Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #75

[mickey2942]

Oh my god, that would be punishment enough, I hate those things!

Better than having some checker cough all over your food. I seriously had that happen to me, and I was livid. After her fourth cough, behind a mask, it sounded like she was coughing up a lung, I told her to forget it. I was so mad.

I called the store, and ripped into the manager. I have not been back to that store since April.

 

[Clair Louise]

I don't care why they said no masks they made a huge mistake. it was wrong - and has caused chaos with respect to masking to the present time. They could have said something like we should use face coverings- that they would prefer masks but those were needed for front line workers; they could have said that face coverings could be made from items we have in our homes. Instead they said masks were not necessary nor effective. Some transparency would have been nice instead of lies

Why do you presume it was lies? This is a new virus and health officials are learning as they go.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

RSBM Then we have Labour Day Holiday in a few weeks

Crap. Forgot about that. Schools + Labor Day celebrations with family being exposed to kids, and kids with asymptomatic infections spreading to the three generation families that are celebrating = spread and increase again a week afterwards ....here we go...............

 

[Clair Louise]

Better than having some checker cough all over your food. I seriously had that happen to me, and I was livid. After her fourth cough, behind a mask, it sounded like she was coughing up a lung, I told her to forget it. I was so mad.

I called the store, and ripped into the manager. I have not been back to that store since April.

Where I shop, you have to walk past the display at the front of the store of cut flowers. They often have Tigerlillies which set off my hay fever terribly and I can sneeze for ages. I have to get past it really quickly and hold my breath.
I also have to get someone else to buy soap powder because that aisle starts me up sneezing too. It is really difficult to have a sneezing fit with a mask on.

 

[mickey2942]

Crap. Forgot about that. Schools + Labor Day celebrations with family being exposed to kids, and kids with asymptomatic infections spreading to the three generation families that are celebrating = spread and increase again a week afterwards ....here we go...............

I actually believe that school starting is what has ramped up the Contact tracing programs in so many counties. The hand writing is already on the wall.

 

[ilovewings]

Why do you presume it was lies? This is a new virus

Why do you presume it was lies? This is a new virus and health officials are learning as they go.

okay- you are right: i did a little googling and i guess they initially thought masks were not helpful. Then a couple months later they said masks were helpful -- that kind of mixed messaging confuses people and makes them wary of what they are being told. I am not one of those people who are confused. Wearing a mask makes complete sense but you have to wonder why they were against masking early on

 

[musicaljoke]

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ilovewings wrote: "okay- you are right: i did a little googling and i guess they initially thought masks were not helpful. Then a couple months later they said masks were helpful -- that kind of mixed messaging confuses people and makes them wary of what they are being told. I am not one of those people who are confused. Wearing a mask makes complete sense but you have to wonder why they were against masking early on"

There are a couple of reasons that come to mind quickly. One, of course, was the PPE crisis that has been discussed already.

Another, is that homemade masks can't be relied upon to protect the wearer. Covid particles are small enough to get through most home made masks, so telling people that wearing masks would protect them would have been be wrong. That fact hasn't changed. However, we now know that wearing masks reduces the risk that those who are infected will spray particles onto others, but at the beginning, the more urgent message was that we needed to social distance. That message still remains one of the most effective ways of stopping the spread.

 

[Clair Louise]

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ilovewings wrote: "okay- you are right: i did a little googling and i guess they initially thought masks were not helpful. Then a couple months later they said masks were helpful -- that kind of mixed messaging confuses people and makes them wary of what they are being told. I am not one of those people who are confused. Wearing a mask makes complete sense but you have to wonder why they were against masking early on"

There are a couple of reasons that come to mind quickly. One, of course, was the PPE crisis that has been discussed already.

Another, is that homemade masks can't be relied upon to protect the wearer. Covid particles are small enough to get through most home made masks, so telling people that wearing masks would protect them would have been be wrong. That fact hasn't changed. However, we now know that wearing masks reduces the risk that those who are infected will spray particles onto others, but at the beginning, the more urgent message was that we needed to social distance. That message still remains one of the most effective ways of stopping the spread.

BBM. Yes, and the countries who did lock down early and applied social distancing and tested and traced did much better than the countries who delayed those measures.

 

[musicaljoke]

Ten African innovations to help tackle Covid-19

Some nifty innovations coming from Africa. I like the robots.

 

[tmar]

My parents went to a garden centre this week. They were giving out free masks on the door to those without them. One man took his, and walked round the centre twirling it round his fingers

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Let's hope he trips, while concentrating on twirling.

