Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #86

[LadyL]

I wish people would focus on this part of the problem a little. We are hearing it over and over. Nurses are not something you can ramp up quickly. They need years of study and training.
Even here, where our problem is lesser, a retired nurse friend of mine was asked to come out of retirement and help with the Victorian outbreak.

It is a really huge reason why this virus needs to be put under control.


"Nurses are working beyond their normal hours and being requested on a regular basis to cover for vacancies," said McKenna in an interview.

"I've got to tell you, they're weary, they're tired," she said.

"How long can they continue to work at this pace and deliver the care that they need to and that they want to? That's what they're worried about when they're stretched so thin."

and that is before flu cases start this year
I'm really worried that we're headed for catastrophe this winter

 

[margarita25]

Just hit us with a meteor already, FGS.

(vent)

 

[SouthAussie]

and that is before flu cases start this year
I'm really worried that we're headed for catastrophe this winter

Yes. Every type of serious illness or serious medical ailment is affected by nursing shortages and tired nurses. Quality of care can diminish seriously at times like this.

 

[mickey2942]

Colorado COVID-19 Data Much Worse, Deniers Don't Care

“The latest data from the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment about COVID-19 is startlingly bad, with third-wave case numbers close to triple those of the first two waves, and hospitalizations at a point not seen since April. But even with Denver and Adams counties now classified as high-risk areas and several other municipalities flirting with a potential stay-at-home designation, a percentage of the populace spent this weekend engaging in pandemic-defying behavior, including a so-called "MAGA Drag the Interstate" rally and Halloween parties allegedly involving scads of University of Colorado Boulder students.“

Which won't mean anything if people can keep flying into the airports. Driving across 1-80.

 

[GRT]

Whether you like him or not ... that research was opened back up in December 2017. And being involved with the research has some very valid aspects, as discussed earlier in the threads. A country can remain ignorant and uninvolved, or it can oversee and ensure that safety is adhered to. So that lab experiments do not leave the lab.

And it wasn't Dr Fauci who reopened the research.


"We have a responsibility to ensure that research with infectious agents is conducted responsibly, and that we consider the potential biosafety and biosecurity risks associated with such research."
Feds lift gain-of-function research pause, offer guidance

I know that, and I am not a fan of anyone involved in lifting the Obama era ban. I don't like the idea of messing around with dangerous viruses that can get loose and kill millions. Those who lifted the ban are just as bad in my book as those who opposed the ban in the first place. I get the idea that we want to be "ahead" of other nations, but too many scientists have said it's a very bad idea. Like creating nuclear weapons, I think it's very hard to put the genie back in the bottle once she escapes.

 

[SouthAussie]

I know that, and I am not a fan of anyone involved in lifting the Obama era ban. I don't like the idea of messing around with dangerous viruses that can get loose and kill millions. Those who lifted the ban are just as bad in my book as those who opposed the ban in the first place. I get the idea that we want to be "ahead" of other nations, but too many scientists have said it's a very bad idea. Like creating nuclear weapons, I think it's very hard to put the genie back in the bottle once she escapes.

It is not a matter of being ahead of other nations.
It is a matter of being ready for the next pandemic.
It is also a matter of overseeing the safety of what is happening elsewhere. Other places are not stopping this kind of research ... especially places where the viruses have first been born.

The 1918 virus is said to have started in Kansas. Be prepared, or be bowled over as the US currently is, and was in 1918.

IMO

 

[ilovewings]

Went to a deli today for carry out and asked to filled out contract tracing info-
here in Southeast Michigan there is a new mandate if you are dining
in you have to fill out info for contact tracing-- since it was a carry
out i was surprised I was asked to fill it out, but of course i did

 

[mickey2942]

It is not a matter of being ahead of other nations.
It is a matter of being ready for the next pandemic.
It is also a matter of overseeing the safety of what is happening elsewhere. Other places are not stopping this kind of research ... especially places where the viruses have first been born.

The 1918 virus is said to have started in Kansas. Be prepared, or be bowled over as the US currently is, and was in 1918.

IMO

"Well, Toto, we are not in Kansas any longer.".

 

[margarita25]

@10ofRods, @dixiegirl1035, and other science nerds (I say this affectionately :wink: ), I just had a crazy thought:

Do you think it’s possible that a child could be more susceptible to zoonotic spillover than an adult? Weird question I know. I don’t know if that’s something that could even be answered, and would certainly be one for Dr. Maria.

eta:
There’s a reason why I ask this— I am recalling a video of children sitting and playing on top of the cages at a wet market.

