Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #87

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Iowa numbers today: As of 10:00-11:00 a.m., we had 3,896 new "confirmed" cases for a total of 194,479 confirmed cases of which 111,288 are recovering (+1,359). Sadly, 40 more were reported to have passed for a total of 2,064 (this is the highest number I can remember reporting at one time). There are 83,191 active positive cases with 24 hr. positity rate of 41% according to KWWL.
234 were hospitalized in the last 24 hrs. for a total of 1,527 (new daily record +17). Here are the approximate daily age group (6 total short to match today's total): 0-17: 18,674 (+469); 18-40: 83,284 (+1,439); 41-60: 55,273 (+1,149); 61-80: 29,091 (+696); & 81+: 8,107 (+137) Nov. 18: 40 deaths from COVID-19, 3,896 new cases
Iowa COVID-19 Information Daily case totals updated at 11:00 a.m.
Iowa COVID-19 Information Current hospital data
 
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Just a side note, how many of us had the words "quarantine", "isolation" and "pandemic" as words that were part of normal, every day conversation before this year?

BBM - Well, considering I have very bad social anxiety, "isolation" is an old friend to me, lol. :p We've been together a long time.

The others? No, they were just plot devices in out-of-control-end-of-the-world sci fi movies. Never expected to be living through it in real life.
 
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They decided that the small number of cars outside the Provo facility was evidence that the pandemic is a hoax. They entered the hospital with video cameras seeking to film what they believed would be an equally empty ICU.

“It’s conspiracy theorists that believe what they’re being told is not accurate,” hospital administrator Kyle Hansen told the Provo city council last week. “They’re determined to videotape and capture the proof of that by accessing our facilities. We’ve had some people get really creative in how they’ve lied about coming in for an appointment or other things.”

None of the intruders seem to have gained entry to the ICU. But had they succeeded, they would have only been able to document it was in fact at full capacity, with a brave and dedicated staff under great physical and emotional strain. Had the intruders been less deluded they might have understood that the small number cars in the parking lot is explained by posted restrictions on visitors that are standard at hospitals during the pandemic. COVID-19 is not some minor illness where you might drive yourself to the hospital and leave your car outside for a few hours.

“They’re idiots,” Bryan Grossman (widower of a CONVID-19 patient) told The Daily Beast on Tuesday, adding, “The hospital is filled with COVID people. COVID patients who don’t have cars… I just don’t understand people sometimes.”

Delusional COVID Truthers Try to Invade Hospital Where This Mom Died Too Soon
 
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Just a side note, how many of us had the words "quarantine", "isolation" and "pandemic" as words that were part of normal, every day conversation before this year?

Quarantine was for dogs, isolation was for prisoners, and pandemic was something that couldn't possibly happen in our great nations in this day and age.

And then there's "lockdown"....officially the Word Of The Year in one of the English dictionaries.
 
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As Covid-19 Surges, Florida Sticks to No Statewide Restrictions
Gov. DeSantis vows state will never again issue lockdown, prevents local officials from enforcing mandates

“MIAMI—As new coronavirus cases soar to record highs around the U.S., many states are reimposing restrictions on daily life. Not Florida.

Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis is sticking to one of the most permissive approaches to the pandemic—allowing bars, restaurants, theaters and theme parks to operate at full capacity. He has vowed the state would never again implement lockdowns.”



I know someone who is having a 150 person wedding - well, they've asked 150 but no idea how many are going; we are not. A month ago they told me I was trying to ruin their wedding day. We are in much worse shape today than we were a month ago.
 
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Just a side note, how many of us had the words "quarantine", "isolation" and "pandemic" as words that were part of normal, every day conversation before this year?

Last year I met with a group of women to decide if we could start a book club or three. Discussing our favorite genres, I mentioned apocalyptic and post-apocalyptic fiction, and another woman said, "Oh, I do too! What's your favorite?" I replied "I just love a good pandemic." The looks we got!
 
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Thank you dixie, the video is very helpful. So 5,000 had comorbidities. They were all under 65. I would love to know what type of comorbidities they had. Still feeling uneasy although a lot less than before.

(I'm a vaxer and take flu shots every year with no hesitation).

Note that 7,000 of the 30,000 were over 65.

Out of the 30,000--->>
  • 11,000 were communities of color,
  • 7,000 were 65 and older, and
  • 5,000 had comorbities.
 
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“"We've got to be able to test widely in the community for asymptomatic spreaders of the infection," he said by phone from Washington, D.C.

"If you just test people who are symptomatic, you're going to miss a very large contingent of the spread of infection in the community."“

Knowing that the goal is to keep below 5% positive for testing goal, it is mind boggling to see this screen shot. South Dakota at 56.34%, Iowa at 51% etc....

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Knowing that the goal is to keep below 5% positive for testing goal, it is mind boggling to see this screen shot. South Dakota at 56.34%, Iowa at 51% etc....

