Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #74

[Sundog]

musical I never got a call and I'm in southwestern Ontario like Bravo
however, I do not answer the phone unless I recognize the number & I did get a call earlier from a Toronto number that I ignored

Are these political robocalls or other kinds of robocalls?

 

[LadyL]

Clorox CEO-elect says company is making 1 million wipes packages a day

LYSOL's better IMO
Clorox tests on animals

ETA: I was wrong. It appears that LYSOL does test on animals!

 

[LadyL]

Are these political robocalls or other kinds of robocalls?

don't know - didn't answer and no message left

 

[Bailey38]

Have you checked the poster's profile? It should tell you when they were last on the system.

I did, last week of July. We usually email every couple of days. Maybe she just had to take a break. Hoping!

 

[Simply Southern]

Well, maybe she should look at home schooling and start taking community college classes early.

It is sad, things change. This generation is definitely getting a lesson in resiliency. New goals. Maybe priorities and goals that used to be important need to be re-evaluated for our new reality. This is not a cavalier statement, to crush her goals and disappointment. But, maybe time to make new and different goals. Things have changed. Maybe being class valedictorian just isn't a goal worth doing now. Maybe early graduation is a better plan.

Her parents have considered all possibilities for her and her brother. They are both so active, have lots of friends and it would be like a punishment to take her away from her friends.

Hoping Covid is under control or at least manageable by next school year.

But that is a great idea to take a couple of community college classes. Why we didn't think of this...
Anyway, both are enrolled at the community college and have taken several art, drama and computer classes for credit. And the best part, its free thanks to having grand and great grand parents who were tobacco farmers, they can attend under the Virginia Tobacco settlement.

Its been so stressful sometimes we can't see through the fog. Thanks so much for the ideas and suggestions.

 

[Sundog]

LYSOL's better IMO
Clorox tests on animals

Do you have any links about this, I am interested in comparing the two companies. At the link below, article says that Lysol does tests on animals, and product is not animal-free. Am looking for info on clorox as well.

Is Lysol Cruelty-Free in 2020? - Cruelty-Free Collections

ETA I found articles on both Lysol and Clorox, and apparently both of these brands test on animals in countries where they sell their produces that require, by law, that tests be conducted on animals.

 

[Bailey38]

I have received an email from my friend here and she is still very ill but alive. Thanks for the support and advice! *praying*

 

[LadyL]

More than 500 COVID-19 infections in Canada linked to exposures at public places, new data suggests

 

[LadyL]

Do you have any links about this, I am interested in comparing the two companies. At the link below, article says that Lysol does tests on animals, and product is not animal-free. Am looking for info on clorox as well.

Is Lysol Cruelty-Free in 2020? - Cruelty-Free Collections

here's Clorox:

Clorox does not conduct or ask third parties to conduct on its behalf any animal testing on products or ingredients within the Clorox product portfolio unless that testing is required by law and there is no available alternative.

Animal Testing | The Clorox Company

and damn I thought Lysol was cruelty-free but you may be right! so disappointing

 

[Sundog]

here's Clorox:

Clorox does not conduct or ask third parties to conduct on its behalf any animal testing on products or ingredients within the Clorox product portfolio unless that testing is required by law and there is no available alternative.

Animal Testing | The Clorox Company

So it sounds like both Lysol and Clorox have the same policy with regard to animal testing, they only do animal testing in countries where they sell their products if that country requires animal testing. Like China, that requires animal testing by law. So both Lysol and Clorox do animal testing of their products in China.

 

[10ofRods]

Won't they let kids take credits online to graduate on time? That seems to be insanity to hold kids back. And I agree, this is such an odd situation, for so many people. So many jobs have just "disappeared". My cousin is an event planner, he was constantly busy. Now, he is considering getting a CDL.

You still have to pay (and in this case, probably train) teachers.

Lack of planning within school district is as rampant as everywhere else.

Unfortunately, most places you have to have a license in order to teach. There are various rules and policies that prevent a teacher from getting overtime - either at all, or it's limited.

Of course, these rules and laws can be suspended rather easily for a crisis. But...school boards are shaking in their boots about next year's funding - and summer is budgeted out of last year (which is probably already spent).

Gah. To all good HS students, may I recommend community college online courses? There should be way more available - and in some states, at least, it's free for high school students. They can often count it toward HS graduation as well as transfer it (depends on the state).

For those in states where there is seamless access to state universities (via many methods), high school students can typically enroll while they still seek their degree.

 

[LadyL]

As COVID-19 cases passes 5M mark in America, Europe stunned at failure of U.S. to contain virus

As COVID-19 cases passes 5M mark in America, Europe stunned at failure of U.S. to contain virus

 

[Sundog]

here's Clorox:

Clorox does not conduct or ask third parties to conduct on its behalf any animal testing on products or ingredients within the Clorox product portfolio unless that testing is required by law and there is no available alternative.

