Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #75

[ilovewings]

I wonder if folks will start snorting pineapple

Maybe they'll inject pineapple juice LOL

 

[CSIDreamer]

But if that's all they did in Melbourne, or Auckland, they'd have thousands of cases per day, by now. This just seems like something really big is being missed, somewhere. A single security guard put millions into lockdown in Australia, but people have been congregating in AZ bars (and trust me, there's no distancing or masks once people pass through the door) and cases are dropping like a stone. And it's not just fiddling with the results - hospitalization has cratered, as well. It's like it all just "stopped" and no one seems interested in why. I find it very bizarre.

I'm in the same situation with my state, Indiana. We're still racking up positive cases but our death toll is staying extremely low now.

Are AZ schools in session?

 

[ilovewings]

I wonder if folks will start snorting pineapple

Maybe they'll inject pineapple juice LOL

But if that's all they did in Melbourne, or Auckland, they'd have thousands of cases per day, by now. This just seems like something really big is being missed, somewhere. A single security guard put millions into lockdown in Australia, but people have been congregating in AZ bars (and trust me, there's no distancing or masks once people pass through the door) and cases are dropping like a stone. And it's not just fiddling with the results - hospitalization has cratered, as well. It's like it all just "stopped" and no one seems interested in why. I find it very bizarre.

It sure would be good to know why cases stopped: something could be learned here.

 

[MrX]

I'm in the same situation with my state, Indiana. We're still racking up positive cases but our death toll is staying extremely low now.

Are AZ schools in session?

Schools were supposed to start taking students, but that's been pushed back - in some districts all the teachers called in sick to prevent it. So it's all remote, at present.

Maybe my view is very narrow, but I've talked to restaurant owners, and driven by some places that are bars with restaurant licenses. Bars that are open are doing huge business and there is no oversight, so to say that "bar closures" had anything to do with AZ's numbers is false. This is what has me vexed - bars are open, cases are dropping, authorities tout the closure of bars for the decline. They are either lying, or have no idea why cases are dropping, and just want the credit.

 

[Simply Southern]

But if that's all they did in Melbourne, or Auckland, they'd have thousands of cases per day, by now. This just seems like something really big is being missed, somewhere. A single security guard put millions into lockdown in Australia, but people have been congregating in AZ bars (and trust me, there's no distancing or masks once people pass through the door) and cases are dropping like a stone. And it's not just fiddling with the results - hospitalization has cratered, as well. It's like it all just "stopped" and no one seems interested in why. I find it very bizarre.

Moo...

• Good news rarely sells. Cases are declining daily in the US, but rarely do we see this reported. When cases increase its front page news.
• CDC send teams into AZ to target counties with high positivity rate.
• Bars open, YUP, but these folks may not experience symptoms or they may be mild. They may experience mild symptoms and put it off as a hangover, staying up to late and partying. Young folks don't want to test, quarantine messes up going out, partying and puts a stop to fun.
• Hospital admissions could be down due to younger population with less complications.

These are just thoughts. After searching media I can't find one single article for why cases are down, in any of the states reporting declines. But one things for use hospitals can't fudge the number of admissions, required to be sent to HHS daily. The admission report controls the disbursement of emergency drugs and plasma.

 

[Rose in SC]

SOUTH CAROLINA Update - Tuesday, August 18
Wish that darn 'percent positive' would stay down!!

SC announces 691 new COVID-19 cases, 47 more deaths Tuesday

106,574 confirmed positive cases (+691)
2,230 confirmed deaths (+47)

Percent Positive - 18.6%

SC Testing Data & Projections (COVID-19) | SCDHEC

 

[MimosaMornings]

Nearly 1 million Americans plan to fly to Florida over Labor Day weekend. An epidemiologist warns they could undo efforts to contain COVID-19 just before schools reopen.

• “About 6 million Americans plan to fly this Labor Day Weekend, according to data from travel management app TripIt, and compared with TSA figures from 2019.
• That's far below 2019 numbers, but an unusually high proportion of those who have decided to fly are headed to Florida, Arizona, Nevada, and the Caribbean, all of which are struggling to rein in the COVID-19 pandemic
• An epidemiologist says we're at a critical stage in the pandemic, and that coronavirus outbreaks linked to travel could undo the progress that's been made just as schools are set to reopen.”

 

[10ofRods]

Moo...

• Good news rarely sells. Cases are declining daily in the US, but rarely do we see this reported. When cases increase its front page news.
• CDC send teams into AZ to target counties with high positivity rate.
• Bars open, YUP, but these folks may not experience symptoms or they may be mild. They may experience mild symptoms and put it off as a hangover, staying up to late and partying. Young folks don't want to test, quarantine messes up going out, partying and puts a stop to fun.
• Hospital admissions could be down due to younger population with less complications.

These are just thoughts. After searching media I can't find one single article for why cases are down, in any of the states reporting declines. But one things for use hospitals can't fudge the number of admissions, required to be sent to HHS daily. The admission report controls the disbursement of emergency drugs and plasma.

Those are really great points.

Deaths and cases are down in the past 3-4 days in the US. This is after waiting for various data corrections, etc. Still down. In fact, deaths are way down. And new cases are significantly down - which is great news.

It's alarming to see which states are still carrying a larger load of the cases, but even California has come down significantly. Missouri, OTOH, is struggling.

Those studies showing as many as 50% of some populations having antibodies are intriguing. I believe there was one in Canada and another on the East Coast.

 

[MimosaMornings]

SOUTH CAROLINA Update - Tuesday, August 18
Wish that darn 'percent positive' would stay down!!

