Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #84

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I had read the article about the NH restaurant since that is home to me.... and the owner's quote of "what happened to live free or die" rang so clear. Any controversary in NH will end up with this statement.
But the article about Idaho (Public Health Board ignores Doctors pleas) was so sad:

“I want to be very clear: Punting those decisions is saying we’re willing to put that burden on the shoulders of our front line staff,” said Mike Fenello, vice president of population health for St. Luke’s Magic Valley facilities. “Will you please help those on the front lines? They need you to help. So please help.”


The board voted to not help.

I do understand the call for freedom - but most of us are required to do things we don't want to do. I pay taxes that only partly go where I want them to. I have to wear a shirt in public. I have to wear shoes in a restaurant because of health reasons.

If I changed a baby's diaper on a restaurant table, I'd be booted. No freedom to do that.

This is like that.
 
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I can't drink anything sparkly due to being treated with Alka Seltzer as a child. I think it was meant to help an upset stomach but it turned me off sparkly drinks for life.

How on earth did we ever live through "Grandma's cures"? I can't smell or drink ginger ale to this day or Vicks. Just, no.
 
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I’m not sure where you are, but where I live it’s never been “open slather”. Nor has it been “open slather” in the states I’ve traveled to.

ok...so what do we mean by "open slather"
Ginger ale, sweet oil, Vick's, cherry cough syrup, iodine, mecuricome, methiolate, chicken noodle soup, what else?

Vicks has been reported to cause inflammation in the eyes, mental status changes, lung inflammation, liver damage, constriction of airways and allergic reactions.

Use of petroleum-based over the counter remedies such as Vicks VapoRub to alleviate symptoms of rhinitis is common and can be effective, but carries under-appreciated risks of adverse side effects. In this case report we highlight Exogenous Lipoid Pneumonia (ELP), an uncommon condition that results from accumulation of exogenous lipids in the alveoli, as an adverse side effect of long-term Vicks VapoRub use.

It contains camphor which is toxic if swallowed or absorbed into the body and the manufacturers do in fact warn that VapoRub should not be applied in or near the nostrils and not used on children under 2 years of age.
 
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Well I actually saw it differently........ I saw the action of the United States buying it all up back then, is influencing the FDA now. The DOJ, CDC, FDA are all not as non-political as they used to be, so I am weary. There were some good discussions about generic versions in other countries up thread, but as far as I have seen it is still under patent.

I feel the confusing information will keep coming....so we should know more along the way....

thanks for the explanation, understood now.
 
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I can see more people trying to buy kettles online, maybe second hand. Or in Op Shops (charity stores)
To me a kettle is a basic essential.

Food and medicine are never the only necessities. I saw clothes were banned in the other article. Like small children aren't allowed to grow and need new shoes or winter clothes? Like who does it benefit to block access to a kettle when the shopper is already in the store?!
 
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Panic alert - getting serious now. I mean, if your kettle breaks in this country, that IS an actual emergency :rolleyes:

Supermarket staff in Wales today covered up kettles on shelves as 'power mad' First Minister Mark Drakeford banned the sale of 'non-essential' items during the country's coronavirus firebreak lockdown.

Supermarket swoop! Tesco staff in Wales COVER UP kettles and bedding on shelves under new lockdown | Daily Mail Online

How stupid. It is not surprising people don't take everything seriously when things like this happen.

they cant even buy coke???!!! that's essential for me right now (rum & coke lol)
I see someone broke through the wrapping on one stack though

ETA: never mind it looks like they were just using the stacks of coke to block access to other aisles? but the stacks of coke are wrapped up too ... not sure
 
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I do understand the call for freedom - but most of us are required to do things we don't want to do. I pay taxes that only partly go where I want them to. I have to wear a shirt in public. I have to wear shoes in a restaurant because of health reasons.

If I changed a baby's diaper on a restaurant table, I'd be booted. No freedom to do that.

This is like that.

Throughout this entire pandemic, I am reminded of the words of one of our famous leaders....ask not what your country can do for you but.................
 
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The U.S. has long funded its own PSA's (and states have too). But now that broadcast TV isn't much of a thing, that's gone. We have defunded our own public broadcasting system (which mostly kids watched).

It's a big problem. I've had three batches of students since the pandemic began and for the most part, they were shocked to learn how many people in their own county had died, how many had CoVid, what ethnic groups they were, what jobs they had, etc. They knew nothing about it. Zilch.

