Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #77

[LadyL]

WOW-- looking at that list causes me sadness-- it is just awful

Bed Bath & Body is one of my favourite stores ever

 

[Cool Cats]

September 4, 2020, 9:43 AM EDT

A second COVID-19 wave in Spain holds a warning for U.S.

3 Sep, 2020 @ 10:00
THE numbers don’t lie… for the past few days Spain has been registering upwards of 8,000 cases of COVID-19 every 24 hours.

LISTED: The towns in Spain which have reverted to lockdown measures to fight COVID-19, including in Malaga - Olive Press News Spain

 

[ilovewings]

Bed Bath & Body is one of my favourite stores ever

me too!!!!

 

[Bravo]

me too!!!!

Me three

 

[Cool Cats]

Minivans at the Food Pantry: Meet America's New Needy

September 4, 2020, 8:08 AM EDT

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[musicaljoke]

I was going to share our school's reopening guidelines, for anyone who is interested, but when I went to check the protocol, I see it's a 20 page book!

Some of the basics are ..
~Everyone wears a mask indoors, kindergarten students may wear a face shield and everyone needs to have spares in case they get wet
~School will provide individual plastic storage containers for masks during lunch and recess
~School begins anytime after 8:30 when the student arrives. There are no waiting areas or lineups
~BYO food and water
~Staggered recess and washroom
~No access to lockers, so hang coats up on the back of the desk
~Screening at/before admission into the school
~No visitors or parents in the school (essential services only)
~Class cohort stays together

and enough more to fill 20 pages.

 

[musicaljoke]

https://moneywise.com/a/chains-closing-the-most-stores-in-2020

That's a significant list. I wonder if the days of shopping in person are coming to an end, or if these stores are just cutting their losses, paying out their leases and waiting it out until they can come back. I have a sad hunch that personal shopping will phase out in the next few years. It's just too expensive to be able to compete with online shopping.

Yeah, I'm really sad to see this. Local markets will likely see some benefit as some people reject cheap imports and mass produced articles.
imo

 

[musicaljoke]

Oh no. That's double the deaths linked to Sturgis. This Maine wedding also has 68 jail cases connected to it as an attendee works at the jail IIRC.

Are you relying on the Sturgis stats from reading news articles alone? CoVid acquired at Sturgis is the same virus that is spread at weddings, and is circulating in exactly the same way.

 

[SouthAussie]

That's a significant list. I wonder if the days of shopping in person are coming to an end, or if these stores are just cutting their losses, paying out their leases and waiting it out until they can come back. I have a sad hunch that personal shopping will phase out in the next few years. It's just too expensive to be able to compete with online shopping.

Yeah, I'm really sad to see this. Local markets will likely see some benefit as some people reject cheap imports and mass produced articles.
imo

My DD and I went out to dinner last night at a seating-spaced restaurant just outside a mall. We decided to walk the closed mall several times afterwards (she needed more steps for her 10,000 daily step fitbit goal ).
It wasn't too bad inside. A handful of stores had closed, two that surprised me. Still a great majority open though ... including the two major stores that are the 'seat' of the mall.

Apparently, the ones who are closed have been closed by mall management due to their inability to pay rent.
We, too, are online shopping massively. Even though the risk of infection here is so much lower than many other places, I think it is a general worldwide mindset of staying as safe as possible, no matter what.

Lots and lots of people here do click-and-collect, so I wonder if that is helping these storefronts to stay open.

 

[Sundog]

I can see where the parents would need convincing.... but it just seems to make the most sense--knowing that their child is getting care as needed, and not coming home to spread the virus.

We do have parents who just show up at the res hall that is quarantine/isolation only, so no visitors whatsoever. And unless the student signs a release that we can provide health/medical information to his/her parents, we can't do so, due to HIPPA laws. Same with information on grades, behavior on campus, etc., but this is covered by FERPA laws.
But most students will sign the HIPPA release so that their parents know what is going on.

 

[Trino]

No.
Possibly, but not at large scale.
No.

ha ha ha...no links required!

I have a friend from Pittsburgh (Salk's stompin grounds), who got early polio vaccines in the 50s, still got polio, and still suffers today.
And then there is the Thalidomine story... oy vey.

I will gladly live with my slightly less active social life to wait and watch.

Both my husband and I agree it's gonna be best to wait a bit. If first responders get it first (hospital, police, fire, etc.), it probably will take a while before it's offered to the general population anyway.

Most likely, according to the surgeon general, it will be a no-go by October.
Improbable that vaccine will be ready by October: Surgeon General

 

[weepingangel]

Massachusetts
More at link
Northeastern University dismisses 11 first-year students following gathering at Westin Hotel

Eleven first-year students have been dismissed by Northeastern University after there were found gathered together in a room at the Westin Hotel in Boston, violating Northeastern and public health protocols amid the coronavirus pandemic, according to the university.

The students were told to leave the Westin. Additionally, the students must have a coronavirus test taken at Northeastern, the university announced.

Though the students have been dismissed for the fall, they will be able to contest their dismissal at an expedited hearing, according to the university.

Last month, Northeastern officials said that any students who host or attend large parties during the pandemic will face expulsion from the school.

