Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #81

[gitana1]

BBM

Trump receives experimental antibody treatment for Covid-19 diagnosis

Yes absolutely!

The Top experimental treatments.

I was challenged here when I stated that was happening for the president and his inner circle.

 

[Cool Cats]

I was challenged here when I stated that was happening for the president and his inner circle.

Well you are right! Keep posting G. <modsnip>

President Trump Has Been Treated With an Experimental COVID-19 Antibody Cocktail. What's That?

U.S. President Donald Trump has received a promising but experimental COVID-19 drug still in clinical trials, according to a White House statement released Friday afternoon, following his diagnosis with the disease.

Sean Conley, the President’s personal physician, wrote in a memo that he treated Trump with an eight-gram dose of Regeneron’s experimental antibody cocktail. Trump has also received zinc, vitamin D, aspirin, melatonin and a heartburn drug thought to help fight COVID-19.

 

[Medstudies]

Where is 15 and 20 feet coming from? It is 2 metres - we have it on signs everywhere we go.

FWIW

Coronavirus protection: How masks might stop the spread through coughs

“The WHO and over 200 medical experts agree with new research that shows COVID-19 could be carried by cough droplets and travel up 26 feet.”
ALEXIS ARNOLD, USA TODAY

 

[gitana1]

Where is 15 and 20 feet coming from? It is 2 metres - we have it on signs everywhere we go.

The six feet (2 metres?) rule came from super old, pre-COVID studies.

Science has found that aerosols from sick patients can travel 7-16 feet.

That being said, there is no evidence yet that the amount of virus that can actually travel that distance would be enough to infect someone.

Wearing masks when in areas where you can’t be far apart or where there’s little ventilation seems to be the best safeguard.
6 Feet May Not Be Enough Distance To Stop The Coronavirus

I’m sure I’m not the only one worried about what winter will bring. We are lucky in So.Cal to have mild weather and can continue with outside socialization through the winter with coats and heat lamps, etc.


But the rest of the country, can’t.

 

[Satchie]

BBM

Trump receives experimental antibody treatment for Covid-19 diagnosis

Yes absolutely!

The Top experimental treatments.

No guarantees though. But his doctors will go at it with gun's blazing...

Just an observation, but I have thought that one reason Trump was moved to hospital is to closely monitor his reaction to this experimental drug. I very much doubt it has been tested on 74 year old men. It could have possible, unexpected side effects, and the decision to give it to him is taking a deliberate medical risk, that needs to be balanced by very close monitoring of its effect.

JMO

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Just an observation, but I have thought that one reason Trump was moved to hospital is to closely monitor his reaction to this experimental drug. I very much doubt it has been tested on 74 year old men. It could have possible, unexpected side effects, and the decision to give it to him is taking a deliberate medical risk, that needs to be balanced by very close monitoring of its effect.

JMO

So this drug could be dangerous to the President?

 

[JerseyGirl]

After Trump held the campaign rally in Duluth, he held a fundraiser in nearby Lake Minnetonka.

Hope Hicks was in close contact with several White House aides — like Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner — in the days leading up to her positive COVID-19 test

• Hicks traveled with Trump and other top officials to Ohio on Wednesday and Minnesota on Thursday.
• Images and reports from Wednesday showed a mask-less Hicks in close proximity to aides including Jared Kushner, Stephen Miller, Jason Miller, and Dan Scavino — none of whom were wearing masks.
• Hicks also flew on Air Force One with National Security Advisor Robert O'Brien, Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien, and adviser Ivanka Trump on Tuesday
• CNN and CBS News reported that some White House officials were aware of Hicks' positive test by Thursday morning, before Trump's fundraiser. It's not clear if Trump or other officials he was with knew.

 

[gitana1]

How do people safely travel in a car together if the safe distance is 2 meters?

Everyone wears a surgical mask. Don’t travel if you or someone you’re traveling with is sick, showing symptoms or has recently been around someone who tested positive.