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Good golly!!! And I thought we were bad in South Carolina today with 17%! :eek:
 
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I am guessing mask with DISTANCE and maybe amount of time around the person must be important. My nephews girlfriend was training a dispatcher coworker and both had masks but she had tested positive Covid after the person she was training came down with it. Then of course her boyfriend (my nephew) got it too. When she tested negative meaning got better, they added 2 more weeks onto her work off since he had tested positive in the shared house.
 
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You're '100% wrong': Cuomo spars with reporter over school closures

"First of all, let's try not to be obnoxious in your tone," Cuomo told the reporter during a Wednesday press conference.

The reporter later said, "parents are still confused as well..." Cuomo responded by saying, "They're not confused. You're confused. Read the law. Read the law and you won't be confused."

"The schools are open by state law," Cuomo said.

After Cuomo's Wednesday news conference, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced on Twitter the city would halt in-person learning starting on Thursday.

NY Gov. Cuomo snaps at reporters who asked if NYC schools will remain open, Twitter explodes

The governor's hostile exchange with reporters sparked heavy backlash on social media.

"For someone who presided over so many deaths, especially so many avoidable deaths in nursing homes!, Governor Cuomo should perhaps be a little less overconfident, little less mocking, and a little less aggressive in Covid (!) briefings with the media," MSNBC analyst Mehdi Hasan reacted.
 
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My sister in law thinks it is most important to distant and masks won't do much good if you don't. She just lost her brother in law to Covid but still thinks masks are not much good but to distant is more important. She wears masks more but because they are asking for them in public where distance is not possible. Her brother in law was a minister so I am thinking there wasn't much mask wearing at all times. Our church just had a meal served if you want to stay or take out. Of course people are not eating wearing masks, I can not imagine they spread too far apart either.
 
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With regard to surface transmission, as minimally or much as it may or may not exist, I wonder if there have been any known transmissions linked to dog parks. As I mentioned previously, I see so many people touching the same stainless steel poopybag trashcan handle all day long, no sanitizer or hand wipe afterwards, shaking hands, touching their faces, (also getting a little too close for comfort sometimes imo with each other, though the contact is not prolonged and it is outdoors) - So I wonder if this happy and casual atmosphere may make people more inclined to let their guards down overall.

Eta:
Furthermore, considering the high contagiousness of this virus, and the fact that surface transmission can occur, whether commonly or not, and knowing it can survive on stainless steel for sometime, if we entertain the above thought strictly on the basis of statistics alone...If 1 in 100 people in Colorado are infected, per Governor Polis, and if nobody ever wipes that handle, and if let’s say “X” people a day...you get my drift..


ETA2: I’d like to see the latest reports on surface transmission, if any exist.

The study that was most recently written up in MSM (about dogs and grocery deliveries) was, IIRC, based on data from northern Italy. Anyway, I did read it and what stuck in my mind was that older people in Italy are more likely to have dogs than working age people. Walking their dogs several times a day is a primary means of socializing for the elderly (lots of friends to talk to, other dog owners). So. Since we are pretty sure that dogs don't transmit COVID, you are very much hot on the trail of what is really going on.

It's not the dogs. It's the behavior of the people. I never thought about the poop bag dispenser (we haven't touched one since last March). Yikes.

And I do wonder about grocery delivery in Italy, as well. It's a different situation than here (most people live in apartments with shared halls and corridors - indoors). I live in a place with a front porch. The delivery people never come inside - but they do go up and down the stairs of every apartment building in France and Italy. They are usually young (20-25) and therefore would be asymptomatic (and are also known for being highly social).

I see some of my neighbors here in SoCal (elderly) speaking unmasked at their front doors to delivery people (more than half wear masks - but the ones that don't are the ones I'd worry have COVID in the first place, obviously). Of course, I have neighbors who are running businesses out of their homes and therefore have strangers in and out of their houses all the time, and they never wear masks. I suppose I should write an article about them (case study in how to get COVID, California-style).

None of that is addressed in these behavioral studies.
 
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I know someone who is having a 150 person wedding - well, they've asked 150 but no idea how many are going; we are not. A month ago they told me I was trying to ruin their wedding day. We are in much worse shape today than we were a month ago.

Can I be angry on your behalf?

My sister in law thinks it is most important to distant and masks won't do much good if you don't. She just lost her brother in law to Covid but still thinks masks are not much good but to distant is more important. She wears masks more but because they are asking for them in public where distance is not possible. Her brother in law was a minister so I am thinking there wasn't much mask wearing at all times. Our church just had a meal served if you want to stay or take out. Of course people are not eating wearing masks, I can not imagine they spread too far apart either.

Masks are not bomb-proof. Not at all. But more protection than mere distance.

Keeping 6 feet apart is not bomb-proof, even 12 feet is not bomb-proof, but better than 6.

Keep each interaction to under 10 minutes and being outdoors is another factor. If you really don't want to get COVID, do *all* of these things.

It's like thinking that it's okay to start a campfire in fire season here in California, because "those bad fires" happen to other people. It's fine to light a smoke bomb in a park because "bad fires are started by other people, not me."

