's growing status as a coronavirus hot spot. The state currently holds the record for the highest single-day total of confirmed cases in the country.

In an interview, Sabatini said that calling Florida an "epicenter" is "a false assessment entirely." "I don't even know what you mean by 'epicenter.' The whole world is dealing with this issue right now. There's going to be a lot of cases in places of high populations," the lawmaker added.

Local officials, however, have taken it upon themselves to implement mandates across 58 cities and 19 counties in the state.

Sabatini went on to say that he also thinks the economy should be "100 percent open."

Sabatini has been involved in several lawsuits against mandatory masks in Orange, Leon, Hillsborough, and St. Augustine counties and has continued to publicly refer to mask advocates as "mask-Nazis."

SMDH / bringing this forward again for reference:

Miami now 'epicenter' of coronavirus pandemic, top doctor says

“Florida International University epidemiologist Dr. Aileen Marty called the region's situation "extremely grave." She says the public is not taking the virus seriously enough, ignoring rules on large gatherings, social distancing and wearing masks in public places.

Dr. Lilian Abbo is the chief for infection prevention at Jackson Health System. She described nurses and doctors working around the clock and some of them getting sick.

She added: "Miami is now the epicenter of the pandemic. What we were seeing in Wuhan six months ago, now we are there."”

 

[SouthAussie]

<RSBM>

She added: "Miami is now the epicenter of the pandemic. What we were seeing in Wuhan six months ago, now we are there."”

Those are very strong and very scary words.

 

[155etta]

Well I think a lot of doctors and nurses will disagree with you while they are working their butts off for us like they did in the UK, Europe, NY and NJ and now other states. We need to look at the positives, albeit 45k (and 140k) deaths are unacceptable but there will be a UK enquiry so we find out the scandal of the pandemic. (The care home deaths IMO).

PM promises an independent coronavirus inquiry

I wasn't talking about the doctors, nurses, and scientists. I was talking about the politicians which is what your post was about. MOO.

 

[SouthAussie]

All the data we have been privy to will still be available. Its the NEW data required by HHS that we may not see, which we did not see before.

What data are you seeking or concerned will not be made public? Because the data HHS is requesting is NEW information not previously reported. Is all related in inpatient hospitalizations. The uproar is over the new software Teletracking, but this is currently in use by most hospitals and is very efficient in capturing data. Its going to be much easier for hospitals to report.


This is the information being reported. This is data needed to determine what is needed and where, to better plan and increase response time. This is a good thing, it tracks Remdesivir daily by hospital.

• Previous day's new adult admissions for confirmed COVID-19
• Previous day's new adult admissions for suspected COVID-19
• Total adults hospitalized for COVID - suspected and confirmed
• Total hospitalized for COVID - confirmed only
• Total adults in ICU with COVID - suspected and confirmed
• Total adults in ICU with COVID - confirmed
• Remdesivir doses (field will be available by July 15)

<snipped>

Going forward, HHS will pull a week’s worth of data each Wednesday to inform its remdesivir distribution efforts. HHS states that remdesivir distributions will not be calculated correctly if data from each day are not reported. In addition, HHS reiterates that it will no longer ask for one-time requests for data to aid in the distribution of remdesivir or any other treatments or supplies. This means that the daily reporting is the only mechanism used for the distribution calculations.
HHS Asks Hospitals to Prioritize Certain Data Fields in COVID-19 Daily Reporting Starting Tomorrow, July 15 | AHA

Each hospital has a choice they can continue to report to their state HD, if the state agrees to report. Most state computers are not set up to capture the new fields required and would take a major overall to add new fields.

HHS Makes Significant Changes to COVID-19 Daily Data Reporting Process | AHA

Reporting data to their state health departments, provided that their states have assumed responsibility for reporting hospital data to HHS. Such states have written authorization from their Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response (ASPR) regional administrator that they are assuming data reporting responsibilities. In turn, states should provide hospitals with written notification they are submitting data to HHS on their behalf.

