Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #80

[roche.analisa]

Oh gosh. I’m past due for my skin check and have several places that need to be examined and probably removed.
Did your doctor have on a mask and/or face shield?

I had mine a few weeks ago. Doctor and I both wore masks the whole time, as did her whole staff. I was very comfortable. Of course, I'm in Texas, where masks are mandated.

16 pharmaceutical companies and the Gates Foundation to scale up manufacturing of Covid-19 vaccines

The 16 pharmaceutical companies to sign this agreement are AstraZeneca; Bayer; bioMérieux; Boehringer Ingelheim; Bristol Myers Squibb; Eisai; Eli Lilly; Gilead; GSK; Johnson & Johnson; Merck & Co. (known as MSD outside the U.S. and Canada); Merck KGaA; Novartis; Pfizer; Roche; and Sanofi.

United Nations welcomes nearly $1 billion in recent pledges - to bolster access to lifesaving tests, treatments and vaccines to end COVID-19

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has signed a new joint agreement, along with 16 pharmaceutical companies, to commit to scaling up manufacturing of Covid-19 vaccines at "an unprecedented speed" and making sure that approved vaccines reach broad global distribution as early as possible.

I was so happy to see Sanofi on this list. I will be forever grateful to Sanofi for making a drug that made my daughter's intractable eczema manageable for the first time in her life.

 

[10ofRods]

I was really surprised to see South Carolina with the best stat on that Rt list at .84. Our percent positive in the seven days has ranged from 8.2% to 14.3% with at least 123 confirmed deaths and over 5,000 new cases.

One of my co-workers (31 year old guy) tells me the virus is OVER and me and the other secretary in the office are crazy for wearing masks all day. Seeing that statistic does make me wonder (not that Covid is over, but that we as a state are doing much better than I thought). On the other hand, our town has already cancelled the annual Christmas parade scheduled for mid-December and a lot of people are in an uproar over that. Town is still pondering what to do about Halloween.

ETA: Today's numbers: only 197 new confirmed cases, 21 new confirmed deaths, but a positivity rate of 15.7%

The Rt may change in the next few days to reflect that, but it's also possible that...every single person who had CoVid 2-3 weeks ago gave it to only 1 or zero people. This wouldn't be unusual in large group transmission (including outdoors). IOW, you have CoVid, may not know it, go to a party, dance around, but have an hour long conversation with a certain someone - and that person gets CoVid from you. Another person at the party also has CoVid but bops around continuously, runs back and forth to the keg, dances on the terrace, and never has a face to face conversation with anyone - doesn't transmit.

Further...if some of these partiers were in fact wearing masks...it would lower the R-naught number (but for the numbers to be so high on positivity - and that is indeed a high number = YIKES = it means that an awful lot of one on one transmission is occurring.

 

[mickey2942]

You couldn't pay me to take public transportation in any city right now. Even if I was wearing a full haz-mat suit. Forget a cloth mask!

 

[LadyL]

meanwhile in Canada ...

Man gets punched in face after confronting another man not wearing mask in Toronto

 

[LadyL]

and then there's this:

Officially, only children under the age of two or people with medical conditions are allowed to avoid donning a mask. Some are finding those guidelines a little opaque, and further muddying the waters are anti-maskers apparently selling fake medical exemption cards online.
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Toronto Public Health was forced to respond to phony exemption cards on Twitter, noting businesses are not permitted to require proof of medical exemptions. It also noted that the cards are not endorsed by the health agency.

Coronavirus: Phony medical face mask exemption cards confound Ontario and Toronto officials

 

[anneg]

As you may know, Israel got pretty good control over CoVid and now is entering major new lockdowns during what they're calling a Second Wave.

Medical reports from Israel show that the symptoms and course of the disease are more serious in the second phase.

40% of younger patients are seriously ill. This is being reported in other places as well.

"COVID-19 Patients Are Far More Ill During Current Wave," Mayanei HaYeshua Director Says - The Yeshiva World

The article states that Israeli doctors believe the virus is much worse in this phase (and there are a number of pre-prints on why this could be so, including the fact that some people may have already had an asymptomatic or mild case - but that instead of gaining immunity, CoVid may do something permanently damaging to the immune system).

