Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #73

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One North Carolina mom's Covid-19 story:
“Our entire family has COVID”: Molly Grantham shares ‘surreal’ diagnosis while raising newborn

"That’s a direct way to say it, but I don’t have any bandwidth left to beat around the bush. The past two weeks have been a surreal, quarantine-illness-filled-world…while living and raising a newborn. At 10-days-old, Hobie was “the youngest person tested in Mecklenburg County” and “youngest presumptively positive case,” according to the county health department. I’m writing now because we are all okay.

Please know that: We Are All Okay.

But, it is nutty. I couldn’t script the life we’ve been living if I tried: Parker got it first. Of the various visions I had about coming home with a new baby, none included the whole family in isolation with a potentially deadly virus."
 
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Coronavirus: 33 cases linked to farm outbreak in Urbana

According to the CHD, the outbreak appears to be limited to workers who also reside on the premises. Customers who have visited the facility to purchase produce remain at low risk.

“We are working through proper channels with local health officials to protect the safety of all of our employees as well as the public. Impacted workers are being kept separate from others and will be remaining in their on-site residences to avoid any contact with the local community,” Scott Michael, CEO of Michael Farms said in a statement.
 
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And so money still talks. Sturgis rally. Aug 7-16. 250k expected. Never mind what the citizens think.

In a survey of residents conducted by the city, more than 60% said the rally should be postponed. But businesses pressured the City Council to proceed.

Rallygoers have spent about $800 million in past years, according to the state Department of Tourism.
Annual Sturgis rally expecting 250K, stirring virus concerns

This is so sad. They're showing the lead-up to it on our local news. Hopefully, it will just be Sturgis that's affected and hopefully those same citizens will lock themselves up while the business owners attempt to protect their employees (hopefully). I think a lot of people are thinking "Just put a younger person out there, public-facing and it's all good."

A lot of our younger people (including up to age 40) have never had a serious illness - maybe a flu now and then. They haven't had a fever that lasts for days, and they haven't had the aches and shakes that come with CoVid. Lungs and kidneys on fire, basically. A reset of the body's muscles to "weak" and the long time of recovery.

They've not had measles, rubella, mumps, chicken pox, and most have not had a severe flu, either.

What I notice is that people who have in fact dealt with health issues are more worried about CoVId - with good reason.

For many it's not a big deal, apparently, if it happens to someone else. The reason societies have laws and rules is to deal with situations like this.

No one upstream cares if they take all the water, so we have laws about how much water people can take and how much they pay for it.
 
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A number of COVID updates just posted in the Washington Post a few hours ago.

Millions of dollars from the Paycheck Protection Program went to China-backed businesses. “Because the economic relief legislation allowed American subsidiaries of foreign firms to receive the loans, a substantial chunk of the money went to America’s biggest economic rival,” the Times reports. “According to a review of publicly available loan data by the strategy consulting firm Horizon Advisory, $192 million to $419 million has gone to more than 125 companies that Chinese entities own or invest in. Many of the loans were quite sizable; at least 32 Chinese companies received loans worth more than $1 million, with those totaling as much as $180 million.


Trump is considering possible options for unilateral action if his negotiators cannot reach a deal with Congress. It’s not clear what steps the administration could take without Congress on issues such as unemployment benefits, Erica Werner and Jeff Stein report.

A Federal Reserve Bank president is calling for the U.S. economy to be fully shut down for between four to six weeks. “The economy, which in the second quarter suffered its biggest blow since the Great Depression, would be able to mount a robust recovery, but only if the virus were brought under control, Neel Kashkari, president of the Minneapolis Federal Reserve Bank, told CBS,” Reuters reports. “‘If we don’t do that and we just have this raging virus spreading throughout the country with flare-ups and local lockdowns for the next year or two, which is entirely possible, we’re going to see many, many more business bankruptcies,’ Kashkari said. ‘That’s going to be a much slower recovery for all of us.’ He said Congress is positioned to spend big on coronavirus relief efforts because the nation’s budget gap can be financed without relying on foreign borrowing, given how much Americans are saving [by not going out]. ‘That actually means that we have a lot more resources as a country to support those who have been laid off,’ he said.”

