Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #70

[CSIDreamer]

Unless testing is coordinated nationally by the Federal Government (as it should be but isn't), i don't see the horrible testing situation changing. The United States of America is conducting itself like a third world country. There is no getting around that. As you pointed out, if the testing situation remains as it is, we are in very very deep trouble.

I'm starting to wonder what happened to all the money states were provided for testing. Jmo

 

[MuddyTires]

Expert referenced by Orange County Board of Education
https://ocde.us/Board/Documents/2020 Agendas/Special Meeting Agenda 07.13.2020.pdf

Among these panel experts at the June 24, 2020 special board meeting, Dr. Mark McDonald, a psychiatrist who specializes in children and at-risk youth, may have summed it up best:

“Children are not dying from Covid-19. Children are not passing the disease on to adults. So the only question is, “Why are we even having this meeting tonight?” We’re meeting because we adults are afraid.

As parents, we will face many moments of anxiety: seeing our children off on their first day of kindergarten, their first day of camp, their first year of college. We may want to keep them home to protect them from the world, which can indeed be a frightening place. But let’s be clear, when we do that, we are not really protecting our children. We are only attempting to manage our own anxiety, and we do that at their expense. We are acting as negligent parents. We are harming our children. We are failing them.

We must agree to make decisions in the best interest of the children. If we do not – if, paralyzed by fear, we continue to act purely out of self-interest – we will ensure an entire generation of traumatized young adults, consigned to perpetual adolescence and residency in their parents’ garages, unable to move through life with independence, courage, and confidence. They deserve better — we owe it to them as parents.”

 

[JerseyGirl]

85 infants under age 1 tested positive for coronavirus in one Texas county

"We currently have 85 babies under the age of one year in Nueces County that have all tested positive for Covid-19," said Annette Rodriguez, director of public health for Corpus Christi Nueces County.

"These babies have not even had their first birthday yet. Please help us stop the spread of this disease."

 

[tresir2012]

Yes, I don't think that they want to send their children back to school in the middle of a raging pandemic (at least I hope it is the middle and not just somewhere in the beginning stages), just that some of them have little economic choice. And it seems many of them feel they don't have enough information to make a well-informed decision.

Tough predicament with little govt support (temporary rent/mortgage freezes, for example).

There is support though isn't there? If they work and file taxes I think they are eligible for a tax refund? The date to file was extended to July 15th I believe.

Your Money and Coronavirus: Resources for Financial Relief | U.S. Department of the Treasury

 

[JerseyGirl]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...7/coronavirus-live-updates-us/?outputType=amp

Costco began enforcing masks on May 4, but two months passed before other top retailers followed suit. Walmart, Inc. seemed to have triggered a corporate landslide this week with its announcement on Wednesday that masks would be required in its namesake stores and Sam’s Club locations.

Seven more of the largest brick-and-mortar retailers in the U.S. announced similar policies within two days: Kroger, CVS Health, Walgreens, Target, Albertsons Companies (which owns Safeway, Tom Thumb, and Acme, among other brands).

Lowe’s and Home Depot both announced mask requirements Friday.

 

[SouthAussie]

There is support though isn't there? If they work and file taxes I think they are eligible for a tax refund? The date to file was extended to July 15th I believe.

Your Money and Coronavirus: Resources for Financial Relief | U.S. Department of the Treasury

A tax refund is a refund of taxes that you have already paid ... because you paid too much in taxes that year. It is certainly not 'govt support'.

If you haven't paid any taxes, there is nothing to refund.

If you have paid too little in taxes, you have a tax bill to pay.

 

[tresir2012]

The education secretary said a couple of weeks ago that parents would be fined if children don’t go back to school, has that changed?

Penalty fines for missing school next term

Well health is a devolved issue and they certainly won't be fined in Wales. See link below. I doubt that they will in England either, again because it is a health issue and if you kept your child off for health reasons (either you or your child are vulnerable ) they would be justified IMO.

Schools increasing operations from 29 June: coronavirus | GOV.WALES

From the link re fines

"Will parents be fined if they do not send their child to school?
During this time parents won’t be fined for keeping their child / children at home. These children will continue to be supported by their schools in different ways."


I think what will happen is that schools may still provide some online lessons while working parents could send there kids to school, much like the essential workers kids have still been going to school. I don't think we have heard of any problems from those kids who have still been attending but I could have missed it.

Not an easy question or answer obviously. As with everything concerning this f virus.

 

[Reasonable & Just]

I'm starting to wonder what happened to all the money states were provided for testing. Jmo

Long story. It's tempting to think the states stole the money, but they actually needed more money to do this right. I am sure they are doing the best with what they have, though I'm also sure we'll hear about malfeasance, because we always do.

It starts with the delay our leadership had in responding to the whole thing, and many missteps along the way. Now we're trying to keep up with the demand as more and more people continue to get sick, but labs like Quest Diagnostics only have so much capacity, and sometimes have to ship them out. It would take another massive input of cash to make it better, I imagine.

In the meantime, people have to put off going back to work while they wait. Or they don't put it off, because they can't And we get more infections. Then more tests. Lather, rinse, repeat.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/23/coronavirus-federalfunding-testing/
Coronavirus: Federal government will end funding for 13 community-based Covid-19 test sites, most in Texas
COVID-19 test results could take 10 days. That delay defeats chances of stopping the virus
Here's why the US is behind in coronavirus testing - CNNPolitics

 

[JerseyGirl]

Young People with Coronavirus Expose Hundreds in Leland - Michigan

At least 16 young people in the Leland area have tested positive for coronavirus, and the Benzie-Leelanau District Health Department says they’ve exposed hundreds in the community. Health officials say the positive patients are 15 to 23 years old and the virus was spread through friend groups.