 

[SouthAussie]

"Well, Toto, we are not in Kansas any longer.".

Nope. It is in every state and every country ... just about.
Just like 1918.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Great marketing campaign as we go into another lockdown; a few Brownie points for BK.

Burger King urges customers to 'order from McDonald's' | Daily Mail Online

 

[charminglane]

Great marketing campaign as we go into another lockdown; a few Brownie points for BK.

Burger King urges customers to 'order from McDonald's' | Daily Mail Online

I just did my part.

 

[SouthAussie]

Great marketing campaign as we go into another lockdown; a few Brownie points for BK.

Burger King urges customers to 'order from McDonald's' | Daily Mail Online

Just jumping off your post. Most/all of our burger chain outlets have touch screen ordering here - away from the counter - with sanitiser readily available. As well as socially distanced marks on the floor, showing where to stand while you wait. And now we are allowed to sit at socially distanced tables as well (which wasn't the case a few months ago). Their playgrounds are still closed. They are really trying hard to protect their staff (and us).

We only have one Burger King here, in Sydney International airport. All the other "Burger Kings" are called Hungry Jacks.
They have the same logo/colours/menu/everything as Burger King. But they couldn't be called Burger King (except in that one international space at Sydney airport) because a little restaurant in Queensland was called Burger King - before the chain arrived here - and the owners would not relinquish the name, no matter how much they were enticed.

Just some related/unrelated trivia.

 

[anneg]

All but one region of Illinois has now increased mitigation measures and shut down indoor dining and indoor bar service.

Indoor dining and bar service will close on Wednesday across Heart of Illinois

Hmm, I have cousins in Knox County. Didn't know that area is called "Heart of Illinois."

 

[Sillybilly]

Attention:

More and more blatantly political posts are having to be removed.

If this continues, permanent thread bans will be issued.

 

[anneg]

Outbreak data | Colorado COVID-19 Updates

(making note to check for similar maps in other states - if you guys find them, please post, just google “x state outbreak map”, or “...data”, etc. tia.)

I don't think NC has anything like that Colorado map you posted.

 

[margarita25]

Algorithm spots 'Covid cough' inaudible to humans

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In pictures: Day of the Dead in Covid times

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Whether you like him or not ... that research was opened back up in December 2017. And being involved with the research has some very valid aspects, as discussed earlier in the threads. A country can remain ignorant and uninvolved, or it can oversee and ensure that safety is adhered to. So that lab experiments do not leave the lab.

And it wasn't Dr Fauci who reopened the research.


"We have a responsibility to ensure that research with infectious agents is conducted responsibly, and that we consider the potential biosafety and biosecurity risks associated with such research."
Feds lift gain-of-function research pause, offer guidance

Yes, we discussed this at nauseum earlier in the thread, when people just wanted to jump on an anti -scientist bandwagon.
He has been a steadfast loyal scientist through all these decades, and just now people want to find selective criticisms. For what? I have no worries about how the history books will treat him, but I want him to stay.
I know we have a roaring revolving door in the US administration, but I am glad he is sticking it out. And Brix too.

 

[margarita25]

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[Colorado303]

oh no!
keep us posted

Store opened back up today I talked to a manager who confirmed they had closed because an employee or employees are suspected of contracting COVID. Those cases are “still under evaluation” and she wasn’t able to tell me if test results have come back, or who/how many employees may test positive. She probably wasn’t supposed to but did indicate the person who actually gave me the vaccine isn’t under evaluation. That’s some comfort but I spent more time waiting around other employees than I did w/the shot giver so like millions of others I’m isolating and hoping I’m just being overly cautious.

@margarita25 posted several articles upthread about the COVID spike in CO and I’m seeing it. My mother’s care facility has been maniacal about staying virus free and had been successful up to now. But after a couple of employees got sick and tested positive they locked down and tested everybody. Got an email today announcing several more staff members and some patients have tested positive. I’m waiting for a call back to find out my Mom’s test results.

Given how many people here either don’t wear masks or are around others who don’t, I expect those of us in CO will soon all have friends or family members who contract COVID. I will be a bumpy ride here for the next month, especially if they don’t tighten restrictions and start enforcing health mandates.

Stay safe!