San Francisco flattened the coronavirus curve early, but now cases are surging.
“More than four months after the region put some of the nation’s first shelter-in-place orders in effect, the Bay Area is experiencing a surge in cases and counties are rolling back reopening plans,” Heather Kelly and Rachel Lerman report. “The Bay Area, which consists of nine counties and nearly 8 million people, is a cautionary tale for government and health officials. Even though leaders here tried to do everything cautiously and by the book, cases still eventually spiked over a month and a half, to an average of 877 cases a day at the end of July from 217 a day in mid-June. Medical experts say a slow but steady rise in complacency is worsening the case count. Contact tracers have told public health researchers that people are getting sick after indoor gatherings. And the numbers show that Latino residents and essential workers are being hit the hardest.”

  • The largest school district in Georgia reported that about 260 employees tested positive for the virus or are in quarantine because of possible exposure as they began preparing for the new school year. Gwinnett County public school teachers began in-person planning meetings last Wednesday. The infected or quarantined employees were excused from work by the next day. (Atlanta Journal-Constitution)
  • Tom Barrett, a Republican state senator from Michigan who has been critical of Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s (D) handling of the pandemic, tested positive. In April, Barrett sponsored a bill to repeal one of the two state laws that allow Whitmer to declare emergencies. (Detroit News)
  • The pastor of a D.C. Catholic church who urged people not to “cower in fear” of the virus has contracted it, prompting health officials to tell about 250 staff and parishioners to self-quarantine for two weeks, including those who took communion at Holy Comforter St. Cyprian Catholic Church between July 25 and July 27. (Rebecca Tan)
  • The Houston Chronicle found that Texas health officials were not counting the results of rapid-response covid-19 tests in the state’s tally, suggesting that the state has tens of thousands more infections than previously disclosed.
  • Frail inmates could be sent home to prevent the spread of the virus. But the Bureau of Prisons has largely disregarded compassionate release. The bureau said 25 people have died in its custody this year while their requests for parole were under consideration, including 18 since the start of March. (Justin Wm. Moyer and Neena Satija)
  • Families say nursing home residents face growing anxiety and despair, as they increasingly struggle with isolation. “Mom says she has been suicidal. She says, ‘I can’t imagine another one or two days, sitting here,’" said Heidi Wise, daughter of 88-year-old dementia patient. (NJ Advance)
  • South Dakota is bracing to host hundreds of thousands of bikers from Aug. 7-16 for the annual Sturgis Motorcycle Rally. The event could be the biggest anywhere so far during the pandemic, even as the state suffers an uptick of infections. (AP)
  • Canadians are tracking U.S. boaters who attempt to sneak across the border in order to send them back home. And they can do so from their living rooms, thanks to the mandatory tracking system that is easily accessible through the Internet and lets Canadians know when Americans are trying to paddle through. (NPR)
Quote of the day

“I’m sorry, but it’s a fantasy,” Arizona superintendent Jeff Gregorich said of fully reopening schools. (Eli Saslow)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ed-senate-by-stretching-delegation-authority/
 
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'Stop! Sanitize!': Alabama principal parodies MC Hammer ahead of students' return to school amid coronavirus

With schools in certain states starting to open for in-person learning during the the ongoing pandemic, Alabama principal Quentin Lee wanted to make sure the more than 300 students at Childersburg High got the message about the school's new restrictions.

In a musical parody of MC Hammer's “U Can’t Touch This,” Lee shows how the school is looking to keep kids safe.

Water fountains? Doorknobs? Vending machines? Can’t touch this. Students are also told to social distance and Lee is seen with a no-contact thermometer. The song ends with a, “Stop! Sanitize!” to drive the point home.

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This is awesome ! Love this guy!
 
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Coronavirus: 33 cases linked to farm outbreak in Urbana

According to the CHD, the outbreak appears to be limited to workers who also reside on the premises. Customers who have visited the facility to purchase produce remain at low risk.

“We are working through proper channels with local health officials to protect the safety of all of our employees as well as the public. Impacted workers are being kept separate from others and will be remaining in their on-site residences to avoid any contact with the local community,” Scott Michael, CEO of Michael Farms said in a statement.

On site residences? Is this a small town?
 
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'This epidemic is now out of control': Why social distancing and face masks aren't enough

"This epidemic is now out of control. And it's out of control mostly because of our own behavior," said William Haseltine, chairman and president of ACCESS Health International.

"People have not taken the consistent warnings of our health officials seriously. They are gathering in private and in public places without adequate protection. They are ignoring the advice."

