Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #82

[tresir2012]

Here is the latest link I could find on the WHO investigation.

What we know about the coronavirus probe Australia 'unfairly' championed

Australia helped lead the push for an international investigation into the origins of the coronavirus, but in doing so hurt "the feelings of the Chinese people", one of China's most senior diplomats says.

During a rare address at the National Press Club in Canberra, Wang Xining, the deputy head of mission at China's embassy in Australia, said China saw Australia's move to begin an investigation as unfair because it had relied on the presumption Wuhan was the source of the virus.

International support for the investigation was otherwise strong and the World Health Assembly (WHA), the governing body of the World Health Organization, eventually adopted a European Union resolution, co-sponsored by both Australia and China, calling for a "comprehensive, independent and impartial" investigation.

So how is that investigation going? When will we know more?

See more at above link.

Also this link about the President's treatment.

Trump's medical team threw him a 'Hail Mary pass'. This is the experimental COVID-19 treatment doctors gave him

President Donald Trump's medical team threw him a Hail Mary pass shortly after he tested positive to the coronavirus, says an Australian expert.

Key points:

• Professor John Rasko says it is unprecedented for the President of the United States to receive a highly experimental and unproven drug
• It is not known how Regeneron's REGN-COV2 works with the two other drugs Mr Trump took
• The drug aims to bolster the immune system's ability to recognise and neutralise the coronavirus

It came in the form of an infusion of Regeneron's REGN-COV2, a highly experimental and unproven drug prescribed alongside two other main treatments.

Mr Trump received a single 8-gram cocktail of antibodies tailor-made to treat the virus, the White House physician said.

It was an unprecedented move to give such an important person a drug so early in its development, said Professor John Rasko, head of the Department of Cell and Molecular Therapies, Royal Prince Alfred Hospital.

"In this case it's just a hunch, it's a wild kick to see whether or not they can get a goal — a Hail Mary pass, as they say," Professor Rasko said.

continued at above link.

 

[Sundog]

Booming demand and supply chain issues in COVID crisis combine to create appliance shortage

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/appliances-shortage-covid-1.5752402?__vfz=medium=sharebar&fbclid=IwAR2DO7kwk8n8f9atgLMx09g7bwaCgUFK0wtVHo4LEHp9lZCcuu2Kj6biJE4

I wondered about this. Still trying to get a chest freezer but most places are out of stock. I see them on Wayfair and some other sites, but don't want to buy one somewhere where I can't easily return it if we have problems. We had to order a new garbage disposal, and wanted to get the same model that we had originally installed, so all the pipe fittings etc. would align and we could install it ourselves without too much fuss. We watched a YouTube video and did install it when it finally arrived. But it was out of stock at Home Depot, Lowe's, Menards, Walmart, etc. so we had to order online and wait a few weeks.

 

[Lilibet]

So...giving Dex while trying to use active anti-virals or monoclonal antibodies may suppress some of the immune response.

This is interesting. My husband had to postpone a steroid injection in his back for 14 days after having his flu shot. The pain clinic said the steroid could interfere with the effectiveness of the flu shot. Fortunately, he happened to randomly mention that he would be getting his flu shot the next day while they were scheduling the steroid injection for a week later, so they immediately postponed it. But they hadn’t asked him about whether he had gotten his flu shot even though ‘tis the season.

Point being, both drugs being given to the President are much stronger than a flu shot and steroid injection, so here’s hoping the Dex doesn’t interfere with the monoclonal antibodies.

 

[10ofRods]

Booming demand and supply chain issues in COVID crisis combine to create appliance shortage

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/appliances-shortage-covid-1.5752402?__vfz=medium=sharebar&fbclid=IwAR2DO7kwk8n8f9atgLMx09g7bwaCgUFK0wtVHo4LEHp9lZCcuu2Kj6biJE4

Supply chain issues...ahen.

Meaning? Most of our appliances come from China. Or used to. Even if they were made in Malaysia or several other Asian places, they may have come on Chinese freighters.

Also...there's now a problem with repackaging and refurbishing things returned to stores. Like Lowe's. It's really hard to return big items (we've had to, obviously previously opened, but then resealed with those giant staples...)

Get your winter heaters! (We can't find an actual whole house heater in our size - so we're without central heating, but, it's hard to even imagine we'll ever need it, it's been so hot, besides I'd love to wear a sweater some time).