This is not good.

 

[Trino]

Super-healthy 19-year-old college athlete dies of CoVid.

And his family wants to get the word out. He had no known pre-existing conditions.

Suggest the family write this in a letter to Florida's governor.

 

[Trino]

meanwhile in Canada ...

Man gets punched in face after confronting another man not wearing mask in Toronto

Welcome to 2020.

 

[MimosaMornings]

Super-healthy 19-year-old college athlete dies of CoVid.

And his family wants to get the word out. He had no known pre-existing conditions.

Appalachian State tells students to 'remain vigilant' after coronavirus death — CNBC

“Chad's family asked that this moment stand as a stark reminder of how Covid-19 is deadly serious for all of us, even for otherwise healthy young adults. We have a heightened duty to one another in these extraordinarily trying times, and we all need to remain vigilant," UNC System President Peter Hans said in a statement Tuesday.”

 

[10ofRods]

12 year old Florida girl dies of CoVid after 10 days in the hospital

Yes, she had a common underlying condition. Sadly, she got CoVid from her own father, who works in law enforcement. No word about whether he wore a mask at work but the girl herself did, whenever she went out. He was accustomed to changing his clothes and showering when he came home, but nothing about his wearing a mask at home. He was mildly symptomatic and thought it was "just a cold."

Very sad story. Cute youngster.

 

[MrX]

Appalachian State tells students to 'remain vigilant' after coronavirus death — CNBC

“Chad's family asked that this moment stand as a stark reminder of how Covid-19 is deadly serious for all of us, even for otherwise healthy young adults. We have a heightened duty to one another in these extraordinarily trying times, and we all need to remain vigilant," UNC System President Peter Hans said in a statement Tuesday.”

""The doctors said that Chad is the rarest 1-10,000,000 case..."

 

[drama_farmer]

Looks like US Cruise ships will be setting sail before the end of the year


Mike Pence reportedly overruled the CDC on extending a cruise ship ban to 2021, the latest example of the White House sidelining expert advice in the pandemic

 

[10ofRods]

Whistleblower on USA CoVid Taskforce says he was told to fudge data on CoVid deaths.

 

[10ofRods]

""The doctors said that Chad is the rarest 1-10,000,000 case..."

How would the doctors know that? Are they epidemiologists with access to the entire world's data?

I think not. I sure would like to know their thinking process though. If he's the only healthy 19 year old in America who has died, we could even say he is 1 in 300,000,000.

Or, if there are 10,000,000 19 year olds (possible), and only 1 has died - then I guess that's what they mean. Maybe they mean there are 10,000,000 19 year old males (we know more males are dying).

However, the word "rarest" can't be applied unless we know that at least 2 who are 12 years old have died (do we know that? We know there's one - see my post above).

It's certainly rare. But so is the murder of a 19 year old - and we at WS consider it important anyway.

At any rate, there have been (not including deaths from the past month) 121 people under 21 who have died of CoVid in the US.

SARS-CoV-2–Associated Deaths Among Persons Aged 21 Years ...

So yeah - that's rare, but those Jerry's kids diseases are way more rare...

 

[10ofRods]

The asymptomatic and the symptomatic seem to be equally infectious (able to spread to others).

This of course accounts for the way CV "percolates" in an environment and then seems to leap forward when it reaches the parents of the young people who are our largest number of positive cases (nearly everywhere).

 

[SouthAussie]

Whistleblower on USA CoVid Taskforce says he was told to fudge data on CoVid deaths.

And there you go ... the deep concern, from a member of one of the most respected families in the US.

IMO

 

[Cool Cats]

Here we go again...........Florida is just such an experimental playground... The increase in numbers is just after the "all bars and restaurants" open.

• Florida's health department recorded 3,266 new coronavirus cases on Tuesday, a massive jump from 738 new daily cases it recorded on Monday.
• Florida's cases had been declining, but Tuesday marked the highest single-day total since September 19, bringing the state's total count to 704,568.

