Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #78

[musicaljoke]

I hope the man that beat him up gets punished for being the crappy jerk he is. Do you have evidence of a diagnosed mental condition that I missed? He was charged with aggravated battery on a person over 65 and kidnapping.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article245682700.html

His behaviour is evidence, but as we all know, a professional psychologist would need to do an assessment.

Intermittent explosive disorder - Symptoms and causes

 

[10ofRods]

Australian students get a student allowance. I dont think that Australia should have to give foreign students an allowance to live.

I wasn't referring to that. I was referring to the mechanisms by which Australia makes money (off of tuition) for international students.

Australia is saying that its economy is taking a hard hit because international students bring in billions. Over $20B AUS, apparently.

'The international student market has collapsed'. What's next for Australian unis?

Some Australians (judging from opinion pieces) think the international students have done nothing for Australia and don't need to be there (apparently, the $20B is pocket change - whereas some analysts say it's a big part of what has pushed Australia into recession during the pandemic).

So, I am assuming (but asking) whether or not Chinese international students are funded by their parents, their workplaces (doubtful) or the government (likely). We don't get as many Chinese international students in the last 3 years, for various reasons - and Australia's number has gone up.

It's big business. It's a ton of money. It goes directly to support universities (who typically charge way higher rates to international students - many domestic students go for free or much lower tuition).

Nothing to do with living expenses, just asking about tuition and how Australia plans to keep its universities functioning at a high level with a missing $35B (the additional $15B is profit from sales of food plans and dorm rooms).

 

[Clair Louise]

I wasn't referring to that. I was referring to the mechanisms by which Australia makes money (off of tuition) for international students.

Australia is saying that its economy is taking a hard hit because international students bring in billions. Over $20B AUS, apparently.

'The international student market has collapsed'. What's next for Australian unis?

Some Australians (judging from opinion pieces) think the international students have done nothing for Australia and don't need to be there (apparently, the $20B is pocket change - whereas some analysts say it's a big part of what has pushed Australia into recession during the pandemic).

So, I am assuming (but asking) whether or not Chinese international students are funded by their parents, their workplaces (doubtful) or the government (likely). We don't get as many Chinese international students in the last 3 years, for various reasons - and Australia's number has gone up.

It's big business. It's a ton of money. It goes directly to support universities (who typically charge way higher rates to international students - many domestic students go for free or much lower tuition).

Nothing to do with living expenses, just asking about tuition and how Australia plans to keep its universities functioning at a high level with a missing $35B (the additional $15B is profit from sales of food plans and dorm rooms).

Parents and probably a Chinese student allowance, I think. Australia got the virus at the end of summer and most students had not started back at uni, then, so there were not that many students back in the country after the summer break.
I know that you were not talking about the support of students but that seems to be a criticism of Australia that has been posted several times.

 

[ilovewings]

His behaviour is evidence, but as we all know, a professional psychologist would need to do an assessment.

Intermittent explosive disorder - Symptoms and causes

How 'bout attempted murder?

 

[10ofRods]

We don't need travel insurance when we travel abroad, we have coverage through our health insurance policy, we just need receipts for any unanticipated (non-routine) medical care received, and a translation, if not in English. COVID is covered abroad as it is here in the US, they cover abroad whatever the policy covers domestically.

The only reason we get travel insurance is for medical evacuation coverage. I believe it would still be valid regardless of the cause of the need. Our insurance also covers medical expenses incurred abroad (we've never submitted because we could get an entire work-up, with prescriptions and bloodtests for under $100US while in France or Italy).

I've had too many friends and colleagues get weird diseases in faraway places.

At this point, of course, I can't travel to the sites where I do research anyway.

 

[10ofRods]

More sad news:

Air France-KLM's future in doubt without cost cuts - Dutch minister

Air France/KLM (which also codeshares with Delta) may go entirely under. The situation looks really dire.

I suppose these corporations can be reinvented by 2022 in some form. What a different world we're facing.

While the decreased number of airline flights resulted in far less carbon going into the air, I wonder if the fires out here in the West won't just make up for it...

Speaking of which, large numbers of Oregonians are either under mandatory evacuation orders or on the "get ready to go" list.

Fearing CoVid, many evacuees apparently bought tents (and are camping outside in parking lots and other areas near evacuation centers) rather than be housed in high school or college gyms, as is traditional. Worldwide demand for tents is up ( Emergency Tent Market – COVID-19 Impact Analysis with Global Countries Data, 2020 | Worldwide Industry Share, Market Size & Growth, Gross Margin, Trend, Future Demand, Analysis by Top Leading Player and Forecast Till 2026 – Scientect ) and apparently there are very few tents left for sale in Oregon.

Of course, the tent shortage is pretty much global. Lots of new uses for tents.

Covering the Nation from COVID Creates Tent Shortage | Business Up North

 

[10ofRods]

Parents and probably a Chinese student allowance, I think. Australia got the virus at the end of summer and most students had not started back at uni, then, so there were not that many students back in the country after the summer break.
I know that you were not talking about the support of students but that seems to be a criticism of Australia that has been posted several times.

Okay - I get why you said that. No, no criticism from me for Australia. It wouldn't be counting as $35B additional to the Australian economy if Australia were paying it.

I'm hoping someone who knows can weigh in on the Chinese government's role, because I know that it's governmental funds here in the US (although sometimes it's parents, the Chinese government sent a delegation to the college to check us out as part of their system of delivering students to us - back when that was happening).

China and Australia aren't on the best of terms right now, so I wonder if the money will come back even if the universities open. One article states that the international students are mostly still in Australia - but they may lose their status to stay if not in school (but they'll have to pay tuition).

4 out of 5 international students are still in Australia – how we treat them will have consequences

It's a really sad situation for the students.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Indiana reports 1 new death on 9/11.

