Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #84

[Colorado303]

I get sick of the no maskers. Someone told me the other day that they've proven that masks don't work. I told him differently, that the study he was referring to was flawed, and that masks are part of the solution, no, not 100%, but still an essential part.
I'm also a retired RN, and there is obviously a reason that when we had patients in isolation, that we all wore masks!
But I'm sure it went in one ear and out the other. Well we can't save everyone can we.
Has anyone seen this? I think it's so cool.

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Very cool!!! It should be on TV.

 

[Tigerlily75]

The impression I get from the individual reports is that these people most likely have loved ones in Australia. They weren't 'tourists' in the traditional sense, if that makes sense? One woman was attending her father's funeral, another was being reunited with their fiance whom they hadn't seen (in person) since February.

I'm with you, I would not be keen to travel under any circumstances at the moment. But I can't say for sure how I would react if family needed me.

Definitely, everything here in Melbourne is shut so no one is coming here for fun, that’s for sure, so they must have some kind of family or even work reason for coming.

My brother is a dual Oz/NZ citizen and has been stuck in Queensland since March. He works in QLD as FIFO and has a partner and house in Wellington. He normally travels between the two (I thinks it’s two weeks on two weeks off or similar). Certainly many have strong connections between the two countries whether family, work, love or some other reason!

 

[GRT]

Interest in taking a vaccine is dropping and, unbelievably, it seems to be for political reasons. That's a shame.

The share of Americans who say they are likely to get a Covid-19 vaccine as soon as it’s available is dropping — and the decline is notably more pronounced among Black Americans than among white individuals, according to a new survey from STAT and The Harris Poll.

Overall, 58% of the U.S. public said they would get vaccinated as soon as a vaccine was available when asked earlier this month, down considerably from 69% who said the same thing in mid-August.

Poll: Fewer Americans want a Covid-19 vaccine as soon as possible

 

[GRT]

I get sick of the no maskers. Someone told me the other day that they've proven that masks don't work. I told him differently, that the study he was referring to was flawed, and that masks are part of the solution, no, not 100%, but still an essential part.
I'm also a retired RN, and there is obviously a reason that when we had patients in isolation, that we all wore masks!
But I'm sure it went in one ear and out the other. Well we can't save everyone can we.
Has anyone seen this? I think it's so cool.

For the past six weeks or so, I don't think I've seen anyone in any store I've been in without a mask. I've seen some folks wearing them incorrectly, such as pushed below their noses, but very, very few.

I do hear people objecting to wearing masks, but they still wear them. At least they do where I am.

For the most part, everyone seems to be following the rules, and while that video is cute, stuff like that is part of the problem because it's divisive and it downplays the ideas of others. In short, stuff like that is part of the problem, not part of the solution.

I say we all just wear our masks and continue to encourage others to wears theirs. It's going to be a while until we're all in the clear and safe again.

 

[SouthAussie]

For the past six weeks or so, I don't think I've seen anyone in any store I've been in without a mask. I've seen some folks wearing them incorrectly, such as pushed below their noses, but very, very few.

I do hear people objecting to wearing masks, but they still wear them. At least they do where I am.

For the most part, everyone seems to be following the rules, and while that video is cute, stuff like that is part of the problem because it's divisive and it downplays the ideas of others. In short, stuff like that is part of the problem, not part of the solution.

I say we all just wear our masks and continue to encourage others to wears theirs. It's going to be a while until we're all in the clear and safe again.

Let's not take our focus off the fact that thousands of people are still dying though ... during this seemingly very long and slow encouragement period.

 

[neesaki]

For the past six weeks or so, I don't think I've seen anyone in any store I've been in without a mask. I've seen some folks wearing them incorrectly, such as pushed below their noses, but very, very few.

I do hear people objecting to wearing masks, but they still wear them. At least they do where I am.

For the most part, everyone seems to be following the rules, and while that video is cute, stuff like that is part of the problem because it's divisive and it downplays the ideas of others. In short, stuff like that is part of the problem, not part of the solution.

I say we all just wear our masks and continue to encourage others to wears theirs. It's going to be a while until we're all in the clear and safe again.

In my home state, Texas, since the stores are now opened up more, I have unfortunately seen more and more people not wearing masks. Back when the stores were allowing only so many people inside and they had only one entrance/ exit open, almost everyone wore masks. This was also when there were store employees at the door handing out masks.

So it appears that people have in short order grown more and more careless, not wearing masks. Same with some of the restaurants, sitting customers at tables that are too close together and some employees without masks. So apparently the owner or management isn’t enforcing the guidelines even with employees. I will personally stay out of those restaurants.

One thing that’s interesting to me, is that one state over, Arkansas, everyone is still wearing masks in the stores, and the restaurants we went in were more stringent in following the guidelines. Maybe that varies within the state, Idk as we were only in one area.
Now, unfortunately, with a surge in cases Dallas county (not my county) had to go back to red, which is essential activities only.... shop only once per week if possible, people strongly encouraged not to eat in restaurants and get curbside / takeout only, etc. Not that it will be enforced.

