Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #71

[Tillicum]

Ohio county fair tied to 22 coronavirus cases, with more fairs still to come — NBC News

“At least 22 cases of coronavirus were tied to an Ohio county fair at the end of last month, a cautionary tale as more county fairs are scheduled to continue amid the pandemic.

A nine-page report from Pickaway County Public Health found a lack of enforcement on safety measures to prevent the disease despite a “very thorough and extensive” planning process on guidelines. At least 19 attendees contracted the virus and another three had the virus passed onto them by a family member.”

Our county is having their fair. Major mistake IMO. People coming from all over for the horse races. We will not be going.

 

[margarita25]

He battled Covid-19 for 128 days. This is what he wants you to know

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[ilovewings]

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Lateral thinkers are very often in the minority.

In my hypothetical world, before boarding a plane, going into a restaurant, perhaps other feasible places, you pass a paper test at the door. With the venue having been sprayed with a long lasting viral shield at regular intervals. Venue prices having been adjusted to allow for this extra nominal expense.

In all other public situations you wear a mask and socially distance. Until/if enough other safe methods are developed. We are not in 1918 any more. We should be able to do better, 100 years later.

Eventually reducing community transmission to an amount that can be suppressed.

I have felt for quite some time that we have not advanced much since 1918 and it is very sad and very tragic

 

[Tadpole12]

He battled Covid-19 for 128 days. This is what he wants you to know

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Ah, right on Miracle Larry!

ETA that was so beautiful,
Great interview.

 

[tresir2012]

Just catching up and noticed the following -

Today at 9:25 am, page #14, post #277 - a link to article dated 22 Jul stating Florida cases were less that 10,000 cases for two consecutive days. Seems to mean Tues 21 Jul and Mon 20 Jul.

This post is then quoted on page 15, post #281. The poster links the same publication, dated 22 Jul (updated from 13 Jul) and the poster surmises that Florida cases seem to have peaked for now.

If this were true, it would be breaking news everywhere. But it's not.

Luckily on Page #15, post #295 correct info is posted. More than 10,000 new cases and record number of deaths.

The news and stats can't be both - rising numbers and flattening curve. Toying with this info is disingenuous imo - if one sees breaking news, surely a responsible poster would double check with another publication before bringing it here?

Jmo.

If you read the article you will understand the discrepancy. Some positive tests are being double counted according to that specific source.

 

[LadyL]

Wildlife Trade Spreads Coronaviruses as Animals Get to Market

 

[gngr~snap]

Worldometer has us at 15,639,360 right now. When do you think we'll pass 16 million?

Friday 2 pm? EST
(or sooner)
YIKES!
Moo

 

[SouthAussie]

I have felt for quite some time that we have not advanced much since 1918 and it is very sad and very tragic

Yes. Mobile phones, satellites, fast world wide internet, cosmetic surgery, laser surgery, prosthesis, flights across the entire world in just 9 hours .... and so much more. And yet we are not advancing past masks and social distancing?

The scientists are doing it for us. Why are we not implementing the things that are passing their intense scrutiny and tests?

 

[10ofRods]

I don't know about anyone else, but I am ready for some other measures to be included in our arsenal ... so that semi-normal life can somewhat resume.

There are many products being developed, with some of them passing scientific scrutiny, that would allow a less restrictive life for all.

The Zoono product I mentioned above is one of these products. Another is the paper tests that marguerita brought to this forum.

We seem stuck in this cycle of 'gold standard' testing, isolation, closures ... when rapidly developing technology is trying to tell us there are some alternatives that can be included. imo

Part of that is due to the lack of true teamwork between medical doctors and scientists/public health authorities on the one hand - and the civil/political structure of the society needing the vaccine or treatment.

Can independent states or counties depart from FDA-approved treatments? (They usually don't). Can the FDA act more quickly (it can, but usually only when dealing with large pharma).

How long does it take for smaller treatments to get approved and to market? Too long. What happened to the heparin nasal spray? Or the other nasally mediated treatments? What about those new anti-virals?

I think a lot of doctors are focused on the relatively more rare cases where people go from mild or no symptoms to death so quickly (so looking for biomarkers, running lots of tests, trying to figure out if the tests they have are good enough, that kind of basic treatment strategy). Doctors and nurses are really overwhelmed. They can't be the ones who go to bat for the mechanics of new treatments - that's the job of hospital administrators and public health officials (all the way up to the federal level, namely CDC and FDA, better not say more).

 

[SoCalDavidS]

Per Worldometers - Day 103 - New Cases=69,000 - Deaths=1,150

 

[SouthAussie]

Part of that is due to the lack of true teamwork between medical doctors and scientists/public health authorities on the one hand - and the civil/political structure of the society needing the vaccine or treatment.

Can independent states or counties depart from FDA-approved treatments? (They usually don't). Can the FDA act more quickly (it can, but usually only when dealing with large pharma).

How long does it take for smaller treatments to get approved and to market? Too long. What happened to the heparin nasal spray? Or the other nasally mediated treatments? What about those new anti-virals?

I think a lot of doctors are focused on the relatively more rare cases where people go from mild or no symptoms to death so quickly (so looking for biomarkers, running lots of tests, trying to figure out if the tests they have are good enough, that kind of basic treatment strategy). Doctors and nurses are really overwhelmed. They can't be the ones who go to bat for the mechanics of new treatments - that's the job of hospital administrators and public health officials (all the way up to the federal level, namely CDC and FDA, better not say more).