ISDH - Novel Coronavirus: Indiana COVID-19 Dashboard

 

[tresir2012]

So maybe this idea was discussed prior and i missed it but has anyone given thought to cotton balls in ones nose, under a mask for added protection? Maybe I am losing my mind. A quick search netted this from 2004. Pre Covid so who knows if it would even be effective against Covid.
Nasal plugs for preventing respiratory infections - PubMed

Never heard of that but there was a heparin nasal spray that was mentioned previously. I'll see if I can find a link.

Here's a link to a study but it reads as if it caused bleeding from the nose. So maybe not good.

Intranasal Heparin Tolerability Study - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov

While searching, I found this article from India which discusses vaccines, Remdesivir, Dexamethasone, heparin and proning. Interesting article as it explains how those drugs and the treatment is so important at present.

COVID-19: ‘Vaccine No Panacea, Treatment And Contact Tracing Remain Important’

 

[katydid23]

So maybe this idea was discussed prior and i missed it but has anyone given thought to cotton balls in ones nose, under a mask for added protection? Maybe I am losing my mind. A quick search netted this from 2004. Pre Covid so who knows if it would even be effective against Covid.
Nasal plugs for preventing respiratory infections - PubMed

I would have a hard time breathing if my nose was plugged with cotton balls. I think I'd feel very uncomfortable very quickly.

JMO

 

[KALI]

I absolutely expect this in California as well.

Speaking of the economy. It appears a third (roughly 76,666) of NYC 230,000 small businesses may not reopen due to Covid. That's rough.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/11/broadway-has-335-vacant-storefronts-amid-rising-rents-covid-19/

 

[SouthAussie]

Let me just say that American students look longingly at Australia right now (as do we faculty) due to the awesome CoVid response. Unfortunately, it would take real effort to clear those same students for arrival in Australia - although it certainly could be done.

I suppose that Chinese students have constituted large numbers of the Australian international student community. That one will be quite the challenge to resolve. I also assume that Chinese students brought actual funds to pay tuition (probably provided by their government - but maybe not?)

There are a lot of wealthier Chinese people, believe it or not. Maybe they hold more esteemed positions in their community, not sure.

And a lot of our international students are from other countries ... eg: South Korea, Vietnam, Japan, India.

We think of some of these nations as poorer nations. The students who are sent here come from a reasonable degree of wealth. Their parents fly them back and forth during semester breaks. And the students get jobs (often in hospitality) to provide themselves with money while they are studying.

IMO

ETA: I agree, our relationship with China at the moment seems quite rocky. I imagine the returning students will be primarily from other countries ... unless we patch up the relationship. Or perhaps Chinese students being able to return will be part of patching up the relationship.
Two of our journos just fled China the other day (and 14 US journos were expelled back in March).
The future looks like Cold War 2.0 as a superpower cracks down

 

[CSIDreamer]

I absolutely expect this in California as well.

I own a small business on the side. I've been lucky I can just pause it. My heart literally aches for small business owners.

 

[CSIDreamer]

His behaviour is evidence, but as we all know, a professional psychologist would need to do an assessment.

Intermittent explosive disorder - Symptoms and causes

You cannot possibly diagnose anyone from one story, unless you know him. JMO

 

[ilovewings]

His behaviour is evidence, but as we all know, a professional psychologist would need to do an assessment.

Intermittent explosive disorder - Symptoms and causes

just because he beat some poor old man up does not necessarily
reflect a person with a mental illness-- lots of people commit crimes
who are evil

 

[mickey2942]

Goldman Sachs joins JPMorgan in announcing return to work after coronavirus office closures

This is interesting, and I can see that sooner or later, employees who don't come into work will be put on a different pay scale. Tier 1, Tier 2.

My friends who are working from home, because of childcare issues, are afraid that they will be considered "slackers", so they are literally putting in 60-80 hours of work at home. I have been going to work every day, and my production is 1/4 what some people are getting done from home. Of course, I have a lot of direct client contact, that they are not doing.

Two of my friends have quit work, because they are now doing full-time home schooling. And daycare costs, if you can find it, has skyrocketed. I bet that the birthrate may go down.

 

[Satchie]

Wow - how is this being addressed? It's not an easy one to solve. Looking forward to updates very much.

I saw a post by one guy forgoing his usual winter in Mexico, looking for a place on the west coast. Maybe there will be vacancies left by international students. On the other hand, many of the young digital work-from-anywhere nomads have come home.

All is in flux.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I saw a post by one guy forgoing his usual winter in Mexico, looking for a place on the west coast. Maybe there will be vacancies left by international students. On the other hand, many of the young digital work-from-anywhere nomads have come home.

All is in flux.

I wonder about extra motel/hotel rooms? But I don't live there so I dunno. JMO

 

[SouthAussie]

Trying to keep wildfire evacuees safe from the fires and from covid ......


Fearing one disaster will feed another, relief groups are putting some people who fled their homes during West Coast wildfires into hotels to reduce the spread of the coronavirus, stringing up shower curtains to separate people in group shelters and delivering box lunches instead of setting up buffets.

Large disaster response organisations like the American Red Cross are still operating some traditional shelters in gyms and churches, where they require masks, clean and disinfect often and try to keep evacuees at least two metres apart.

9NEWS LIVE BLOG: Coronavirus breaking news and updates

 

[Satchie]

I wonder about extra motel/hotel rooms? But I don't live there so I dunno. JMO

Some of those are being converted to house the homeless, perhaps they would vacate their rooms in exchange for a ticket and some cash to go waste away in Margaritaville.

Tongue in cheek: IMO, there are lifestyle choices and there is serious hardship. I'm sure people who can handle international travel will find solutions.