Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #77

[SouthAussie]

The US developed an overall plan from the beginning. The notification to states will start the fine detail process. Sure states will be required to collect, identify certain populations of people by city and location. Locals will need to secure medical personnel, buildings to be used, etc. At least one if not more of the vaccines must be kept at an extremely low temperature, requiring refrigeration or freezing for stability and effectiveness. Not sure this will initially be a vaccine we can get at a physician office or clinic.

The states have alot of work to prepare, cities, long term care facilities, as well. I'm sure we will face challenges, we will be the first free world nation to administer a vaccine. I read initial phase have 30-70 million doses.

Moo...

Oh ... moo. So, no links to read?

 

[weepingangel]

COVID-19 Cluster in New Hampshire Linked to Youth Hockey Camp
More at link
A cluster of COVID-19 cases in New Hampshire is being linked to a youth hockey camp that was held in Nashua, according to the Department of Health and Human Services.

Thirteen people connected to the camp tested positive and three of them are young students in Bedford, health officials said.

 

[tresir2012]

Australia is contributing to an arm of Covax called COVAX AMC (as some other countries are also, including Canada, Italy and the UK). It is a financial arm of Covax that makes sure the developing countries get affordable quantities of any vaccine. Our contributons are concentrating on the Pacific Islands and South East Asia, probably because they are in our general region.

Government pledges $80m to help ensure poorer countries can access COVID-19 vaccine

This will help immensely. I think the excess that UK has pre purchased (and likely US too ) will very likely be donated. My view is NH should take precedence due to our impending winter. AJMO.

 

[tresir2012]

Oh ... moo. So, no links to read?

Mine that I just added will probably cover it.

 

[tresir2012]

COVID-19 Cluster in New Hampshire Linked to Youth Hockey Camp
More at link
A cluster of COVID-19 cases in New Hampshire is being linked to a youth hockey camp that was held in Nashua, according to the Department of Health and Human Services.

Thirteen people connected to the camp tested positive and three of them are young students in Bedford, health officials said.

"Health officials said four adults and nine players who participated in the five-day private camp caught the virus.

"We closed for like two days," said Hailee Re who works at Conway Arena.

She said there are protocols in place to keep guests safe. There's no public skating right now, people have to wear masks, and they're cleaning the facility often, according to Re.

"It's all a risk," she said. "If you're going to send your kids, you have to think about it."

In Bedford, the three student-athletes who got sick go to three different elementary schools, health officials said."

Hmm. I wonder if the adults spread it to the kids?

 

[tresir2012]

Covid transmission within schools detected

Health officials have found evidence of coronavirus spreading in two high schools in Glasgow.

The health board has not named the schools but said there was evidence of transmission of the virus "amongst a small number of cases".

It said the situation was being "carefully managed" and monitored and control measures had been put in place.

Meanwhile, contact tracing is taking place at Hutchesons Grammar School and Lochend Community High School.

Previously, officials said the virus was not being spread in schools and any positive cases were linked to community clusters.

So they are not naming the two schools that have it but name the two schools where contact tracing is taking place. I guess we can put 2 and 2 together perhaps.

Again I wonder if adults spread it to kids as they are saying it was linked to community clusters. Are they testing teachers at all?

 

[SouthAussie]

Mine that I just added will probably cover it.

No, thanks anyway. Your links speak about the development of the vaccines, testing, financials, and some countries pledge to distribute.

I was more interested in reading about the kind of detail that Simply Southern has in the opinions in post #407.

 

[SouthAussie]

This will help immensely. I think the excess that UK has pre purchased (and likely US too ) will very likely be donated. My view is NH should take precedence due to our impending winter. AJMO.

Well, seeing how parts of the NH did during summer, I am quite happy to see any vaccine equally distributed around the world.

China just sent a plane load of people to Solomon Islands. Many on Solomon Islands are furious, they have been covid free and are hoping to stay that way - likely until there is no longer a pandemic.

Chinese charter flight to COVID-free Solomon Islands fuels independence cries

 

[tresir2012]

No, thanks anyway. Your links speak about the development of the vaccines, testing, financials, and some countries pledge to distribute.

I was more interested in reading about the kind of detail that Simply Southern has in the opinions in post #407.

I have also posted the CDC rollout link upthread too or are you wanting to see specific state guidance? Not sure they will have that yet though. Unless they just follow existing vaccine rollout guidance. It was all done with H1N1 and SS posted a lot of specific info on that upthread.

ETA the first link I posted was about Operation Warp Speed.