 

[MimosaMornings]

Trump advisor spotted at game, without mask, after saying he would self-isolate — CNBC

“Corey Lewandowski, a top Trump campaign advisor, was spotted at a kids' football game over the weekend without wearing a mask even though he had said he would isolate himself because he had been exposed to people with the coronavirus.”

“I think people should wear masks," Lewandowski said during a CBSN interview on Friday, hours after President Donald Trump revealed that he and first lady Melania Trump had Covid-19. “

Uh huh. Sure you do.

 

[SouthAussie]

Its only the US and to some degree Australian leaders that are not happy with WHO AFAIK. So I am wondering who are these untrained 95% 7th grade education peeps that you mention?

Where did the information that Australia is not happy with WHO come from? That is news to me.

It is China that we are not happy with AFAIK. And even that hurdle we are trying to overcome with diplomacy.

We are fully supporting WHO. Have signed up to assist the vaccination programs, are committed to assisting with funding.

IMO

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Trump advisor spotted at game, without mask, after saying he would self-isolate — CNBC

“Corey Lewandowski, a top Trump campaign advisor, was spotted at a kids' football game over the weekend without wearing a mask even though he had said he would isolate himself because he had been exposed to people with the coronavirus.”

“I think people should wear masks," Lewandowski said during a CBSN interview on Friday, hours after President Donald Trump revealed that he and first lady Melania Trump had Covid-19. “

Uh huh. Sure you do.

Other people, apparently.

 

[Trino]

Trump advisor spotted at game, without mask, after saying he would self-isolate — CNBC

“Corey Lewandowski, a top Trump campaign advisor, was spotted at a kids' football game over the weekend without wearing a mask even though he had said he would isolate himself because he had been exposed to people with the coronavirus.”

“I think people should wear masks," Lewandowski said during a CBSN interview on Friday, hours after President Donald Trump revealed that he and first lady Melania Trump had Covid-19. “

Uh huh. Sure you do.

Amazes me that these individuals do not think they will be found out.

 

[gogrannypop]

Amazes me that these individuals do not think they will be found out.

BBM
I believe this to be truth.

 

[sds71]

The official said Trump is tested "regularly" while people around the President are tested "daily."

Two White House officials concede Trump has not been tested daily for coronavirus

 

[musicaljoke]

The official said Trump is tested "regularly" while people around the President are tested "daily."

Two White House officials concede Trump has not been tested daily for coronavirus

Ok, we're getting closer. Now we just need a wee bit more info to know exactly when the last negative test was recorded. Otherwise, some people might suspect that Trump wasn't getting tested at all.

 

[Reasonable & Just]

I often come back to the "choices" argument as well. I'll take care of myself by just staying home more, and always wear a mask and social distance whenever I can. "let em do what they want"

But then when I come to the bigger picture issues that will keep hitting us down the road..
Covid healthcare costs...
International travel freedom...
Stronger economic recovery
Resumption of professional sports, AND children's sports and activities....
Civility in America
Hugs

I just come back to nooooo....
we have to, somehow, work together to for the better good, and livelihood of all America?
First Amendment starts to sound pretty selfish to me, when perhaps some global sacrifice in the US could go a long way.........

RBBM. I have to admit this is huge, and I'm not a traveler. But I never really thought I'd see the day when I can't just buy a ticket and go where I want, or drive to Montreal. I never thought I'd see any of the things that happened, but somehow losing the freedom to travel is bothering me the most.

 

[Sundog]

California governor's staff member positive for COVID-19

ETA:

“Under privacy laws, we cannot disclose the office location where these employees worked," the statement said.


One staffer and one intern in Nesom's office tests positive for COVID.

 

[GRT]

Here is the latest link I could find on the WHO investigation.

What we know about the coronavirus probe Australia 'unfairly' championed

Australia helped lead the push for an international investigation into the origins of the coronavirus, but in doing so hurt "the feelings of the Chinese people", one of China's most senior diplomats says.

During a rare address at the National Press Club in Canberra, Wang Xining, the deputy head of mission at China's embassy in Australia, said China saw Australia's move to begin an investigation as unfair because it had relied on the presumption Wuhan was the source of the virus.

International support for the investigation was otherwise strong and the World Health Assembly (WHA), the governing body of the World Health Organization, eventually adopted a European Union resolution, co-sponsored by both Australia and China, calling for a "comprehensive, independent and impartial" investigation.

So how is that investigation going? When will we know more?
.

Well, the last thing I've heard is last month's update in the Lancet that is highly political rather than purely scientific. I was quite disappointed.

I get it that a cold war between China and the US would be detrimental to world trade (yes, that's in the report) but I think the facts should come out no matter what they are.