I guess my point is, if people would only have stuck with it and continued to follow the recommended precautions maybe this wouldn’t have happened. I don’t think the video is divisive, it’s just encouraging people to wear masks. I’m also all for everyone having their own ideas, but don’t see that as a reason for being selfish and irresponsible. Jmo

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I get sick of the no maskers. Someone told me the other day that they've proven that masks don't work. I told him differently, that the study he was referring to was flawed, and that masks are part of the solution, no, not 100%, but still an essential part.
I'm also a retired RN, and there is obviously a reason that when we had patients in isolation, that we all wore masks!
But I'm sure it went in one ear and out the other. Well we can't save everyone can we.
Has anyone seen this? I think it's so cool.

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Love it! And I have shared to quite a few folks.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I was listening to a radio interview with Thelma Plumb this morning (a 25 year old popular Aussie singer). She had covid back in March, when she was in London UK.

She was speaking about her experience. Fighting for breath, in hospital for a week, took her two months before she could sing again.

She said one of the weirdest ongoing after effects she has is the 'messing up' of her taste and smell. She can't eat meat any more because it tastes rancid to her, so she has become a vegetarian. And many other things smell and taste like garbage or ammonia.


“I lost my smell and my taste when I had COVID,” Plum said.
“It came back and I was really happy and now I’ve developed this thing called dysosmia, so everything I smell and taste smells like ammonia and garbage and rancid meats.”
‘You can’t say that!’ Lisa Wilkinson couldn't

Yes, this seems to be one of the most reported long haul symptoms, and that brain fog. Can you imagine---ammonia!!

This is why it is just so frightening to so many of us who are older....
I have a little bit of this and a little bit of that (medication for high blood pressure...but easily maintained. A little extra poundage on my beautiful older hips.. but no big deal).

BUT if we get the disease, and then have any of the long haul symptoms.... really, total life changing scenario....

 

[SouthAussie]

As the world awaits a COVID-19 vaccine, UNICEF has begun laying the groundwork for the rapid, safe and efficient delivery of the eventual vaccine by purchasing and pre-positioning syringes and other necessary equipment.

As soon as COVID-19 vaccines successfully emerge from trials and are licensed and recommended for use, the world will need as many syringes as doses of vaccine. To begin preparations, this year, UNICEF will stockpile 520 million syringes in its warehouses, part of a larger plan of 1 billion syringes by 2021, to guarantee initial supply and help ensure that syringes arrive in countries before the COVID-19 vaccines.

“Vaccinating the world against COVID-19 will be one of the largest mass undertakings in human history, and we will need to move as quickly as the vaccines can be produced,” said Henrietta Fore, UNICEF Executive Director.

UNICEF to stockpile over half a billion syringes by year end, as part of efforts to prepare for eventual COVID-19 vaccinations

 

[dixiegirl1035]

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[nhmemorymaker]

I get sick of the no maskers. Someone told me the other day that they've proven that masks don't work. I told him differently, that the study he was referring to was flawed, and that masks are part of the solution, no, not 100%, but still an essential part.
I'm also a retired RN, and there is obviously a reason that when we had patients in isolation, that we all wore masks!
But I'm sure it went in one ear and out the other. Well we can't save everyone can we.
Has anyone seen this? I think it's so cool.

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Thanks SOOO much for finding this one... Definitely going to share... and sing along too.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Definitely, everything here in Melbourne is shut so no one is coming here for fun, that’s for sure, so they must have some kind of family or even work reason for coming.

My brother is a dual Oz/NZ citizen and has been stuck in Queensland since March. He works in QLD as FIFO and has a partner and house in Wellington. He normally travels between the two (I thinks it’s two weeks on two weeks off or similar). Certainly many have strong connections between the two countries whether family, work, love or some other reason!

Thank you all for this interesting NZ OZ discussion. Seeing what problems and successes happens with two "sane" countries is helpful. We learn nuances rather than chaos.

 

[ilovewings]

Yes, this seems to be one of the most reported long haul symptoms, and that brain fog. Can you imagine---ammonia!!

This is why it is just so frightening to so many of us who are older....
I have a little bit of this and a little bit of that (medication for high blood pressure...but easily maintained. A little extra poundage on my beautiful older hips.. but no big deal).

BUT if we get the disease, and then have any of the long haul symptoms.... really, total life changing scenario....

Like you, as an older person, I am frightened, not only of getting the virus, but the horrible sequelae that so many people have. Brain fog-- loss of smell and taste, or perversion of smell and taste so that there is the smell of ammonia-- plus all the other long-haul post viral medical problems. Evil virus.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Gym closed? No problem!

Gym Turns into a Church to Beat New Coronavirus Restrictions

The manager of The Atlantic Sports and Fitness Club in Kraków, Poland explained that instead of focusing on fitness, it will now be a shop where people can come and try out its machines and also the 'Church of the Healthy Body'.

"Since fitness classes cannot function, religious congregation of members of the pn union are starting today at our club, 'Church of the Healthy Body'. Hard to believe? Everything is possible in this world. Enlightened Olek and Czcigodna Gosia invite you to special religious events today."