ETA2 I linked the 6 day old CDC consultation document in post 368.

 

[tresir2012]

Well, seeing how parts of the NH did during summer, I am quite happy to see any vaccine equally distributed around the world.

China just sent a plane load of people to Solomon Islands. Many on Solomon Islands are furious, they have been covid free and are hoping to stay that way - likely until there is no longer a pandemic.

Chinese charter flight to COVID-free Solomon Islands fuels independence cries

Has Australia pre purchased any vaccines?

Re the Solomon Islands, they are setting up a Chinese Embassy there so it would entail Chinese people going to the island. They could all be tested though.

 

[SouthAussie]

Has Australia pre purchased any vaccines?

Agreement (Letter of Intent) with AstraZeneca to supply - develop, produce, and distribute - the Oxford vaccine.

"The project could deliver the first vaccines by the end of this year or by early 2021."
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...ford-vaccine-if-it-works-20200818-p55mz7.html

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-08-australia-virus-vaccine-free-citizens.html

We also have two of our own vaccines - a Qld one and a South Australian one - in Phase Two testing stages.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I was just watching The Today Show and Dwayne Johnson, also known as The Rock, was saying that he had a message because he got coronavirus from his close family and friends. He said to everyone if you are going to have family or friends over, make sure they get tested the day before they come to your house.

Hello! Hello! Normal people can't get tested and get the results within 12 hours.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

So they are not naming the two schools that have it but name the two schools where contact tracing is taking place. I guess we can put 2 and 2 together perhaps.

Again I wonder if adults spread it to kids as they are saying it was linked to community clusters. Are they testing teachers at all?

IMO they're the same schools and IMO yes, they are testing teachers.

 

[tresir2012]

Agreement (Letter of Intent) with AstraZeneca to supply - develop, produce, and distribute - the Oxford vaccine.

"The project could deliver the first vaccines by the end of this year or by early 2021."
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...ford-vaccine-if-it-works-20200818-p55mz7.html

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-08-australia-virus-vaccine-free-citizens.html

We also have two of our own vaccines - a Qld one and a South Australian one - in Phase Two testing stages.

So you will be manufacturing the Oxford vaccine yourself under licence once the trials are over. Have any preparations been made for that?

This link states it could be a couple of months for the manufacturing to produce the vaccine so it looks like it won't be till 2021 for Australia. It also states it will probably be mandatory.

Coronavirus vaccine: Australia secures access to Oxford-AstraZeneca trial

"If this vaccine proves successful, we will manufacture and supply vaccines straight away under our own steam and make it free for 25 million Australians," Mr Morrison said.
The cost of supplying the vaccine to the whole population has not yet been fixed. Separately, Australia has also signed a deal worth A$25m (£13.5m; $18m) with Becton Dickinson, an American pharmaceutical company, to supply 100 million needles and syringes.
The deal with AstraZeneca is Australia's first such vaccine agreement.
If trials were successful, Mr Morrison said he hoped the vaccine would be available early next year. Manufacturing it would require an additional few months.
Would it be mandatory?
Mr Morrison said he expected a successful vaccine would be "as mandatory as you could possibly make it", though his government was still forming its policy.
"There are always exemptions for any vaccine on medical grounds, but that should be the only basis," he told radio station 3AW.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I wish we collectively knew of some way to help you.

I can't speak for Hong Kong, but I do know that you guys here have helped me since January by having somebody to talk to. Folks that understand and have researched versus only done mainstream Media stuff. Folks that have listened to dr. Campbell and medcram stuff. Folks that are more educated than most. Folks that share recipes, folks that share concerns and scares. Folks that just understand our apprehension when we can't share it with family or friends because they think we have tin foil hats.

Again, I am just speaking for myself, but if it wasn't for you guys I would not have this support anywhere else in my life. So thank you for everybody that posts.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I wish we collectively knew of some way to help you.

I can't speak for Hong Kong, but I do know that you guys here have helped me since January by having somebody to talk to. Folks that understand and have researched versus only done mainstream Media stuff. Folks that have listened to dr. Campbell and medcram stuff. Folks that are more educated than most. Folks that share recipes, folks that share concerns and scares. Folks that just understand our apprehension when we can't share it with family or friends because they think we have tin foil hats.

Again, I am just speaking for myself, but if it wasn't for you guys I would not have this support anywhere else in my life. So thank you for everybody that posts.

