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Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine tests positive for COVID-19

Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine tested positive for the coronavirus on Thursday before he was supposed to greet President Donald Trump.

DeWine has no symptoms at the present time, according to a news release.

COVID-19: Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine tests positive
 
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Oh my..

Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine tests positive for COVID-19

Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine tested positive for the coronavirus on Thursday before he was supposed to greet President Donald Trump.

DeWine has no symptoms at the present time, according to a news release.

COVID-19: Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine tests positive
What type of tests do the WH use? Is it just a temp check?
 
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Wow. He’s 73?
Ohio isn’t one of the states I follow so am kinda clueless about him specifically


Oh my..

Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine tests positive for COVID-19

Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine tested positive for the coronavirus on Thursday before he was supposed to greet President Donald Trump.

DeWine has no symptoms at the present time, according to a news release.

COVID-19: Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine tests positive
 
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Oh my..

Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine tests positive for COVID-19

Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine tested positive for the coronavirus on Thursday before he was supposed to greet President Donald Trump.

DeWine has no symptoms at the present time, according to a news release.

COVID-19: Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine tests positive

This gentleman really set the bar from the beginning for smart, kind, responsible leadership, though it must have gotten so difficult as time wore on and support waned. I am sure he was as careful as a public figure can be, and I wish him and his family well.
 
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So, how can they afford college, if they can't afford food?

I don't know about other states, but college is free for most community college students and many state college students and even many UC students. I think this is true for most states. Tuition grants are not uncommon. Private schools tend to dispense loans instead, although many of the better ones do tuition relief as well.

Financial aid packages beyond tuition and fees really vary and are typically loans. The Academic Senates of many colleges have taken stances on discouraging students from running up debt to pay for living expenses, such as food. I certainly discourage it - because the loan checks are far larger than they need, they lack the self-discipline to return most of the money, etc.

At any rate, more than 25% of my students report food issues. We do some food diary work in the lab, and some of them are seriously protein deficient. 60% on any given day did not have breakfast and many have gone 12 hours without eating (or as long as 24 hours) at the time of the exercise.
 
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What type of tests do the WH use? Is it just a temp check?

Quote from the article:
He is returning to Columbus where he and First Lady Fran DeWine will both be tested.
COVID-19: Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine tests positive

It may have been the rapid test (I think it’s the one the WH uses), which I believe is less accurate, but more on missing positive cases, is my recollection ( as in false-negatives).

The quote above says that he and his wife will return to Columbus where they “will both be tested”(bolding mine). I’m interpreting that to think maybe the Gov. will take a second test to see if it agrees with the prior test (maybe the pcr test this time?). MOO
 
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This gentleman really set the bar from the beginning for smart, kind, responsible leadership, though it must have gotten so difficult as time wore on and support waned. I am sure he was as careful as a public figure can be, and I wish him and his family well.
Thank you. I know him and what you see is the real deal with DeWine. I'm frightened :(
 
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Thank you. I know him and what you see is the real deal with DeWine. I'm frightened :(

As a former Ohioan for a few years, I wish him well. He’s 73. I hope he doesn’t get a bad case...
 
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I don't know about other states, but college is free for most community college students and many state college students and even many UC students. I think this is true for most states. Tuition grants are not uncommon. Private schools tend to dispense loans instead, although many of the better ones do tuition relief as well.

Financial aid packages beyond tuition and fees really vary and are typically loans. The Academic Senates of many colleges have taken stances on discouraging students from running up debt to pay for living expenses, such as food. I certainly discourage it - because the loan checks are far larger than they need, they lack the self-discipline to return most of the money, etc.

At any rate, more than 25% of my students report food issues. We do some food diary work in the lab, and some of them are seriously protein deficient. 60% on any given day did not have breakfast and many have gone 12 hours without eating (or as long as 24 hours) at the time of the exercise.
I know NC and GA are unfortunately not one of those states. Private college prices were shocking.
States With Free College Programs - NerdWallet

That’s terrible to hear about the students food situation. :(
 
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July 30: Dr. Swaminathan, early in the conference, around the 10:00ish iirc, makes some important comments re: Act Accelerator and COVAX in response to a reporter’s question re: distribution.

Press briefings

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Eta: @10ofRods, anthropology is mentioned as one of the fields which is a part of the Behavior/Psychology program referenced in the July 30 WHO PC.

That's the first WHO presser I've watched since the 'window closed'.
The new team focusing on behavioral change and how to present valid facts.
It's a positive focus on change.
 
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I have really wondered about the efficacy of the tests. Is there any quality control? I wonder where these tests come from.

I wonder about the training of the test-givers. They've hired so many new people to do it, I don't think the requirements for hire are very high (probably a month of training). I'm sure sometimes it's nurses, or there's a nurse nearby, but it takes a while to really get the idea of how the nasal anatomy works in different people and not everyone's nose is the same. Needs to be enough swabbing, not just a little.
 
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I know NC and GA are unfortunately not one of those states. Private college prices were shocking.
States With Free College Programs - NerdWallet

That’s terrible to hear about the students food situation. :(

Right. This is usually the time of year when we see way more NC license plates here in SoCal. They get on the I-40, come for fun, and then see if they can land a job. A lot don't stay (housing is expensive). Right now, no jobs, obviously (at least not many). But we're pretty liberal about in-state tuition, really. Doesn't take long to get qualified for free college here.

When it's not CoVid, we have an active food bank on campus. Run by students. A lot of students are also homeless, living in cars/couch surfing. We were having discussions about allowing homeless students to overnight on campus (leaving gym open 24 hours, etc). But that still takes staffing and a slightly higher police presence at night, which means it costs $. Most faculty were very much in favor of that. But...no one wanted to have it be "just anyone from anywhere" living on campus - only students.
 
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I wonder about the training of the test-givers. They've hired so many new people to do it, I don't think the requirements for hire are very high (probably a month of training). I'm sure sometimes it's nurses, or there's a nurse nearby, but it takes a while to really get the idea of how the nasal anatomy works in different people and not everyone's nose is the same. Needs to be enough swabbing, not just a little.

Most that I've heard of are self-administered, so I would expect they aren't being done correctly, considering how uncomfortable a "proper" test is reported to be.
 
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If antibody tests are not reliable and tests for an active infection are also unreliable what are we supposed to learn from this?

Alyssa Milano Tests Positive for COVID-19 Antibodies After 3 Negative Results: 'I Thought I Was Dying'

That medicine, throughout its entire history, is not perfect. There are NO drugs, procedures, compounds or activities that are safe or accurate for absolutely everyone..

When we scale up testing, the errors are magnified. If it's 1 in 100,000 who have a bad test - multiple that by 100 or 600 and you get a lot people who can tell their story to news media (of which 10-15 will do so and you'll hear about the celebrity cases first).

Nothing about a person's body is typical or stable. The true measure of whether some has "has CoVid" is in their lungs. In labs, where people work with monkeys, they put them under anesthesia and wash out their lungs (you can't do this with people, it's dangerous) and then study the amount of virions there. If we had a lung-based test, it would work better.

But right now, nasal and throat swabs are all we have (nasal are preferred - but only a mere reflection of what's going on deep in the lungs).
 
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