My own personality ends up with me conversing with other people when I'm in a social setting. My husband is more taciturn. And while I'm conversing (I just did it - 4 days ago), I take a step toward that person (we were 10 feet apart, then the conversation became interesting and I stepped closer and on my second step closer, my husband asked what I was doing).

The person was unmasked. It just didn't register in my brain. Everyone needs to put rules in place and then (if you're me) you have to have someone else help you stick to them.
 
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FOX 11 obtains exclusive photos of Gov. Newsom at French restaurant allegedly not following COVID-19 protocols

LOS ANGELES - FOX 11 obtained exclusive photos on Tuesday night of Governor Gavin Newsom allegedly eating at the French Laundry restaurant in Yountville, California at a dinner party he attended on November 6 not following his own COVID-19 protocols he set forth for the state.

The rest of the story...published two days ago on Monday (photos were published Tuesday in above article). I’m definitely not excusing his “bad mistake” (i.e. stupid), but I think it’s important to research and post the whole story. And yes, Gavin, y0u should have gotten up and driven home IMO. But this should not turn into an excuse for Californians to do something equally stupid. That kind of thinking is juvenile. JMO

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Monday apologized for what he called “a bad mistake” in attending a birthday party that broke the very rules that he has been preaching to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

He has suffered severe political backlash since it surfaced Friday that he and his wife attended the party Nov. 6 with a dozen friends at the pricy French Laundry restaurant in wine country north of San Francisco.

Newsom said he realized as soon as he sat down at the outdoor table that the group was larger than he had expected to celebrate the 50th birthday of Jason Kinney, a political adviser that Newsom said he has known for 20 years.

“I made a bad mistake,” Newsom said. “I should have stood up and ... drove back to my house."

“The spirit of what I’m preaching all the time was contradicted,” he added. “I need to preach and practice, not just preach.”

Gov. Newsom says he made ‘bad mistake’ attending pricey party in defiance of COVID-19 guidelines
 
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Maybe people are not aware that touching items or objects and Covid can tag along on hands then one little mistake they get infected? Ugg, I just can't imagine how those of us that haven't had it and go in for needed groceries etc.. are really going to keep staying healthy. This is really wearing a person out as it is just getting worse every day.
 
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The rest of the story...published two days ago on Monday (photos were published Tuesday in above article). I’m definitely not excusing his “bad mistake” (i.e. stupid), but I think it’s important to research and post the whole story. And yes, Gavin, y0u should have gotten up and driven home IMO. But this should not turn into an excuse for Californians to do something equally stupid. That kind of thinking is juvenile. JMO

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Monday apologized for what he called “a bad mistake” in attending a birthday party that broke the very rules that he has been preaching to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

He has suffered severe political backlash since it surfaced Friday that he and his wife attended the party Nov. 6 with a dozen friends at the pricy French Laundry restaurant in wine country north of San Francisco.

Newsom said he realized as soon as he sat down at the outdoor table that the group was larger than he had expected to celebrate the 50th birthday of Jason Kinney, a political adviser that Newsom said he has known for 20 years.

“I made a bad mistake,” Newsom said. “I should have stood up and ... drove back to my house."

“The spirit of what I’m preaching all the time was contradicted,” he added. “I need to preach and practice, not just preach.”

Gov. Newsom says he made ‘bad mistake’ attending pricey party in defiance of COVID-19 guidelines

She Filmed Rogue Guv Maskless in a Bar. Then She Got Fired. — The Daily Beast

“About halfway through her Election Night shift at DJ’s Dugout, an Omaha-area sports bar, Karina Montanez looked up to see Nebraska Gov. Pete Ricketts smiling and laughing with a group of half a dozen women.

Just one person was wearing a mask—and it wasn’t the governor, who six days later would be forced to quarantine after, he said, he was exposed to the virus at a small, outdoor dinner party.”
 
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The rest of the story...published two days ago on Monday (photos were published Tuesday in above article). I’m definitely not excusing his “bad mistake” (i.e. stupid), but I think it’s important to research and post the whole story. And yes, Gavin, y0u should have gotten up and driven home IMO. But this should not turn into an excuse for Californians to do something equally stupid. That kind of thinking is juvenile. JMO

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Monday apologized for what he called “a bad mistake” in attending a birthday party that broke the very rules that he has been preaching to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

He has suffered severe political backlash since it surfaced Friday that he and his wife attended the party Nov. 6 with a dozen friends at the pricy French Laundry restaurant in wine country north of San Francisco.

Newsom said he realized as soon as he sat down at the outdoor table that the group was larger than he had expected to celebrate the 50th birthday of Jason Kinney, a political adviser that Newsom said he has known for 20 years.

“I made a bad mistake,” Newsom said. “I should have stood up and ... drove back to my house."

“The spirit of what I’m preaching all the time was contradicted,” he added. “I need to preach and practice, not just preach.”

Gov. Newsom says he made ‘bad mistake’ attending pricey party in defiance of COVID-19 guidelines

I appreciate when someone can publicly admit they were wrong. It keeps that respect level up, doesn't it?
 
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