 

[Simply Southern]

I do NOT miss baseball this much-Everyone (players and staff) is Tested every two days? Eh

MLB coronavirus monitoring testing results: Only 6 positives from 10,548 samples taken in past week

Only five players and one staff member tested positive for coronavirus from the 10,548 monitoring samples taken the past week, Major League Baseball announced.

In all, 93 people (80 players and 13 staff members) have tested positive. That is 0.4% of the 21,701 tests taken thus far. Players and staff members are tested every two days.

10,548 test every other day. This kinda really get to me. We have people in desperate need of tests, rumors of test shortages in some areas and the MLB is going to suck up..... drum roll

158,220 per month !!!!

My community has a 12% positivity rate and 51k residents. We could test our entire community 3 times!!

I love baseball. Its big in the south, most everybody grows up playing ball.

Wonder how many test are needed per month for all sports to try to play? Millions ???

 

[tresir2012]

A tax refund is a refund of taxes that you have already paid ... because you paid too much in taxes that year. It is certainly not 'govt support'.

If you haven't paid any taxes, there is nothing to refund.

If you have paid too little in taxes, you have a tax bill to pay.

I understand how tax works thanks. They have had stimulus payments too though. So it is wrong to say there is no support. You were talking about workers I thought who had perhaps lost income from jobs?

From the link I posted.

"Most Americans will receive tax refunds this year, so file your tax return right away to receive yours. The tax payment and filing deadline has been extended until July 15, but you can file now and get your refund."

 

[Reasonable & Just]

My granddaughter is so much better today! The prednisolone made a huge difference!
Crisis averted. It was really scary. The before and after pics are amazing!
She is on the mend! Thank you for all your comments. Maybe, I'll sleep tonight!
I edited my avatar. This is my sweet grandbaby!
Moo

What a little cutie! I am so happy for you all

 

[JerseyGirl]

Texas 24-year-old hospitalized 79 days with coronavirus regrets not wearing mask

 

[JerseyGirl]

I understand how tax works thanks. They have had stimulus payments too though. So it is wrong to say there is no support. You were talking about workers I thought who had perhaps lost income from jobs?

Every American did not receive stimulus money and those that did receive it will be taxed on it when they file next year. $1,200 barely pays my monthly mortgage but does pay my health insurance for a month. The $1,200 for me offset the rise in grocery prices.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

RSBM The United States of America is conducting itself like a third world country. There is no getting around that. As you pointed out, if the testing situation remains as it is, we are in very very deep trouble.

But that's the catch, many of the third world countries are doing much better at tracking, tracing, testing than we are - in addition to other measures as they are familiar with the drill MOO.

The US stance MOO was just to keep numbers within hospital capacity in the beginning... expecting drugs and vaccine to come. They didn't try to put out embers, and now the fire is outta control in many areas and health depts etc are too stretched to do the needed 3 T's. In addition, the timing for us all on the same page has passed as there is not a cohesive effort within the states.

I think @margarita25 has made links to such many times here in the threads about how some countries considered "third world" have done better than the US. Not all... but many/significant number.

MOO

 

[Reasonable & Just]

Coronavirus now spreading faster in suburbs like Orange County than in L.A. County

 

[CSIDreamer]

A tax refund is a refund of taxes that you have already paid ... because you paid too much in taxes that year. It is certainly not 'govt support'.

If you haven't paid any taxes, there is nothing to refund.

If you have paid too little in taxes, you have a tax bill to pay.

In the US you can get more back than you paid in.

 

[Reasonable & Just]

I understand how tax works thanks. They have had stimulus payments too though. So it is wrong to say there is no support. You were talking about workers I thought who had perhaps lost income from jobs?

From the link I posted.

"Most Americans will receive tax refunds this year, so file your tax return right away to receive yours. The tax payment and filing deadline has been extended until July 15, but you can file now and get your refund."

If you are talking about the one-time payment of $1200 back in March, that was probably gone in many households by end of April, just for rent and food(JMO). The supplemental $600 unemployment will also be gone by the end of the month. More than 25 million Americans are set to lose the $600 unemployment boost next week

 

[tresir2012]

Every American did not receive stimulus money and those that did receive it will be taxed on it when they file next year. $1,200 barely pays my monthly mortgage but does pay my health insurance for a month.

The $1,200 for me offset the rise in grocery prices.

OP was stating there was no support. That was incorrect.

Also we were talking about parents who couldn't work due to schools not going back. Would they not receive stimulus payments if they couldn't work plus tax refund from prior year?

 

[jaxhellokitty]

Long story. It's tempting to think the states stole the money, but they actually needed more money to do this right. I am sure they are doing the best with what they have, though I'm also sure we'll hear about malfeasance, because we always do.

It starts with the delay our leadership had in responding to the whole thing, and many missteps along the way. Now we're trying to keep up with the demand as more and more people continue to get sick, but labs like Quest Diagnostics only have so much capacity, and sometimes have to ship them out. It would take another massive input of cash to make it better, I imagine.

In the meantime, people have to put off going back to work while they wait. Or they don't put it off, because they can't And we get more infections. Then more tests. Lather, rinse, repeat.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/23/coronavirus-federalfunding-testing/
Coronavirus: Federal government will end funding for 13 community-based Covid-19 test sites, most in Texas
COVID-19 test results could take 10 days. That delay defeats chances of stopping the virus
Here's why the US is behind in coronavirus testing - CNNPolitics

Yes, FLORIDA HAS stolen more than 21 MILLION dollars from us poor Floridians that are entitled for unemployment but FL UE REFUSES to pay out. We are due OVER 14 THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!!! SO if they sold this money, I don't put it pass FL to steal <modsnip> Virus $$