China claims the virus is zoonotic, that it jumped from animals (likely bats) to humans. Maybe so--I'm no scientist so I can't judge that. But I have listened to more than one interview where Chinese virologist, Dr Li-Meng Yan claims the virus was made in the Wuhan lab.

 

[CSIDreamer]

This is so irresponsible IMO.

“I think this was a blessing from God that I caught it,” Mr. Trump said in the nearly five-minute video, released just over three hours before Vice President Mike Pence was scheduled to debate the Democratic vice-presidential nominee, Senator Kamala Harris of California.

In a video that was supposed to have been released a day earlier, Mr. Trump explained he considered getting ill with a virus that has killed more than one million people, including more than 211,000 Americans, such a “blessing” because he ended up taking an experimental antibody cocktail, still in clinical trials, that is produced by Regeneron.

“I call that a cure,” said Mr. Trump, whose skin appeared darkened by makeup and who appeared to struggle to get air at times. He then said everyone should have access to the not-yet-approved drug for “free” and that he would make sure it was in every hospital as soon as possible.

Trump Live Updates: President Says Catching Virus Was ‘Blessing From God’ and Promises to Speed Approval of Drugs

BBM

I hope more people do get access to it, the treatment. I think it's wonderful he is doing so well. Not many people in his position would agree to an experimental drug in order to help get the treatment out. JMO

 

[LadyL]

Supply chain issues...ahen.

Meaning? Most of our appliances come from China. Or used to. Even if they were made in Malaysia or several other Asian places, they may have come on Chinese freighters.

Also...there's now a problem with repackaging and refurbishing things returned to stores. Like Lowe's. It's really hard to return big items (we've had to, obviously previously opened, but then resealed with those giant staples...)

Get your winter heaters! (We can't find an actual whole house heater in our size - so we're without central heating, but, it's hard to even imagine we'll ever need it, it's been so hot, besides I'd love to wear a sweater some time).

according to the article which is Canadian, our appliances come from China and the U.S. and the supply chain issues = 'physical distancing, increased cleaning and absenteeism, have affected production.'

 

[LadyL]

I wondered about this. Still trying to get a chest freezer but most places are out of stock. I see them on Wayfair and some other sites, but don't want to buy one somewhere where I can't easily return it if we have problems. We had to order a new garbage disposal, and wanted to get the same model that we had originally installed, so all the pipe fittings etc. would align and we could install it ourselves without too much fuss. We watched a YouTube video and did install it when it finally arrived. But it was out of stock at Home Depot, Lowe's, Menards, Walmart, etc. so we had to order online and wait a few weeks.

we've been in the market for an upright freezer but keep delaying ordering to the point we might not receive one before Christmas - entirely our own fault

 

[sds71]

The US pharmaceutical firm Eli Lilly on Wednesday announced it had applied for an emergency use authorization (EUA) for a lab-produced antibody treatment against Covid-19, after early trial results showed it reduced viral load, symptoms and hospitalization rates.

"Our teams have worked tirelessly the last seven months to discover and develop these potential antibody treatments," said Daniel Skovronsky, Lilly's chief scientific officer.

The company is studying two treatments: one is a "monotherapy" of one antibody, and the other is a "combination therapy" of two antibodies working together.

Eli Lilly applies for emergency approval for Covid-19 antibodies

 

[10ofRods]

RBBM. I have to admit this is huge, and I'm not a traveler. But I never really thought I'd see the day when I can't just buy a ticket and go where I want, or drive to Montreal. I never thought I'd see any of the things that happened, but somehow losing the freedom to travel is bothering me the most.

Me too. I'm getting slowly adjusted to everything else and finding work-arounds.

This phase of my life was supposed to involve travel. Saved for years. So many of my colleagues are in the same boat - we finally can afford to take summers off and travel a little. We had our list of places. I am glad I did get to travel in the past, so sad for today's group of young would-be world travelers/couch surfers.

 

[Sundog]

we've been in the market for an upright freezer but keep delaying ordering to the point we might not receive one before Christmas - entirely our own fault

My brother in Ontario got one at Canadian Tire. But that was a few months ago. Can't find one here anywhere, except online at Wayfair or ebay. I want to buy one from a store with a 90 day warranty, at least, because I have read all the reviews and often their are problems with them. Also, Wayfair charges almost double what they cost at Walmart and other stores (when they have them in), and reviewers say that the shipped freezers almost always arrive dented. Good luck, hope you find one and can get one soon!