Florida reported a spike in COVID-19 cases just days after allowing restaurants and small businesses to fully reopen

‘It’s going to be on them’: Florida businesses have to adapt to no state COVID rules

Wed, September 30, 2020, 11:12 AM EDT

Amanda Cachaldora and her family were sitting at a corner booth inside a Flanigan’s restaurant in Hialeah Saturday afternoon when they noticed the indoor dining space started to fill up fast.

Uncomfortable, Cachaldora watched as more and more customers were seated at tables that minutes earlier had been blocked off with a “reserved” sign to keep people at a distance because of the coronavirus.

The family decided to move outside, and requested to speak to a manager.

“I said, ‘I’m sorry, but what’s happening here?’ ” Cachaldora recalled. “He told me DeSantis said there were no more restrictions and that they could seat people wherever they wanted. He was very brusque about it.”

A lack of clear direction

The governor’s order means state officials will no longer enforce social-distancing violations at businesses, or threaten to revoke liquor licenses for violating those rules like the state did this summer. Beshears said enforcing capacity levels and guidelines now falls on local government and business owners.

“It’s going to be on them, the state is getting out of the way,” he said, while admitting he is concerned about businesses who fail to operate in a safe way. Beshears is encouraging businesses to be “smart” and operate safely.

Health experts say the state’s lifting regulations on businesses creates a vacuum of leadership at a dangerous time.

 

[MrX]

How would the doctors know that? Are they epidemiologists with access to the entire world's data?

I think not. I sure would like to know their thinking process though. If he's the only healthy 19 year old in America who has died, we could even say he is 1 in 300,000,000.

Or, if there are 10,000,000 19 year olds (possible), and only 1 has died - then I guess that's what they mean. Maybe they mean there are 10,000,000 19 year old males (we know more males are dying).

However, the word "rarest" can't be applied unless we know that at least 2 who are 12 years old have died (do we know that? We know there's one - see my post above).

It's certainly rare. But so is the murder of a 19 year old - and we at WS consider it important anyway.

At any rate, there have been (not including deaths from the past month) 121 people under 21 who have died of CoVid in the US.

SARS-CoV-2–Associated Deaths Among Persons Aged 21 Years ...

So yeah - that's rare, but those Jerry's kids diseases are way more rare...

The presentation of the article, in my opinion, was meant to be sensational. "Super-healthy 19-year-old college athlete..." We only have the Mother's quote, as to what the Doctors said, but the implication is that it was something quite rare.

I'm making it more of a point to look into stories that sound fantastic, on the surface, and remain frustrated at how much is either published as click-bait, or is just cut-and-paste laziness. My local news is a daily reminder - they update that day's numbers, but the rest of the daily "breaking news" all word-for-word boilerplate.

 

[margarita25]

Looks like US Cruise ships will be setting sail before the end of the year


Mike Pence reportedly overruled the CDC on extending a cruise ship ban to 2021, the latest example of the White House sidelining expert advice in the pandemic

OH NO!

Can someone please bring over some snippets? I’m having trouble viewing the article, tia.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Dr. Swaminathan, Chief Scientist at WHO, said phase three clinical trials should take a minimum of 6 months. IF there is a successful vaccine candidate via the global pooling, (again there is no guarantee, although people are indeed optimistic and working really hard in an unprecedented global effort; additionally for reference, as we know the US has not joined the COVAX Facility, so this does not refer to the US), then they can get those deployed, which she reasonably estimates to be in the second to third quarter of next year, in an ideal situation. Some of the phase 3 clinical trials only started in June or July, and of course not all are in phase 3, although some seem to be moving along well (fingers crossed).

Dr. Bruce Aylword, head of the COVAX facility, also talks extensively/has a lot of information about this.

COVID-19 -Media, Maps, Videos, Timelines, CDC/WHO Resources, etc. ***NO DISCUSSION***

Thanks, Margarita..... we all really have to embrace the reality and not the race here.
If we just could close our ears to the leadership in the US, and all the marketing departments of these pharmaceutical companies...........maybe we could get the real picture for truth and realistic expectations.