They also don't know the symptoms. Even now, on the last quiz where I threw in a few symptom questions, a lot of them missed some of the main symptoms. In fact, congestion or runny nose is not, according to my students, a symptom of CoVid. This is after they were supposed to watch several videos and read some brief articles. Headaches don't count either. Some of them couldn't pick the right definition for the word "fatigue" so it's no wonder that they didn't think that was a symptom.

Given that young people aged 18-25 are a big vector where I live, it's concerning that they know so little. Most claim to be staying home as much as possible and wearing masks if they go out. The vast majority (~90%) live with their parents...they say they don't want to get their parents sick.

I still have some weeks to go with the current batch and the numbers are improving on those simple test questions, so by the final exam I do hope to have some of it drilled into them.
groan.............
 
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Health officials warn of possible coronavirus exposure at 5 New Hampshire restaurants

more at link
CONCORD, N.H. (WHDH) - Health officials in New Hampshire are warning the public of at least 13 positive coronavirus cases that have been linked to at least five restaurants in the state.

The Department of Health and Human Services says it has identified potential community exposure related to five food and beverage establishments in three different communities.
 
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Panic alert - getting serious now. I mean, if your kettle breaks in this country, that IS an actual emergency :rolleyes:

Supermarket staff in Wales today covered up kettles on shelves as 'power mad' First Minister Mark Drakeford banned the sale of 'non-essential' items during the country's coronavirus firebreak lockdown.

Supermarket swoop! Tesco staff in Wales COVER UP kettles and bedding on shelves under new lockdown | Daily Mail Online

How stupid. It is not surprising people don't take everything seriously when things like this happen.
That's so strange! I'll read the article to figure out the logic. I'm guessing it's so that people won't go to the store JUST for non-essentials. ??
 
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I should also mention that my DH makes his students use a dictionary to look up ordinary words, and they complained to the department chair (3-4 of them). The first complaint was over the word "thoroughfare" which apparently was very puzzling to SoCal college students.

The other word was proponent (for which DH helpfully gave them a clue: opposite of opponent). 3 students complained that this was "too hard." The department chair is young and inexperienced, because none of the older faculty can deal with it any more.

They apparently thought lessons should be given on how to use a dictionary. That's what the tutorial center is for (and yes, there's a 24 hour online tutor program that has some poor human available to help each student with things of this type).
 
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That's so strange! I'll read the article to figure out the logic. I'm guessing it's so that people won't go to the store JUST for non-essentials. ??

Yep, they don't want browsers. So ok, hide the scatter cushions and candles, but for the love of god don't take our kettles away.

Joking aside, if someone needs a kettle or whatever, they now have to go into two shops instead of one. Hmmm, perhaps that's why they're doing it, to stop the big supermarkets monopolising on customers. Kind of defeats one of the points. Anyway, I'm not going in Aldi if they take away the middle aisle of randomness... best bit.
 
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U.S. hits all-time high in daily new coronavirus cases

Apparently it's now over 80,000 (83,000) with US new cases today. Highest ever reported. :(

Also, 60 Minutes is doing an expose of the Costa Luminosa cruise ship situation back in March. Very damning info coming out about the Coronavirus response there.

Collapsing passengers, CDC missteps and "public health malpractice": The story of the COVID flight from hell - CBS News
Cruise ships.....yeah I vaguely remember those....though it seems like a lifetime ago
 
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Health officials warn of possible coronavirus exposure at 5 New Hampshire restaurants

more at link
CONCORD, N.H. (WHDH) - Health officials in New Hampshire are warning the public of at least 13 positive coronavirus cases that have been linked to at least five restaurants in the state.

The Department of Health and Human Services says it has identified potential community exposure related to five food and beverage establishments in three different communities.

I don't know when i will ever feel comfortable dining in a restaurant again!!! and that is sad
 
  • #1,019
Throughout this entire pandemic, I am reminded of the words of one of our famous leaders....ask not what your country can do for you but.................
Wonderful JFK saying, but IMO for a long time in this country it's been ask what you can do for yourself.
 
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Yep, they don't want browsers. So ok, hide the scatter cushions and candles, but for the love of god don't take our kettles away.

Joking aside, if someone needs a kettle or whatever, they now have to go into two shops instead of one. Hmmm, perhaps that's why they're doing it, to stop the big supermarkets monopolising on customers. Kind of defeats one of the points. Anyway, I'm not going in Aldi if they take away the middle aisle of randomness... best bit.

Our Aisle of Shame has drastically decreased in quantity and quality this year. But I think Aldi's prices are worth it even without it.
 
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