Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #76

[SouthAussie]

So, this is how Australia counts our covid deaths.


In Australian states and territories, like countries across the world, the COVID-19 death figures being reported daily are hospital cases where a person dies with the coronavirus infection in their body given it is a notifiable disease in which all cases must be reported.

SARS-CoV-2, the virus which causes COVID-19, could be the major cause of death, a contributory factor or simply an infection present when a person dies of another medical condition.

"Realistically, what we need is good data analysing the number of people who have died with COVID. We know that coronavirus is undoubtedly contributing to their death, but is it a 10 per cent contribution, a 90 per cent contribution or 100 per cent compared to their underlying disease? We can't say that with any accuracy yet."

Gathering this detailed data would take months, or even years, Professor Collignon said.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/vic...a-s-youngest-covid-death-20200828-p55q89.html

 

[CSIDreamer]

So, this is how Australia counts our covid deaths.


In Australian states and territories, like countries across the world, the COVID-19 death figures being reported daily are hospital cases where a person dies with the coronavirus infection in their body given it is a notifiable disease in which all cases must be reported.

SARS-CoV-2, the virus which causes COVID-19, could be the major cause of death, a contributory factor or simply an infection present when a person dies of another medical condition.

"Realistically, what we need is good data analysing the number of people who have died with COVID. We know that coronavirus is undoubtedly contributing to their death, but is it a 10 per cent contribution, a 90 per cent contribution or 100 per cent compared to their underlying disease? We can't say that with any accuracy yet."

Gathering this detailed data would take months, or even years, Professor Collignon said.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/vic...a-s-youngest-covid-death-20200828-p55q89.html

People who die at home aren't counted?

 

[Clair Louise]

People who die at home aren't counted?

That would be unusual.

 

[303gmf]

Yes it was negative. Honestly I had a UTI go bad on me. I did not know these symptoms were UTI. Now I know.

Not guessing your age of course but an FYI to all: A untreated uti can cause dementia and almost psychotic like behavior in the elderly

 

[SouthAussie]

People who die at home aren't counted?

I am sure they are. When a person dies at home an autopsy is usually required here. To explain the how and why.

Unless the person has very recently been sent home to die, by their own choice, of cancer.

 

[303gmf]

IMO-I actually think the new cases are so high because the college students are back and are not social distancing and were out at the bars (thus the bars are now closing for a month in the counties where the major universities are and nearby. I'm going to post shortly about that and new college numbers. University of Iowa is not good.

Kansas State as well, sororities having outbreaks, football players, bars crowded and no masks

 

[Clair Louise]

Not guessing your age of course but an FYI to all: A untreated uti can cause dementia and almost psychotic like behavior in the elderly

And often antibiotic resistant. A low grade UTI can go undetected for some time.

 

[24Roses]

Late Iowa news: State is under reporting the positive rate of COVID-19 tests
I really don't understand what an antigen test is, but apparently IDPH hasn't been reporting them for months. I guess I thought it was just a test with quicker results than the PCR test. I'm very confused.

 

[mickey2942]

I am sure they are. When a person dies at home an autopsy is usually required here. To explain the how and why.

Unless the person has very recently been sent home to die, by their own choice, of cancer.

Not here. Person dies at home. Shrug, whatever. Get a wagon. They skip the autopsy. Don't believe me? Check the thread about JJ and Tylee. Chad Daybell's wife, Tammy, died at home, they buried her without an autopsy. Happens all of the time here.

 

[ilovewings]

And often antibiotic resistant. A low grade UTI can go undetected for some time.

three years ago i went to the ER with a very fast heart rate: they could not get it under control and i was admitted to the hospital. I was diagnosed with atrial fibrillation. During that hospitalization i had a urine test which showed a UTI which had developed into sepsis. Sepsis can cause atrial fibrillation. I had no symptoms of a UTI and have no idea how long i had it. I was fortunate that IV antibiotics were effective and I was released from the hospital after 6 days.

