Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #79

[CSIDreamer]

Iowa numbers today: As of 10:00-11:00 a.m. today, we had 804 new confirmed cases for a total of 86,229 new confirmed cases of which 65,782 had recovered (+342). 4 more had passed away for a total of 1,315. Sept. 27: 804 new cases, 342 recoveries, and 4 deaths
Iowa COVID-19 Information

I'm just randomly bouncing off your post.

I wonder how recoveries are classified? Deduct positive casesxafter a couple of weeks? Jmo

 

[24Roses]

Iowa numbers today: As of 10:00-11:00 a.m. today, we had 804 new confirmed cases for a total of 86,229 new confirmed cases of which 65,782 had recovered (+342). 4 more had passed away for a total of 1,315. Sept. 27: 804 new cases, 342 recoveries, and 4 deaths
Iowa COVID-19 Information

I'm just randomly bouncing off your post.

I wonder how recoveries are classified? Deduct positive casesxafter a couple of weeks? Jmo

IIRC, the IDPH said something along the lines that they are not able to get in contact every positive person sometimes (they don't answer or get back to them), so unless the person is still in the hospital IMO after I almost want to say 28 days (that seems too long maybe) they consider them to be recovered. Again,all IMO and what I think I remember them saying.

 

[Sundog]

Grocery stores are now stockpiling – with “pandemic pallets” – getting ready for the second wave of COVID this fall.

Grocery stores, food producers beef up inventory for potential second wave of COVID-19, holiday shopping rush

According to the Wall Street Journal, Associated Food Stores has recently started building “pandemic pallets” to ensure cleaning and sanitizing products are readily available in its warehouses to prepare for high demand through the end of the year.

And seems that it might be harder to get those winter soups – and for those who like Goldfish crackers and Kettle potato chips might have to wait until after the Christmas holidays…

Meanwhile, Campbell's Soup CEO Mark Clouse said in the company's fourth-quarter earnings call that total inventory recovery is "about halfway done." He noted that the company is focused on stocking up on its soup brands as well as popular snacks like Pepperidge Farm Goldfish Crackers and Kettle and Cape Cod potato chips ahead of the winter season and that it will likely be fully restored within the first half of the year.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Grocery stores are now stockpiling – with “pandemic pallets” – getting ready for the second wave of COVID this fall.

Grocery stores, food producers beef up inventory for potential second wave of COVID-19, holiday shopping rush

According to the Wall Street Journal, Associated Food Stores has recently started building “pandemic pallets” to ensure cleaning and sanitizing products are readily available in its warehouses to prepare for high demand through the end of the year.

And seems that it might be harder to get those winter soups – and for those who like Goldfish crackers and Kettle potato chips might have to wait until after the Christmas holidays…

Meanwhile, Campbell's Soup CEO Mark Clouse said in the company's fourth-quarter earnings call that total inventory recovery is "about halfway done." He noted that the company is focused on stocking up on its soup brands as well as popular snacks like Pepperidge Farm Goldfish Crackers and Kettle and Cape Cod potato chips ahead of the winter season and that it will likely be fully restored within the first half of the year.

My granddaughter loves her Feesh crackers. We may have to stock up.

 

[Sundog]

My granddaughter loves her Feesh crackers. We may have to stock up.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Iowa numbers today: As of 10:00-11:00 a.m. today, we had 804 new confirmed cases for a total of 86,229 new confirmed cases of which 65,782 had recovered (+342). 4 more had passed away for a total of 1,315. Sept. 27: 804 new cases, 342 recoveries, and 4 deaths
Iowa COVID-19 Information

IIRC, the IDPH said something along the lines that they are not able to get in contact every positive person sometimes (they don't answer or get back to them), so unless the person is still in the hospital IMO after I almost want to say 28 days (that seems too long maybe) they consider them to be recovered. Again,all IMO and what I think I remember them saying.

28 days actually sounds reasonable.

 

[Sundog]

My granddaughter loves her Feesh crackers. We may have to stock up.

I read somewhere that popcorn inventory might be down, too, due to people staying home and watching Netflix. So something else to stock up on.