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I can't recall here who are psych professionals or perhaps @10ofRods can digest more for us here? I do recall discussion re literacy skills, but this one specifically states "numeracy skills"? e.g. how exponential growth occurs and the dangers for such? Need an expert/someone in that field to explain as I am IGNORANT of the meaning/interpretation and am reaching out here to others.

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/pdf/10.1098/rsos.201199

Susceptibility to misinformation aboutCOVID-19 around the world
Subject Category - psychology and cognitive neuroscience
Department of Psychology, University of Cambridge, Downing St., CB2 3EB Cambridge, UK2Section of Slavonic Studies, University of Cambridge, Sidgwick Avenue, CB3 9DA Cambridge, UK3Winton Centre for Risk and Evidence Communication, University of Cambridge,Wilberforce Road, CB3 0WA Cambridge, UK4Department of Psychology, University of Groningen, Grote Kruisstraat 2/1, 9712 TSGroningen, The Netherlands

Abstract
Misinformation about COVID-19 is a major threat to public health.

Using five national samples from the UK (n=1050 and n=1150),Ireland (n= 700), the USA (n=700), Spain (n=700) and Mexico(n=700), we examine predictors of belief in the most common statements about the virus that contain misinformation. We also investigate the prevalence of belief in COVID-19 misinformation across different countries and the role of belief in such misinformation in predicting relevant health behaviours.

We find that while public belief in misinformation about COVID-19is not particularly common, a substantial proportion views this type of misinformation as highly reliable in each country surveyed. In addition, a small group of participants find common factual information about the virus highly unreliable.

We also find that increased susceptibility to misinformation negatively affects people’s self-reported compliance with public health guidance about COVID-19, as well as people’s willingness to get vaccinated against the virus and to recommend the vaccine to vulnerable friends and family.

Across all countries surveyed, we find that higher trust in scientists and having higher numeracy skills were associated with lower susceptibility to coronavirus-related misinformation. Taken together, these results demonstrate a clear link between susceptibility to misinformation and both vaccine hesitancy and a reduced likelihood to comply with health guidance measures, and suggest that interventions which aim to improve critical thinking and trust in science may be a promising avenue for future research.

ETA: BUBM

 

[nhmemorymaker]

What is more troubling to me is ---> what science experts will work with US administration any more??

Sure T dumps on Fauci, but we all know his record of many years is stellar.
Sure Scott Atlas appears to be misinforming people, but many experts are calling him out.
Sure certain State leaders are working hard to not disclose Covid numbers.

But who will be left to really lead people in the right direction?, besides a very clever Beauty and the Beast Medley!!

Hopefully, hardworking but very weary governors and state scientists will not let their guard down.

DeSantis suggests scaling back frequency of reporting COVID cases

Stanford researchers say they won't be silenced after criticizing Trump's coronavirus advisor Dr. Scott Atlas

 

[GRT]

Let's not take our focus off the fact that thousands of people are still dying though ... during this seemingly very long and slow encouragement period.

I agree that has to be our focus, and because of that, we need to proceed in a manner that is most likely to get people to act safely.

I'm one of those "you catch more bees with honey..." people. I believe most people do what they think is right, so in order to protect more people, we need to help them understand that wearing masks and taking other precautions is the right thing to do. I believe we will be more successful if we lead by example and be encouraging.

What I'm seeing, however, is negativity and judgementalism, and I don't think that will convince anyone to wear a mask if they don't want to. I think it will do the opposite and make them rebellious.

So, if our purpose is to truly put a lid on this virus, I think we have to express ourselves to our families, friends, and others in a positive sense, not by calling them names or being divisive.

And, isn't that what all of us want? To stop the virus and stop the death toll from rising? I know that if someone asks me nicely to do a favor, I'm more likely to do it than if they tell me I'm a moron.

I just think we could be going about this in a much more positive and efficient way.

 

[GRT]

Like you, as an older person, I am frightened, not only of getting the virus, but the horrible sequelae that so many people have. Brain fog-- loss of smell and taste, or perversion of smell and taste so that there is the smell of ammonia-- plus all the other long-haul post viral medical problems. Evil virus.

The ammonia smell would be very difficult to live with. How can someone eat nutritious foods if they smell awful? I wonder what percentage of infected people develop that effect and how long it persists.

 

[GRT]

Gym closed? No problem!

Gym Turns into a Church to Beat New Coronavirus Restrictions

The manager of The Atlantic Sports and Fitness Club in Kraków, Poland explained that instead of focusing on fitness, it will now be a shop where people can come and try out its machines and also the 'Church of the Healthy Body'.

"Since fitness classes cannot function, religious congregation of members of the pn union are starting today at our club, 'Church of the Healthy Body'. Hard to believe? Everything is possible in this world. Enlightened Olek and Czcigodna Gosia invite you to special religious events today."

Now, I've heard everything! LOL

 

[weepingangel]

and who knows what else is coming down the line. We’re not even a year into this.

Like you, as an older person, I am frightened, not only of getting the virus, but the horrible sequelae that so many people have. Brain fog-- loss of smell and taste, or perversion of smell and taste so that there is the smell of ammonia-- plus all the other long-haul post viral medical problems. Evil virus.