 

[LadyL]

Yes, me too. I think all of the sterilising that we are doing and all of the social distancing, as well, is likely going to bring our general resistance level down.

oh great
we just can't win

 

[LadyL]

Staring Down a Permanent Last Call, Arizona Bars Mount a Protest at the Capitol

"Drinkers belong in bars,” she said. “Restaurants want us to take our people back. They're 86ing people out of Olive Garden." I read that line, in the print edition, at lunch today and almost fell off my bar stool!

I noticed that a dive bar, near here, is open today. This place has no kitchen, so I'd love to see how they are now a "restaurant."

offering beer nuts?

 

[SouthAussie]

Late Iowa news: State is under reporting the positive rate of COVID-19 tests
I really don't understand what an antigen test is, but apparently IDPH hasn't been reporting them for months. I guess I thought it was just a test with quicker results than the PCR test. I'm very confused.

An antigen is just a quicker test. And the positive results are considered accurate, it is the negative results that could be inaccurate, according to the Mayo Clinic.


Antigen test. This COVID-19 test detects certain proteins in the virus. Using a nasal or throat swab to get a fluid sample, antigen tests can produce results in minutes. Because these tests are faster and less expensive than PCR tests, antigen tests may be more practical to use for large numbers of people. A positive antigen test result is considered very accurate, but there's an increased chance of false-negative results — meaning it's possible to be infected with the virus but have a negative result.
Here's what you need to know about COVID-19 testing.

 

[musicaljoke]

oh great
we just can't win

You can get a vaccination. Is there something that you might be due for?

 

[Clair Louise]

Not here. Person dies at home. Shrug, whatever. Get a wagon. They skip the autopsy. Don't believe me? Check the thread about JJ and Tylee. Chad Daybell's wife, Tammy, died at home, they buried her without an autopsy. Happens all of the time here.

BBM
That shocked me. Here, even if the person is very elderly if they have not been seen by a doctor within a time frame and the cause of death is not immediately evident, a post mortem examination is required.

 

[Trino]

When this virus is over, I've decided there are quite a few people I can live without.

 

[10ofRods]

Late Iowa news: State is under reporting the positive rate of COVID-19 tests
I really don't understand what an antigen test is, but apparently IDPH hasn't been reporting them for months. I guess I thought it was just a test with quicker results than the PCR test. I'm very confused.

Antigens are traces of your body's struggle against CoVid; remnants of the toxin that caused your body to produce antibodies. So, evidence that you've had CoVid recently but were not diagnosed while it was still active.

I don't think most places are combining those numbers at this point in time, but it does show a better sense of the rate of CoVid, if that's what is wanted.

 

[Clair Louise]

Antigens are traces of your body's struggle against CoVid; remnants of the toxin that caused your body to produce antibodies. So, evidence that you've had CoVid recently but were not diagnosed while it was still active.

I don't think most places are combining those numbers at this point in time, but it does show a better sense of the rate of CoVid, if that's what is wanted.

And reporting those cases has no purpose. They are not going to spread it and that is the intent of reporting active cases, isn't it?
I have a problem with people wanting to know how many people did not get sick from it and want it reported. It is like they want reported all the people who did not die of traffic accidents.

 

[SouthAussie]

And reporting those cases has no purpose. They are not going to spread it and that is the intent of reporting active cases, isn't it?
I have a problem with people wanting to know how many people did not get sick from it and want it reported. It is like they want reported all the people who did not die of traffic accidents.

Perhaps there are a few ways of using antigen tests? And perhaps they are used for different purposes in different places (I understand what 10ofRods is saying in the above post).

Our TGA says that they are a rapid test for covid - and can be used for testing symptomatic patients. Not a gold standard (PCR) test which detects the virus in asymptomatic patients as well.

I know in the US, a friend of mine (who made the long trip back to the US from Australia) had a PCR test when he got back to the US. Negative. Then a few weeks later had an antigen test - to see if he had ever had the virus - also negative.

COVID-19 testing in Australia - information for health professionals

 

[mickey2942]

When this virus is over, I've decided there are quite a few people I can live without.

My social circle now consists of two people. Easier for contact tracing.