No one can be perfect. I remember when doctors and nurses wearing hardcore protective gear still got Ebola. One slip and stuff can happen.

But it’s all about hedging our bets and trying to protect those around us. It baffles me why this is so hard.

Six feet is currently the agreed upon guideline that can help reduce risk if someone is not wearing a mask, is wearing an ineffective mask, is coughing or sneezing hard while wearing a mask, is not wearing a mask effectively, or has germs all over their face and hands. It may not be the exact right measurement in all situations. Maybe it’s less. Maybe it’s more. But we know distance reduces risk of transmission.

It’s that simple.

 

[Cool Cats]

Just an observation, but I have thought that one reason Trump was moved to hospital is to closely monitor his reaction to this experimental drug. I very much doubt it has been tested on 74 year old men. It could have possible, unexpected side effects, and the decision to give it to him is taking a deliberate medical risk, that needs to be balanced by very close monitoring of its effect.

JMO

Well, it looks like it is being tested on a 74 year old man right now. Trump had to give his consent for this...humm....why so quick to resort to experimental treatments?

 

[CSIDreamer]

Well, it looks like it is being tested on a 74 year old man right now. Trump had to give his consent for this...humm....why so quick to resort to experamental treatments?

Because he can?

 

[sds71]

168 countries have now joined the COVAX Facility, a WHO-led effort to pool the risk of supporting vaccine development and for securing doses equitably for countries across all income levels. Tedros added that 25 more countries have said they will join the initiative soon.

WHO enlists more COVAX participants, clears 2nd rapid test

 

[dixiegirl1035]

How do people safely travel in a car together if the safe distance is 2 meters?

Such a great question to educate folks who may have this question as you have here!

In the US.. you should avoid and isolate if you are positive. No cars at all for leisure. You should be in isolate or quarantine - see your local guidelines.

If you are talking about in most areas of the US... if you live with the folks day to day (e.g. parent child) you wear a seat belt, as is required by law and most folks follow. And if no exposures... drive your kiddos to school or wherever locally allowed.

MOO - best to research for your county for your rules.

For more information, you can go to your local health department/CDC pages for more information.

Again, thanks for the opportunity to give information for folks who are truly in a conundrum as to a succinct messaging from scientists.

ETA: Good response to add from Gitana1

Everyone wears a surgical mask. Don’t travel if you or someone you’re traveling with is sick, showing symptoms or has recently been around someone who tested positive.

No one can be perfect. I remember when doctors and nurses wearing hardcore protective gear still got Ebola. One slip and stuff can happen.

But it’s all about hedging our bets and trying to protect those around us. It baffles me why this is so hard.

Six feet is currently the agreed upon guideline that can help reduce risk if someone is not wearing a mask, is wearing an ineffective mask, is coughing or sneezing hard while wearing a mask, is not wearing a mask effectively, or has germs all over their face and hands. It may not be the exact right measurement in all situations. Maybe it’s less. Maybe it’s more. But we know distance reduces risk of transmission.

It’s that simple.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Trump is being treated with remdesivir, an antiviral drug made by Gilead Sciences. While the drug hasn't been approved by the FDA, it was authorized for emergency use in May for treating hospitalized patients with the coronavirus.

Trump received his first IV infusion of remdesivir on Friday night, and doctors say he'll undergo a five-day treatment course of the drug.

The president's doctors said Saturday that he was not on supplemental oxygen "right now," but declined to say whether he had been previously.

Along with remdesivir, Trump is also taking an experimental "antibody cocktail" by the drugmaker Regeneron. In an ongoing trial, the drug — known as REGN-COV2 — has been shown to reduce viral load in the body, as well as the duration of symptoms. Patients given a placebo generally took 13 days to see their symptoms reduced, while those given the cocktail saw results in about half the time.

That trial has not examined the interplay between the cocktail and remdesivir.