At least 30 states suffered higher rates of new deaths this past week compared to the previous week, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. In 12 of those states, the increase in deaths was at least 50%: Washington, Idaho, Montana, South Dakota, Texas, Mississippi, Michigan, Ohio, Maine, Virginia, West Virginia and Alaska.

And test positivity rates -- an indicator of how rampantly a virus is spreading -- remains stubbornly high in more than 30 states.

Yeah, “a comprehensive approach” is need, “whole on government approach at both the State and National level”, a strong “community approach” with “community engagement”...masks alone are not enough, social distancing alone is not enough, it must be a “comprehensive strategy”, which is find, test, care for, trace....”
 
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My view is that the federal response has been so changeable and that the feds are so slow to respond, that most states have had to wing it and build their own response.

6 months in, and we still don't have a workable federal plan that starts with the basics (testing) and covers data collection (now split into parts).

We needed to have state-to-federal interfaces (ongoing communication, webinars, visits, staffing in Washington, staffing at CDC, etc., etc)

It doesn't work if there are not people staffing the federal side.

IMO. And the reasons for this opinion are not on topic per WS.

But it never had to be this way. I believe the Fed Reserve head in Minneapolis is right............we need a total restart.
 
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My view is that the federal response has been so changeable and that the feds are so slow to respond, that most states have had to wing it and build their own response.

6 months in, and we still don't have a workable federal plan that starts with the basics (testing) and covers data collection (now split into parts).

We needed to have state-to-federal interfaces (ongoing communication, webinars, visits, staffing in Washington, staffing at CDC, etc., etc)

It doesn't work if there are not people staffing the federal side.

IMO. And the reasons for this opinion are not on topic per WS.


I respect your opinion and you have shared what a great job your state is doing, I commend your Governor. But if NOT for the federal government Virginia would have very little.

I live in Virginia, our governor let us know the stock pile of emergency supplies for our state was empty from the get go. Said, he relied on FEMA for PPE, mask, etc during emergencies. We received almost 2 billion in CARES money. No state testing sites, we have a state contract for a NEW company established to provide NOT make PPE. This is a confidential contact, all attempts to obtain under FOIA have produced heavily redacted copies. Request for quantities and where PPE from the national supply were sent have resulted again, in redacted documents.

The state lab only processes 300 test per day and we have 3 major universities with state of the art labs, that created COVID test and are FDA approved. Are they processing covid test, nope. Dr. Birx has recommended the state increase statelab capacity and process test at our university labs. I have personally spoken to Dr. TONEY our state lab director. She's a VA gal, went to VA TECH wants to increase our capacity but does not see that in our future.

Not all states are doing a good job and mine would be in sad, sad shape if it weren't for the federal government.

Our Governor is a Doctor, a pediatric neurologist. Served in the military. I would have thought he would have listened to Dr, Birx who met with him an entire day last week. You know a doctor to doctor, peer to peer conversation. NOPE. Sorry, just expecting a little more effort on my states part.

I greatly apprecitate states that rise to the challenge, create and enact their own plan. Northern Virginia....Fairfax and surrounding areas of DC quickly and early on separated themselves from our governor. They enacted their own plan, were successful with online education, purchased and obtained their own testing supplies and heald their own press conferences. For weeks the only information we had came from NOVA PCs. They have done an outstanding job, didn't wait on the state or feds, quickly developed a game plan and now have an average positive rate of 5%, with a few spikes, quickly contained.

Moo...
 
  • #471
One North Carolina mom's Covid-19 story:
“Our entire family has COVID”: Molly Grantham shares ‘surreal’ diagnosis while raising newborn

"That’s a direct way to say it, but I don’t have any bandwidth left to beat around the bush. The past two weeks have been a surreal, quarantine-illness-filled-world…while living and raising a newborn. At 10-days-old, Hobie was “the youngest person tested in Mecklenburg County” and “youngest presumptively positive case,” according to the county health department. I’m writing now because we are all okay.

Please know that: We Are All Okay.

But, it is nutty. I couldn’t script the life we’ve been living if I tried: Parker got it first. Of the various visions I had about coming home with a new baby, none included the whole family in isolation with a potentially deadly virus."

WBTV's Molly Grantham
 
  • #472
'Stop! Sanitize!': Alabama principal parodies MC Hammer ahead of students' return to school amid coronavirus

With schools in certain states starting to open for in-person learning during the the ongoing pandemic, Alabama principal Quentin Lee wanted to make sure the more than 300 students at Childersburg High got the message about the school's new restrictions.