 

[10ofRods]

Not sure how I feel about this- depends on when they combined the dementia units & what type of pandemic plans were required by law at the time. This one should have its own thread imo. Tragic situation, but interesting case. Jmo

Apparently,

I'm just randomly bouncing off your post.

I wonder how recoveries are classified? Deduct positive casesxafter a couple of weeks? Jmo

In the US, one is supposed to have a clean CoVid test (no longer shedding) to be considered negative. Some clinics/doctors/workplaces want 2 clean tests.

It has nothing to do with time - but 2 weeks is the average for the next test. Some people are still positive at 2 weeks out (still shedding). Some people are not.

To be described as no longer having CoVid, a person has to first test positive and then test negative at least one time. In some cases, people are re-testing positive on their third test, which is puzzling.

We still don't know how long CoVid lasts, and of course, if one's first test is done when one is still asymptomatic, as opposed to when one shows up at the ER with severe symptoms, the time frames will be different. I don't think that's sorted out yet.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Apparently,


In the US, one is supposed to have a clean CoVid test (no longer shedding) to be considered negative. Some clinics/doctors/workplaces want 2 clean tests.

It has nothing to do with time - but 2 weeks is the average for the next test. Some people are still positive at 2 weeks out (still shedding). Some people are not.

To be described as no longer having CoVid, a person has to first test positive and then test negative at least one time. In some cases, people are re-testing positive on their third test, which is puzzling.

We still don't know how long CoVid lasts, and of course, if one's first test is done when one is still asymptomatic, as opposed to when one shows up at the ER with severe symptoms, the time frames will be different. I don't think that's sorted out yet.

Do you have any proof all these followup tests are being done. To the best of my knowledge, my state doesn't require followup negative tests.

 

[Trino]

Yes, I agree. The idea that lives can be sacrificed so that the economy can return to the way it was before the virus is not reasonable, nor sustainable. There is no going back.

Good story about downtown DC - damage may be permanent. 90% working from home.
The pandemic has devastated downtown D.C. Some fear the damage is permanent.

 

[SouthAussie]

Aussie covid news this morning ...

Over the weekend my state took its expanded amount of Aussies returning home. We saw pics of many of them on TV news, masked up and going into medi hotels for 2 weeks.

Coronavirus: South Australia accepting hundreds more returned overseas travellers as caps rise


And there are strong talks between our state of NSW and NZ. A travel bubble to be established before Christmas, possibly quite soon. If this goes well, more Aussie states will be able to participate in the travel bubble. Which is a bit exciting!

NZ travel bubble possible before Christmas

 

[SouthAussie]

Good story about downtown DC - damage may be permanent. 90% working from home.
The pandemic has devastated downtown D.C. Some fear the damage is permanent.

From your linked article ...

"On the steps of New York Avenue Presbyterian Church, Geo-Geo (pronounced "Jo-Jo;" he avoids using a last name, he said, because it belongs to the man he was before he found Jesus) has been counting the sneezes he has witnessed since the pandemic's start. So far his tally is 741, only 41 of which the sneezers bothered to cover."

 

[tresir2012]

Apparently,


In the US, one is supposed to have a clean CoVid test (no longer shedding) to be considered negative. Some clinics/doctors/workplaces want 2 clean tests.

It has nothing to do with time - but 2 weeks is the average for the next test. Some people are still positive at 2 weeks out (still shedding). Some people are not.

To be described as no longer having CoVid, a person has to first test positive and then test negative at least one time. In some cases, people are re-testing positive on their third test, which is puzzling.

We still don't know how long CoVid lasts, and of course, if one's first test is done when one is still asymptomatic, as opposed to when one shows up at the ER with severe symptoms, the time frames will be different. I don't think that's sorted out yet.

So who exactly is determining these requirements? State or federal for example or CDC perhaps. I have no idea what the 4 UK areas are doing.

 

[musicaljoke]

Do you have any proof all these followup tests are being done. To the best of my knowledge, my state doesn't require followup negative tests.

Is there a way that you can find out for sure? If a person is diagnosed with Covid, then I assume they would be required to quarantine. How do they know that their quarantine period is ended if they don't have a negative test result? Is there a public health officer who supervises the quarantining period?

 

[Trino]

From your linked article ...