The AHA strongly urges all hospitals to review the announcement and report the data to HHS as requested. HHS stressed in the announcement the importance of reporting the requested data on a daily basis to inform the Administration’s ongoing response to the pandemic, including the allocation of supplies, treatments and other resources. In addition, the agency notes it will no longer ask for one-time requests for data to aid in the distribution of remdesivir or any other treatments or supplies. This means that the daily reporting is the only mechanism used for the distribution calculations

I think some are afraid that the complete statistics won't be available. That some areas statistics may get lost in the confusion, or may be set aside, and might not be entered into the database.

Eg:
"See, your death rates are drastically dropping, your new cases are subsiding, now is definitely the time to send your children back to school."

imo

 

[margarita25]

Coronavirus in Florida: Recent surge in COVID-19 cases has South Florida hospitals struggling to keep up

“The Jackson Health System has seen a 226 percent increase in coronavirus hospitalizations from June 14 to July 14th.

If you ask Carlos Migoya, who runs Jackson Health, he thinks there is a behavioral issue in the community.

"I think the issue is we have a lot of aggressive non-compliant people," Migoya said. "People that do not believe masking is the right thing to do."

Migoya and his staff are paying the price for non compliance.

“One of the issues we have today is the lack of credibility,” he said. “People don’t believe the message we are telling them, and I don’t understand it, but that is exactly what is happening.””

[...]

Right now, our ICU capacity is 180 percent," said Leah Carpenter, CEO of Memorial West. "We are worried about the future.“

—-

Coronavirus: Florida reports 13,965 cases and 156 new deaths, breaking record

“Florida reported 13,965 more cases of COVID-19 on Thursday along with 156 new resident deaths, the highest death toll the state has announced in a single day since the start of the pandemic.”

 

[oviedo]

Home | Daily Mail Online
Data map shows 45% of US counties are seeing uncontrollable spread of COVID-19 outbreaks - as latest models predict 224,000 Americans will be dead by November 1st

 

[CharlestonGal]

Florida Lawmaker Pushes Back Against State's 'Epicenter' Status After Calling Masks 'Annoying'

When asked if he wears a face mask to the grocery store, Florida State Representative Anthony Sabatini replied "absolutely not" because he finds them "annoying" and "hard to breathe" in.

He said that while he is accepting of voluntary or incentivized mask wearing, he does not think citizens should be required by the law to don a face mask.

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has refused to issue a statewide face mask order despite the state's growing status as a coronavirus hot spot. The state currently holds the record for the highest single-day total of confirmed cases in the country.

In an interview, Sabatini said that calling Florida an "epicenter" is "a false assessment entirely." "I don't even know what you mean by 'epicenter.' The whole world is dealing with this issue right now. There's going to be a lot of cases in places of high populations," the lawmaker added.

Local officials, however, have taken it upon themselves to implement mandates across 58 cities and 19 counties in the state.

Sabatini went on to say that he also thinks the economy should be "100 percent open."

Sabatini has been involved in several lawsuits against mandatory masks in Orange, Leon, Hillsborough, and St. Augustine counties and has continued to publicly refer to mask advocates as "mask-Nazis."

I can't take seriously anyone who compares mask advocates to Nazis. He should be shamed out of existence and happy to have never had to face actual Nazis.

Disgusting.

 

[oviedo]

I saw a video where the Jaguars said they are going to open with 25% capacity, iirc, moo.

Eta:
Jacksonville Jaguars will limit attendance to 25% capacity

I heard on the radio this am that NASCAR held a race-
Chase Elliott lands first NASCAR All-Star Race victory | NASCAR
Elliott’s win was hugely popular even to the limited number of fans who were allowed to attend the race in person, and they celebrated by showering the 24-year-old with cheers.
--
I heard on the radio it was 30,000 fans??? But haven't seen that number in MSM