Understood. Though I am not speaking of treatments. The medical community is overwhelmed. And medical treatments will be understandably slower to develop and release.

I am speaking of mechanical/technological implements and systems to protect the population. Curb the spread. Allow a measure of semi-normal life. Ease things up for our hardworking and tiring health workers.

And perhaps allow us sooner rather than later to reduce numbers to a point where virus suppression is possible.

 

[margarita25]

Florida Sets Yet Another Coronavirus Record: 173 Deaths In A Day

“Florida reported its largest number of deaths in a single day from the coronavirus: 173 on Thursday. The state says 10,249 people tested positive for the virus.

Florida is behind only California and New York in total cases. Other states, including Texas and California, also posted record deaths this week as the nation's total number of COVID-19 cases topped 4 million.”

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Over one-fifth of Jacksonville’s COVID-19 deaths were reported in last 7 days
State marks another grim milestone with 173 additional deaths reported -- a one-day record

 

[ilovewings]

Yes. Mobile phones, satellites, fast world wide internet, cosmetic surgery, laser surgery, prosthesis, flights across the entire world in just 9 hours .... and so much more. And yet we are not advancing past masks and social distancing?

The scientists are doing it for us. Why are we not implementing the things that are passing their intense scrutiny and tests?

I so agree- isn't it just amazing- we have all this great technology and yet, with this pandemic we have not progressed past masks and social distancing-- it blows my mind. I keep reading about different drugs that are being given to treat people with the virus but i will be you not every hospital in the country has those drugs at hand and treats patients with those drugs: i imagine it is hit and miss---

 

[musicaljoke]

Why America is running out of aluminum cans

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/22/business/beer-shortage-aluminum-can/index.html

A shortage of one of the most mundane items in daily life -- the humble aluminum can -- means beer fans are likely to find that some of their favorite brews are out of stock right now.



The supply problem is prompting brewers like Molson Coors, (TAP) Brooklyn Brewery and Karl Strauss to cut back on the breadth of brands they sell and exacerbating concerns of out-of-stocks.



"Everyone who makes anything that goes into a 12-ounce can is being challenged in some respect," Adam Collins, Molson Coors' spokesperson, told CNN Business.



One major factor is the coronavirus and changing habits related to it.


Beer that would have ended up in kegs at restaurants and bars has shifted, along with other kinds of alcohol, to being sold in retail stores and through online channels and consumed at home -- often in cans. The boom in pantry loading in the spring has compounded the problem by throwing brewer supply chains out of whack.


Demand for the can was already strong before the pandemic. Brewers increasingly turned to the vessel during the past 10 years.

[...]

Another factor: the White Claw-driven hard seltzer trend. The fervor for those drinks has spurred shortages in the tall, slim varietals of the 12-ounce can, which has become a popular format for alcoholic sparkling seltzers, light beer and some craft brands.

"This is a little bit of Covid, a little bit of market dynamics over the long run," said Lester Jones, the Wholesalers Association chief economist.


Molson Coors, which sells brands like Blue Moon and Coors Light, shifted production in its portfolio away from smaller, slower-moving brands as a result of the can shortage, Collins said. He declined to name specific beers, citing competitive concerns.

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sbm & bbm

The US running out of aluminum for cans has nothing to do with CoVid. Ask anyone from Canada. They could tell you what's up with that. But heh! It doesn't even get a mention in the article from CNN.

Trudeau says U.S. tariffs on Canadian aluminum would hurt both economies
Trump on track to slap tariffs on Canada’s aluminum again

 

[LadyL]

No bounces and had it been a straight throw he would have reached the plate. Good job Dr. Fauci and at 79 yrs. no less.

I sure couldn't have done better.

 

[Tadpole12]

Per Worldometers - Day 103 - New Cases=69,000 - Deaths=1,150

Coronavirus Update (Live): 15,650,441 Cases and 636,384 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

Ty SCDS

I always check the John Hopkins site,

COVID-19 Map

but I now see the tally is behind Worldometer.

 

[SoCalDavidS]

I sure couldn't have done better.

He should have lobbed it. Might have fallen short, but it looked like his throw was so bad, it caught even the catcher off guard. He didn't make any attempt whatsoever to go after it.

 

[tresir2012]

Yes. Mobile phones, satellites, fast world wide internet, cosmetic surgery, laser surgery, prosthesis, flights across the entire world in just 9 hours .... and so much more. And yet we are not advancing past masks and social distancing?

The scientists are doing it for us. Why are we not implementing the things that are passing their intense scrutiny and tests?

As you mentioned Zoono I checked out a UK source. Its advertised at £155 for 5 litres.

Commercial

 

[LadyL]

uh huh

More than 150 prominent US medical experts, scientists, teachers, nurses and others have signed a letter urging political leaders to shut down the country and start over to contain the surging coronavirus pandemic.

Shut down the country and start over to contain Covid-19 - CNN

 

[LadyL]

He should have lobbed it. Might have fallen short, but it looked like his throw was so bad, it caught even the catcher off guard. He didn't make any attempt whatsoever to go after it.

he had power behind it though
just not aim lol