April 17th:

Trump: " .... But we did a lot of work, and the people of this country were incredible, I have to say. And I think we’re heading to the other category, and that would be if we did work and if it was successful, they had between 100,000 and 220,000 to 240,000 on the upside. And I think we’ll be substantially, hopefully, below the hundred number. And I think, right now, we’re heading at probably around 60-, maybe 65,000."

Remarks by President Trump, Vice President Pence, and Members of the Coronavirus Task Force in Press Briefing | April 17, 2020 | The White House

Trump projects overall novel coronavirus death toll in US at 60,000-65,000

Thank you for going back to finding that projection. That's what I recall also.

But one thing I recall from the beginning is that the projections only went through July or perhaps August.

 

[tresir2012]

A BBC article about no-mask Nancy Pelosi, the Leader of the House.

Nancy Pelosi breaks rules with hair salon visit

I posted an article about this yesterday but this is more detailed as she is now blaming the salon.

????

I went to my hairdresser for the first time in 6 months as soon as they were legally allowed to open and posted about it on here. Mask on for a total of 4 hours while my hair was coloured, cut, blow-dried and straightened. The stylist had a mask and a face shield and I also had a disposable gown. Now this is just not on that she has flouted the rules and is actually now blaming the salon owner. WTHO !!!!!

Especially after all the lecturing and posturing she can still get her hair done, and even though she is in the over 70 category most at risk, she flouts the rules.

Does she know something that we don't? Eg that only 6% have died of Covid (under 10k ) and the rest had Covid as a contributing cause, as recently linked on here via the CDC, or is she maybe taking a prophylactic? Why would she take a risk like that?

MOO

 

[katydid23]

From the New York Times newsletter today:
"Here’s a jarring thought experiment: If the United States had done merely an average job of fighting the coronavirus — if the U.S. accounted for the same share of virus deaths as it did global population — how many fewer Americans would have died?

The answer: about 145,000.

That’s a large majority of the country’s 183,000 confirmed coronavirus-related deaths.

No other country looks as bad by this measure. The U.S. accounts for 4 percent of the world’s population, and for 22 percent of confirmed Covid-19 deaths. It is one of the many signs that the Trump administration has done a poorer job of controlling the virus than dozens of other governments around the world."

The New York Times is publishing a hit job, in my opinion. They are comparing what the president of a sprawling nation of 340 million people had to do compared to countries the size of our individual states.

The United States is not comparable to the situation in European countries. They were able to shut down their smaller nation's borders and stem the travel.

We cannot just close our state's borders in the same way a country can. we are so huge as a nation that it was much much harder to contain than it was in less populated, or smaller countries.

Every task is so much harder with a large population spread out in very large area.
Getting enough PPE and enough tests is a herculean effort.

We got the navy ships set up for hospital over flow but they were not needed. That was a tremendous effort.

MANY of our deaths occurred early on in the senior nursing centers, [60k deaths] ---where patients were sent, erroneously by various governors.

And we have essential 'freedoms' that make it much harder for authorities to control the population. That is a double edged sword but I wouldn't have it any other way.

 

[katydid23]

UK has slightly less than 1% of the world's population and 5% of the world's deaths. (41504 out of 857243). (UK is about .0088 of the world's population). So, same ratio as the US (5X as many deaths as would be proportionate to population).

So in very close proximity to the same rates as the US, unless we're quibbling over fractions of a percent. (US has 4.3% of world population).

Together, these two English-speaking nations constitute about 27% of the world's deaths, with just 5% of the world's population.

More has been written about CoVid in English than in any other language (it is the language of science, after all). Both nations think of themselves as modern. Compare to Canada or Australia and it's just mind-boggling.

Per capita, UK has more deaths than the US, which is another significant number. It's fine to criticize the US for its botched handling - we knew it was coming, did nothing to scale it down, etc, etc. But we are not exactly in this league all by ourselves. Belgium beats both the UK and the US.

COVID-19 deaths per capita by country | Statista

You want to compare us to Canada or Australia?

Are there any notable differences , geographically, or in population density, between the countries that might make it more difficult for the US in comparison?

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

FM warns that virus is spreading again in Scotland

Nicola Sturgeon has warned that coronavirus is spreading again in Scotland as she defended restrictions that have been imposed in the Glasgow area.

A further 101 cases have been confirmed in Scotland - 53 of them in the Greater Glasgow and Clyde health board area.

Ms Sturgeon said the transmission rate of the virus had increased slightly over the past week.

And she said doing nothing to stop the spread was not an option.

The first minister warned that the recent increase in cases "should be a wakeup call for all of us" in sticking to rules and helping to suppress the spread of Covid-19.