"On the steps of New York Avenue Presbyterian Church, Geo-Geo (pronounced "Jo-Jo;" he avoids using a last name, he said, because it belongs to the man he was before he found Jesus) has been counting the sneezes he has witnessed since the pandemic's start. So far his tally is 741, only 41 of which the sneezers bothered to cover."

That's part of why we're in the state we're in.

 

[Trino]

Is there a way that you can find out for sure? If a person is diagnosed with Covid, then I assume they would be required to quarantine. How do they know that their quarantine period is ended if they don't have a negative test result? Is there a public health officer who supervises the quarantining period?

Good question. I'm not so certain there are officials who monitor quarantines.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Is there a way that you can find out for sure? If a person is diagnosed with Covid, then I assume they would be required to quarantine. How do they know that their quarantine period is ended if they don't have a negative test result? Is there a public health officer who supervises the quarantining period?

My state just has guidelines. Let me look. I'll get you a link if I can find it.

Here we go. We use CDC guidelines.

Persons with COVID-19 who have symptoms and were directed to care for themselves at home may discontinue isolation under the following conditions:

• At least 10 days* have passed since symptom onset and
• At least 24 hours have passed since resolution of fever without the use of fever-reducing medications and
• Other symptoms have improved.

*A limited number of persons with severe illness may produce replication-competent virus beyond 10 days, that may warrant extending duration of isolation for up to 20 days after symptom onset. Consider consultation with infection control experts.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

 

[Tillicum]

My state just has guidelines. Let me look. I'll get you a link if I can find it.

Here we go. We use CDC guidelines.

Persons with COVID-19 who have symptoms and were directed to care for themselves at home may discontinue isolation under the following conditions:

• At least 10 days* have passed since symptom onset and
• At least 24 hours have passed since resolution of fever without the use of fever-reducing medications and
• Other symptoms have improved.

*A limited number of persons with severe illness may produce replication-competent virus beyond 10 days, that may warrant extending duration of isolation for up to 20 days after symptom onset. Consider consultation with infection control experts.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

We do the same in Ohio. Over 20 cases I know of didn't have to be tested again. I do know of a few cases that had to get a negative result before returning to work due to company rules.

 

[SouthAussie]

Good on the UK, if they can make this happen. It might be the way forward for everyone for a while.


Boris Johnson's Government is aiming to achieve 10 million tests a day by early next year.

"That level of tests would allow people to lead more normal lives without the need for social distancing," Mr Johnson said when announcing the strategy in early September.

Under the plan, some test results would be available in as little as 20 minutes.

"Theatres and sports venues could test all audience members ... and let in all those with a negative result," the Prime Minister said.

"Workplaces could be opened up to all those who test negative in the morning, to behave in a way that was exactly as in the world before COVID-19."

Crazy or ambitious? The UK's $180 billion plan to live freely — even without a vaccine

 

[musicaljoke]

Good question. I'm not so certain there are officials who monitor quarantines.

While you are looking that up, I'll bore everyone by telling them how the Public Health systems works here (Ontario/Canada) and similarly throughout the other provinces.

The province is divided into regions, each with an office of the Public Health Unit. This organisation is at arms length from your doctor, or the hospitals, and works only with Public Health issues. They manage contagious disease, vaccination programs, restaurant inspections, well baby checkups, drug addition, research, health education, injury prevention, lab services, etc. It is publicly funded, although it offers some services for a fee.

If I were to have a positive Covid test, this information, being a reportable disease, would be given to the Public Health Unit. Within one day, they would follow up by providing instructions for self care, isolation, and support. An officer will also immediately begin contact tracing and testing. The unit will also supervise the quarantine period by calling/checking several times a day to make sure you are at home and that your symptoms haven't worsened.

At the end of the quarantine period, they would require another Covid test. Early in the pandemic, two negative tests were required before you were considered recovered, but now it might be only one.

The case data which they collect about you, (test results, age, sex, how you contacted Covid ) is reported to Health Canada, the federal arm of the Public Health system.

The Public Health Office is a Crown agency, an arms length agency of the federal government. It was established following the Influenza epidemic of 1918.

Vision, Mission, Mandate and Values | Public Health Ontario

https://www.publichealthontario.ca/...ovid-19-regional-epi-summary-report.pdf?la=en