Trump Is Taking Remdesivir. Here's How It Works To Control The Coronavirus

 

[gitana1]

Well, it looks like it is being tested on a 74 year old man right now. Trump had to give his consent for this...humm....why so quick to resort to experimental treatments?

From what I heard it’s really not dangerous. Of course COVID is. With his age and weight the benefit likely far outweighs the risk.

They’re going to do everything humanely possible to keep the president healthy. It becomes a national security issue if he’s not.

I heard from some pundit on the news that we are currently at risk for serious espionage efforts by Russia and China because our focus is elsewhere.

 

[gitana1]

Trump is being treated with remdesivir, an antiviral drug made by Gilead Sciences. While the drug hasn't been approved by the Food and Drug Administration, it was authorized for emergency use in May for treating hospitalized patients with the coronavirus.

Trump received his first IV infusion of remdesivir on Friday night, and doctors say he'll undergo a five-day treatment course of the drug.

The president's doctors said Saturday that he was not on supplemental oxygen "right now," but declined to say whether he had been previously.

Along with remdesivir, Trump is also taking an experimental "antibody cocktail" by the drugmaker Regeneron. In an ongoing trial, the drug — known as REGN-COV2 — has been shown to reduce viral load in the body, as well as the duration of symptoms. Patients given a placebo generally took 13 days to see their symptoms reduced, while those given the cocktail saw results in about half the time. That trial has not examined the interplay between the cocktail and remdesivir.

Trump Is Taking Remdesivir. Here's How It Works To Control The Coronavirus

I think he’s going to be fine.

I really hope the public understands that the rest of us won’t be given an anti-body cocktail or antivirals unless we have gravely deteriorated. No average citizen is getting that aggressive prophylactic treatment.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I think he’s going to be fine.

I really hope the public understands that the rest of us won’t be given an anti-body cocktail or antivirals unless we have gravely deteriorated. No average citizen is getting that aggressive prophylactic treatment.

I think most people understand the POTUS gets special treatment. Always has, always will. I think there may be some people that are a bit jealous, but that's probably common too. Jmo

 

[Sillybilly]

Trump is being treated with remdesivir, an antiviral drug made by Gilead Sciences. While the drug hasn't been approved by the FDA, it was authorized for emergency use in May for treating hospitalized patients with the coronavirus.

<rsbm>

FDA letter dated October 1 2020 to Gilead Sciences

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Regeneron co-founder on the antibody cocktail Trump is taking to fight coronavirus

"We figured out ways to make the best of the antibodies that your body makes but we can make them outside of the body in these huge bioreactors, purify them and give them back to you in highly-concentrated form so it's like we're substituting for or supplementing your own immune system with these very powerful antibodies," Yancopoulos said.

Regeneron co-founder on the antibody cocktail Trump is taking to fight coronavirus

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Well, it looks like it is being tested on a 74 year old man right now. Trump had to give his consent for this...humm....why so quick to resort to experimental treatments?

MOO the reason is because not many therapeutics exist, and this product is the "antibodies" that theoretically can knock down the viral load.

This is so that his body can better fight, and I would think they will next, after the Remdesivir they are giving him, keep a REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLy close watch on his D-Dimer levels, his CT as to infiltrates and potential microblood clots etc (those who follow Dr. Campbell, Sehelult etc here will understand that and other markers)

 

[tresir2012]

A sad sad sad case for a pandemic that the person who may have set off such, so far into this pandemic, cannot be traced to the President of the United States of America.

Sad sad sad indeed as to science and state of affairs saying so important to track and trace. and that isn't happening with this worldwide event of the President of the United States getting such and so many others.

MOO

They probably have but are trying to keep them anonymous. But with such public events that is going to be difficult. Maybe at this point we should not even be naming and discussing them but with it all being so public, it is very difficult. But I am thinking how intrusive it is getting. I don't remember this level of discussion on other public figures that have caught the virus.