 

[slowpoke]

I don't care why they said no masks they made a huge mistake. it was wrong - and has caused chaos with respect to masking to the present time. They could have said something like we should use face coverings- that they would prefer masks but those were needed for front line workers; they could have said that face coverings could be made from items we have in our homes. Instead they said masks were not necessary nor effective. Some transparency would have been nice instead of lies

Why do you presume it was lies? This is a new virus and health officials are learning as they go.

I don’t know if it was an outright lie, but the early messaging on masks per our Surgeon General’s now infamous tweet of “STOP BUYING MASKS! They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!” IMO was a confusing, contradictory message that seemed to be saying both that masks were ineffective, so don’t wear them— yet also saying our healthcare providers must have them to protect themselves against this virus.

I still remember my reaction to their non-recommendation. I felt, “Why not wear something. It will help, at the very least, to not to put my fingers to my mouth, so there’s that kind of protection. They already wear them in Asian countries.”
No one in the Task Force came up with the idea of homemade cloth masks at the time of that tweet?

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Category: <span> </span> | Herald Sun
MASSIVE DROP IN FLU CASES

Victoria has seen a staggering drop in the number of cases of the flu this year, with infections plummeting due to COVID-19 restrictions.

Only 4732 Victorians have contracted influenza this year, compared with 47,180 at the same time in 2019.

That’s a decrease of more than 85 per cent, the Department of Health and Human Services has confirmed.

This is likely a result of the state’s ongoing coronavirus lockdown, with social distancing measures, hand hygiene and now masks stopping the spread of the common virus.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Australia's national death toll from the coronavirus pandemic is set to breach 400, even as Victoria is showing signs of improvement in its daily infection rate.

National virus death toll on brink of 400

 

[TootsieFootsie]

NSW Covid-19 hotspots: list of regional and Sydney outbreak locations

 

[TootsieFootsie]

]New Zealand health officials are still investigating a possible Victorian link to the virus outbreak, despite a strong denial from the chief executive of the Americold cold storage company that a shipment from its Melbourne warehouse might be responsible for the Auckland cluster.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/oceani...o-melbourne-investigated-20200816-p55m5o.html

 

[TootsieFootsie]

DBM

 

[musicaljoke]

The [Toronto and District School Board] believes with help from the province, they could come up with about $20 million to create 15-student classrooms from junior kindergarten to Grade 3, and 20-student classrooms from Grade 4 to Grade 8.

To do that, they would end the school day about 45 minutes earlier than normal, and give teachers time to prep after students are dismissed. But that move would require ministry approval, and they would have to reassign teachers.

The board doesn't know at this point if they'll be able to do that in time for Sept. 8.

UPDATE: TDSB looking at delaying start to school year

 

[Clair Louise]

]New Zealand health officials are still investigating a possible Victorian link to the virus outbreak, despite a strong denial from the chief executive of the Americold cold storage company that a shipment from its Melbourne warehouse might be responsible for the Auckland cluster.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/oceani...o-melbourne-investigated-20200816-p55m5o.html

I have a couple of times been a bit disappointed with Jacinda's attitude to Australia. She appears to me to make it a competition. She doesn't want Australia to deport NZers serving sentences for serious crimes back to NZ and she expects the Australian government to provide Australians stimulus payments to NZers living in Australia.

 

[musicaljoke]

I have a couple of times been a bit disappointed with Jacinda's attitude to Australia. She appears to me to make it a competition. She doesn't want Australia to deport NZers serving sentences for serious crimes back to NZ and she expects the Australian government to provide Australians stimulus payments to NZers living in Australia.

Hmmm ... is NZ housing Australian prisoners and providing stimulus payments to Aussies living in NZ?

 

[Black Widow]

I happened to have one single mask in my medicine chest from last year. I bought it to eliminate grass allergies when mowing the lawn. When I checked it turned out to be an N95. I started wearing it immediately way back in March for grocery shopping....at which time every one was looking at me as if I was crazy but I didn’t care. ( Not much anyway.) I was determined to keep my compromised hubby safe.
Not many people laugh any more and a good half are wearing masks too...except the anti mask idiots...like the one step son. I have to admit though that it’s harder to wear one now that the weather is hot. I can hardly wait to get back to my vehicle and get it off and feel like I can really fill my lungs with air.

Yes there may be a cultural element in understanding/ preventing this virus, but there seems to be such an anti establishment attitude in the younger generation. Certainly not all, but so many seem to have no respect for rules and regulations and no understanding that in demanding their rights, they must also respect the rights of others. I kept noticing it before Covid hit...and wondering what the future would hold with this ‘ dissatisfied’ attitude. I think we are now experiencing it big time in the attitude towards the virus rules. Both in the USA and Canada. Heck, one of our own adult kids even has apparently developed the attitude. From where? Certainly not from us. I don’t know, perhaps the world is just too crowded,,too overpopulated...perhaps they feel they have to fight for space in it.