SC announces 691 new COVID-19 cases, 47 more deaths Tuesday

106,574 confirmed positive cases (+691)
2,230 confirmed deaths (+47)

Percent Positive - 18.6%

SC Testing Data & Projections (COVID-19) | SCDHEC

I don’t want to think about the upcoming Labor Day holiday weekend at the coast.

 

[margarita25]

CDC:
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Care for Children
Updated Aug. 17, 2020

Summary of Recent Changes
Revisions were made on August 14, 2020 to reflect new evidence about COVID-19 in children.

 

[Simply Southern]

I don’t want to think about the upcoming Labor Day holiday weekend at the coast.

If you look at CDC, you can see the pattern of cases increase after Memorial Day and July 4. There is a define pattern.

The cases are almost at the bottom the page, nice graft.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Nearly 1 million Americans plan to fly to Florida over Labor Day weekend. An epidemiologist warns they could undo efforts to contain COVID-19 just before schools reopen.

• “About 6 million Americans plan to fly this Labor Day Weekend, according to data from travel management app TripIt, and compared with TSA figures from 2019.
• That's far below 2019 numbers, but an unusually high proportion of those who have decided to fly are headed to Florida, Arizona, Nevada, and the Caribbean, all of which are struggling to rein in the COVID-19 pandemic
• An epidemiologist says we're at a critical stage in the pandemic, and that coronavirus outbreaks linked to travel could undo the progress that's been made just as schools are set to reopen.”

Why though?

Do they think Covid is a hoax? That it's gone? That it won't affect them?

Or do they just not care?

 

[tresir2012]

Texas newborn contracted coronavirus while in mother's womb: report

“A Texas newborn who contracted the novel coronavirus while in her mother’s womb is believed to be the first such case in the U.S., according to multiple reports.”


Texas Just Reported Its 10,000th Coronavirus Death

That baby doesn't look 6 weeks premature to me. She looks quite big and what a beautiful head of hair. MOO.

ETA ah I see the baby is 3 weeks old in the picture and it is the first time mum has held her.

 

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[tresir2012]

I'm in the same situation with my state, Indiana. We're still racking up positive cases but our death toll is staying extremely low now.

Are AZ schools in session?

I just saw the article upthread that mentions 43% could be effective for herd immunity. Are Az or In anywhere near that?

 

[LadyL]

Nearly 1 million Americans plan to fly to Florida over Labor Day weekend. An epidemiologist warns they could undo efforts to contain COVID-19 just before schools reopen.

• “About 6 million Americans plan to fly this Labor Day Weekend, according to data from travel management app TripIt, and compared with TSA figures from 2019.
• That's far below 2019 numbers, but an unusually high proportion of those who have decided to fly are headed to Florida, Arizona, Nevada, and the Caribbean, all of which are struggling to rein in the COVID-19 pandemic
• An epidemiologist says we're at a critical stage in the pandemic, and that coronavirus outbreaks linked to travel could undo the progress that's been made just as schools are set to reopen.”

unreal

 

[SouthAussie]

Schools were supposed to start taking students, but that's been pushed back - in some districts all the teachers called in sick to prevent it. So it's all remote, at present.

Maybe my view is very narrow, but I've talked to restaurant owners, and driven by some places that are bars with restaurant licenses. Bars that are open are doing huge business and there is no oversight, so to say that "bar closures" had anything to do with AZ's numbers is false. This is what has me vexed - bars are open, cases are dropping, authorities tout the closure of bars for the decline. They are either lying, or have no idea why cases are dropping, and just want the credit.

Well, you know what they say, dont look a gift horse in the mouth.

It could be a few things - older people staying home and protecting themselves, young asymptomatic people not getting tested, general testing lower, figures being distorted, AZ has reached its peak for now (and maybe for all time).

Restart of schools and/or winter coming could change things. Winter - and complacency - changed things for areas of Oz. It may be a wait-and-see situation.

 

[MrX]

Why though?

Do they think Covid is a hoax? That it's gone? That it won't affect them?

Or do they just not care?

Just speaking for myself, it's a combination of factors but it mostly comes down to Risk/Reward. Back in May I decided, for better or worse, that I wasn't going to put my life on hold for this. It's really that simple. So when it comes to Labor Day, I don't see it as a "one off" event - it's just the end of a summer that started with Memorial Day and included 4th of July.

I know everyone approaches this differently, but I see many questions asking why people do thus and such and, as one of those people, I thought I'd try to shed some light.

 

[Satchie]

But if that's all they did in Melbourne, or Auckland, they'd have thousands of cases per day, by now. This just seems like something really big is being missed, somewhere. A single security guard put millions into lockdown in Australia, but people have been congregating in AZ bars (and trust me, there's no distancing or masks once people pass through the door) and cases are dropping like a stone. And it's not just fiddling with the results - hospitalization has cratered, as well. It's like it all just "stopped" and no one seems interested in why. I find it very bizarre.

I don't think it's correct to say the numbers in Arizona, for eg, 'cratered'. The graphs show a sharp increase in daily cases from late May to early July, when a sense of crisis set in. From that point, it has been a slower but steady decrease in daily cases and deaths. But the numbers are still double what they were in May. Arizona Coronavirus: 194,920 Cases and 4,529 Deaths (COVID-19 ) - Worldometer

I think the population got the message and people who are vulnerable or worried have voluntarily adopted more rigorous social distancing, masks and hand washing. The people who crowd into bars aren't the ones who are most at risk from illness and death. I think the two types of people don't interact much.

 

[LadyL]

great interview IMO

Pandemic denial: Why some people can't accept Covid-19's realities - CNN