Animal Testing | The Clorox Company

and damn I thought Lysol was cruelty-free but you may be right! so disappointing

I found a website that lists the companies who don't do animal testing abroad, but those products are incredibly expensive. I've never used disinfectant products like Lysol and Clorox until this pandemic, just used bleach for various purposes. But when the pandemic started in March, I stocked up on some wipes, mostly Lysol. And a few spray bottles of Clorox I bought at Home Depot a few weeks ago. Will do some more reading before heading out or ordering in the next time.

 

[anneg]

It's an awful thing when Covid gets into the care homes. Our Premier shed tears when he spoke of it in a news update.

Two nursing homes in my county had major outbreaks of COVID in the spring, and I think there may have been a few more deaths since. About 45 total deaths of nursing home residents as of early August. In one of the homes, more than one third of the residents with COVID died. Horrible.

 

[MajorHoople]

Heh, no. We live in the north where there be dragons. Our political leaders don't know we exist.

That Town Hall is via Zoom, I hope? Our local councilors are still meeting by Zoom.

I read somewhere that 90% of Canadians live within 50 mile of the southern border. Is that accurate?

 

[SouthAussie]

^^^^ Students in Bangkok, Thailand ... masked and contained within plastic screens.


Thailand is making plans to allow at least 3000 foreign teachers to enter the country, even as it continues to keep out tourists and tightly restricts other arrivals to guard against new coronavirus infections.
The teachers, who come from countries including the Philippines, New Zealand, the United States and Britain, will have to be quarantined for 14 days after arrival.
Follow coronavirus live updates in our 9NEWS live blog

 

[tmar]

More than 20 million coronavirus cases have been confirmed worldwide

More than 20 million coronavirus cases have been confirmed worldwide

Sarah Al-Arshani

1 hour ago

• There were more than 20 million confirmed global coronavirus cases reported as of Monday.
• Over 733,900 people have died from COVID-19 worldwide.
• The US accounts for 25% of the world's cases with more than 5 million recorded.
  
  Worldwide, 20,004,254 COVID-19 cases have been recorded with over 733,900 deaths. The new record comes just six weeks after the world passed 10 million coronavirus cases on June 28.

 

[mickey2942]

I read somewhere that 90% of Canadians live within 50 mile of the southern border. Is that accurate?

Yes. And look at this article about how crazy border issues are now...
'So disappointed': Common-law partners are being turned away at the border

 

[10ofRods]

the situation with school re-openings sends me into a state of anxiety; it isn't only the kids who are vectors for the virus, spreading to educators, but think about the spread to the community- to parents who go shopping at the supermarket- they will be all over the place and many of them will not be wearing masks or socially distancing. I can only see a nightmare ahead with schools re-opening. i would like to be wrong but i don't think i am.

THIS. First of all, neither you nor I wants to see a tiny number (ANY number) of little kids sick or dead.

BUT, what about their parents?

Parents are being careful - but now, there are these little CoVid-producers who are asymptomatic. Parents have been careful, but now they have to SOCIAL DISTANCE from their own child!!! in order to 1) avoid getting CoVId and 2) keep their ability to be workers in many parts of the economy where testing is required.

Great. So, the more careful occupations (nursing, doctors, etc) will end up sick (after avoiding it at the hospital or clinic) because they have children. Children who need to be cuddled, bathed, fed, etc.

And yes, those parents will go to the supermarket (etc) and give it to a lot of other adults.

You are not wrong and the data emerging from areas trying this model are grim.

Well, not grim if you think reducing numbers of H. sapiens is our top priority or that dying is better than living.

Really, it's just getting rid of the Old Folks in order to preserve a (diminishing) economic system for the young folks. If that's one's view, then it all makes a lot more sense.

 

[10ofRods]

Well, maybe she should look at home schooling and start taking community college classes early.

It is sad, things change. This generation is definitely getting a lesson in resiliency. New goals. Maybe priorities and goals that used to be important need to be re-evaluated for our new reality. This is not a cavalier statement, to crush her goals and disappointment. But, maybe time to make new and different goals. Things have changed. Maybe being class valedictorian just isn't a goal worth doing now. Maybe early graduation is a better plan.

You are wise. You, I like, very much. I hope everyone with kids in HS thinks about this approach. And yes, the academic literature shows that difficult times during youth breeds resiliency and much else.

But...I do feel very badly for kids who experience the loss of a prom or a letter jacket or a last football game. It's like wartime.

Humans don't go more than about 50 years without some major crisis, and for some cultures, it's almost continuous.