In a musical parody of MC Hammer's “U Can’t Touch This,” Lee shows how the school is looking to keep kids safe.

Water fountains? Doorknobs? Vending machines? Can’t touch this. Students are also told to social distance and Lee is seen with a no-contact thermometer. The song ends with a, “Stop! Sanitize!” to drive the point home.

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I saw this in the Today's show this morning.

Loved the video and the approach and commitment of this school leader!!!
 
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In the USA we are governed by the state. The federal government does not have the authority or legal power to "lock down" a state or even a city. That I can find and continue to look for.

I have read, re-read, the Constitution and federal law and see no loop hole the federal government has to issue a federal mandate and use US troops to enforce locking down a state. As I see/read, the federal government only has jurisdiction on federal owned land...federal parks, military bases, federal court houses and government agencies.

Many times states chose to ignore federal laws and not enforce. Our federal government has chosen not to take military/legal action against these states or localities. Two examples I reference are the states refusing to enforce or assist the federal government with illegally growing marijuana, many states have made legal, although federally illegal. Also ICE, many states and localities refuse and even assist/protect illegal immigrants from federal authorities.

Just not seeing a national/federal one size fits all response coming. Some states won't follow CDC recommendations for masks. opening communities only when positivity is below 5%, school recommendations, etc.

States "buck up" against the federal government and law frequently.

How would be ever be able to have a national response?

I agree its what we need, especially in states that refuse to follow the 1000s of pages of CDC recommendations to protect US citizens,

OT/ recently found out my local administers, BOS, School Board and even the School superintendent had NOT read the CDC guidelines, they were waiting on the State/local health depart crip note version. They seemed surprised and some offended that I would read them. Coming from a career of HC management CDC was our Bible, set the goal standard, always used to set policy and make decisions. We always read and followed CDC guidleines.

MOO....

They were offended because you were doing a better job than them. They were clearly lazy and just waiting around for others to do their thinking for them. And from a distance that's what it looks like an awful lot of these employees are doing.
 
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I think she's been honest all along.


I feel she's been honest to a fault,

She's traveled to numerous states, met with governors, carried the same message, recommended specific states close bars and roll back. Many of the PCs are not covered or not in full.

Her message has not changed, its one most don't want to hear and/or follow her guidance.

Wear a mask, social distance, no crowds, no secret birthday/beach parties/concerts.
 
  • #477
Possibly he has not heard about the vaccines, although that's doubtful. Or possibly he knows that there is still this year, plus a good part of next year .. which translates to a year or two for accountant types who measure time by calendar years.
I'm an accountant type and that doesn't equate to me as a year or two. We have been told Autumn or early 2021. That should mean less than a year IME. If it is not going to be here till next flu season then they should be more honest.
 
  • #478
Reading this just makes me so depressed. She is such a statistics based person, and it is just so sad how she was received.
I gather NOVA is Northern VA?
When Virginians get up close and personal what do they think about Northam. Or is it different in the rural parts?

I don't expect her to visit Florida. But I wish she would come anyway..... somehow.


Yes, NOVA is northern Virginia.

Northam down 15 points in a recent poll on his response to Covid.

I was embarrassed for the way my government treated Dr. Birx.

The only information the governor would release of their meeting was....we all complained to her about the federal response. Only two Richmond TV stations were allowed to record her press conference and our local channel had difficulty getting a full copy. They only received clips for their affiliate station.

ETA... She has been in Florida with VP Pence and met with the governor. They even made a side trip to a Tampa hospital my nieces husband works as ER Director at.
 
  • #479
AFAIK the phases were clear but maybe some states thought it would not affect them with the hot weather claims and info that only elderly or those with underlying conditions were most at risk. TBH we had very little info coming out of China and could only watch Italy and know that would be us next. It was like watching a slow mud slide or tsunami and knowing it was coming but just having a tent up to try and stop it. MOO.
 
  • #480
Reading this just makes me so depressed. She is such a statistics based person, and it is just so sad how she was received.
I gather NOVA is Northern VA?
When Virginians get up close and personal what do they think about Northam. Or is it different in the rural parts?

I don't expect her to visit Florida. But I wish she would come anyway..... somehow.
She visited a month ago with VP Pence and the task force.

Press Briefing by Vice President Pence, Governor DeSantis of Florida, and Members of the Coronavirus Task Force | Tampa, FL | The White House
 
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