(their parents must be thrilled )

 

[MrX]

My DD and I went out to dinner last night at a seating-spaced restaurant just outside a mall. We decided to walk the closed mall several times afterwards (she needed more steps for her 10,000 daily step fitbit goal ).
It wasn't too bad inside. A handful of stores had closed, two that surprised me. Still a great majority open though ... including the two major stores that are the 'seat' of the mall.

Apparently, the ones who are closed have been closed by mall management due to their inability to pay rent.
We, too, are online shopping massively. Even though the risk of infection here is so much lower than many other places, I think it is a general worldwide mindset of staying as safe as possible, no matter what.

Lots and lots of people here do click-and-collect, so I wonder if that is helping these storefronts to stay open.

I think a lot of places were on their last legs and this just hurried it along. We have several malls in Phoenix that either closed or are closing. Weekly alternative paper recently did a piece on an iconic one and said that the decline had been going on for quite a while. It seems like people took quite a while to trust online shopping, but now they won't go back. Still odd to buy some things with out seeing them - we have a friend that bought a car on Carvana and was texting people today asking for a ride. Turns out she bought a car she had never been in and discovered she hates it!

 

[tresir2012]

Are you relying on the Sturgis stats from reading news articles alone? CoVid acquired at Sturgis is the same virus that is spread at weddings, and is circulating in exactly the same way.

Where else but news articles would we get the figures from? I'm a bit confused by your post and your description of the virus. Of course it's the same virus and spreads the same way. Except 450,000 went to Sturgis and considerably less went to the Maine wedding.

 

[SouthAussie]

I think a lot of places were on their last legs and this just hurried it along. We have several malls in Phoenix that either closed or are closing. Weekly alternative paper recently did a piece on an iconic one and said that the decline had been going on for quite a while. It seems like people took quite a while to trust online shopping, but now they won't go back. Still odd to buy some things with out seeing them - we have a friend that bought a car on Carvana and was texting people today asking for a ride. Turns out she bought a car she had never been in and discovered she hates it!

Google must be making a fortune. Though even that may be reducing.

One of my clients runs a Google ad to draw people to the website. We like to be among the top 1-3 ads for that industry, to stay at the top of the search page, and pay $4,000-$6,000 each month for this advertising. Each click on the website - via the Google ad - costs money. If you have a lot of competitors in that arena, a click can cost about $25. Due to the pandemic each click has been costing about $8 - as competitors have been reducing or ceasing their advertising spend.

I can't imagine how competitive this is in the retail market (this client is in a service industry). If a retail outlet cannot afford the online advertising, it likely would just continue the downward spiral for them. And other companies - like my client - are reaping the benefit.

 

[Simply Southern]

Probably because the CDC already developed those policies while he was Director for all those years, and through 3 pandemics. imo

I found it interesting. Sorry that you didn't.

We've had the same base line infection control recommendations from CDC for at least 40 years, I've been in HC. Oh, many precautions have been added, as we developed new infections. HIV, we had a world wide rubber/latex glove shortage, when it was released transmission could occur from blood/body fluids, comparable to mask shortages.

The CDC Pandemic Plan, provided guidance to states and localities on what and how to plan for a pandemic. Each state and locality was required to have a plan. I participated in the one for my county, talked about it in early threads. I knew what we had written on paper was not even going to come close to what needed to happen if we had a massive local outbreak. First we had about 20 boxes of PEE, the mask had expired 3 years ago, buildings we planned to use for emergency hospital had deteriorated over the years, many of the volunteer s are now to old and have health conditions and couldn't help.

Yea, the CDC was a guideance for the states to prepare, and each county or city.

The federal government Pandemic Plan was to be responsible for NG, military medical corp support, setting up hospitals, research, test, vaccines, and assistance to states.

To work efficiently all three had to be prepared.

Moo....

 

[SouthAussie]

Oh I see lol. Two different stories going on. The OP you replied to was referencing another issue. Sorry.

No worries. I was just looking at the post that neesaki quoted. If it was political, I am really not following the internal politics to any great degree. I would just like to see 3rd November come and go, so the primary focus can get back on getting rid of the pandemic. So the whole world can resume some sort of normalcy. And maybe some international travel to visit family and friends can start happening again (selfish reason ).

 

[SouthAussie]

Continued virus spread around the world ... Russia is not flat-lining yet. Wonder how their vaccine rollout is doing, and its efficacy.


A children's inflammatory illness associated with COVID-19 has emerged in Australia. Here's what we know

 

[SouthAussie]

Former Cook Island PM dies in NZ's second wave (now they have had 2 covid deaths in NZ).

New Zealand's Finance Minister Grant Robertson said on Twitter that Williams was "such an influential leader in the Cook Island community, and in the health sector in general".

"Deeply respected, my thoughts and aroha are with his family, friends and community," Robertson said.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/cor...death-toll-stands-at-737-20200904-p55siv.html

 

[Rose in SC]

Same ol' stuff going on here in South Carolina - and this is BEFORE the long holiday weekend:

SC announces 1,511 new cases of COVID-19 and 37 more deaths Friday

121,378 confirmed positive cases (+1,511)

2,706 confirmed deaths (+37)

"Total Tests Received" - 1,046,613
Percent Positive - 18.3%

SC Testing Data & Projections (COVID-19) | SCDHEC