Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #88

[dixiegirl1035]

I've always had an interest in anthropology. I'm interested to see what 10ofRods has to tell us. Thanks for pointing him/her out.

I see you joined today, Welcome to WS!

 

[dmac55]

Good grief...

This continues to happen, as it has since the beginning
People coming to AZ because of the lax approach to covid-19

NFL says 49ers could play in Arizona due to COVID-19 restrictions in California.
NFL says 49ers could play in Arizona due to COVID-19 restrictions in California

 

[MimosaMornings]

Safe enough to open Atlanta schools to film Spider Man but not for students to return to class — Fox News

“Atlanta has been in shock over why the latest Spider-Man film can be brought to life in the city while schools may have to close because of coronavirus.”

“The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported Marvel Studios offered the Atlanta school system a total of $50,000 to film within the schools. "I know that APS is currently not accepting filming applications due to the COVID pandemic, and I know that filming a new movie quickly falls to the bottom of the priority list," an e-mail by Marvel Studios location manager, Ian Easterbrook, read.”

 

[SouthAussie]

Thank goodness someone is doing it. Vice President Elect Kamala Harris is.


A Chicago nurse will never forget this year's Thanksgiving after she received a call from Vice President-elect Kamala Harris, who thanked her for her hard work amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
Harris, 56, shared a clip on Instagram playing her side of the call, in which she tells Hardin that she's been "reading about [her] and just all that [she does] in service of so many people."

"I know it's personal for you, and I know that it requires mental and emotional and physical and spiritual energy and power that you give to it, so thank you," Harris told Hardin in the clip.

An NNU representative told CNN that Hardin's mother and uncle have both contracted COVID-19, with her uncle currently in the hospital.
In May, Hardin testified to the House Oversight Committee on behalf of the NNU and the University of Chicago Medical Center about the lack of protection for medical workers.

Kamala Harris Calls Chicago Nurse on Thanksgiving to Thank Her for Working on COVID-19 Frontlines

 

[nightowl1975]

The two things (testing and distributing) are very different.

The time it takes to test is pretty much a scientific matter and governed by the FDA.

Distribution is a state and local matter, in coordination with a now gutted and non-functioning federal government that must be restructured.

The lack of testing supplies and people to conduct testing and people to run lab samples and lab space and on and on certainly had nothing to do with the FDA. Once the FDA approved emergency use tests, the Defense Production Act IMO should’ve been used to the fullest extent possible to get things done. From what I read here, there are places that STILL struggle with test kits. We don’t have that issue here in a major metro area of Texas, but other places do according to some of the posters here. There’s no reason for that at this point IMO. And it absolutely has nothing to do with the FDA. I do hope things will run more smoothly and expeditiously than it did with testing, but the excuses seem to already be flowing as to why it’s going to take many months.

Do you have a citation for that nurse information? Because all the health professionals I know, including student nurses, are eager to get vaccinated. I haven't read a juried article in which nurses say they aren't willing to be vaccinated. There are journals in which nurses publish actual studies.

Covid-19 vaccines may hurt. CDC's ACIP says people need to know this upfront - CNN


“Nurses were also a concern. One survey showed that while nurses agreed vaccines were likely to be safe and effective, only 34% would voluntarily get vaccinated, Oliver said.”

The unwillingness of the majority of nurses I know of across a dozen states is in line with the above statistics. Most are willing to get vaccinated eventually, but right now? Not a chance. These are men and women I’ve known and worked with for a decade or more in most cases.

At any rate, every teacher I know is more than willing to line up - and some have been in trials. AFAIK, there's no data on nurses in the US, but healthcare workers (including nurses) in other nations are very much pro-vaccine.

Anecdotally, the teachers I know, which are far fewer in quantity than the number of nurses and doctors and allied health professionals I know, are mostly more than eager to be vaccinated. The medical professionals I know are almost all very pro-vaccine. But they are for the most part extremely reluctant, to completely unwilling, to get vaccinated for covid right away. I also anecdotally estimate approximately 50% of nurses I know don’t vaccinate for the flu. That number jumps even higher for rehab professionals that I know.

The association between vaccination confidence, vaccination behavior, and willingness to recommend vaccines among Finnish healthcare workers
Interesting. I would think the thought process and beliefs are different among US medical professionals for a variety of reasons. It’s just what I’ve seen, so the survey results weren’t at all surprising to me.

I think you need some facts to support your conclusion.

See link above. But honestly, at the end of the day, I know hundreds of nurses personally, and the above survey numbers are entirely in line with what I hear being discussed at work when the subject comes up. Not sure what other “facts” I would need to base my concision on... it’s not like I pulled it out of my behind after talking to a couple of nurses.

 

[nightowl1975]

It is a huge endeavor to vaccinate this many people.

I agree. I also thought it was/is a huge endeavor to conduct millions and millions of covid tests. It’s just truly fascinating to me how drastically different the overall attitude was/is about testing vs vaccinating in terms of timeline/speediness. If this was the Trump administration dealing with vaccine distribution, no matter what, it wouldn’t be fast enough. That said, I also have no doubt things will go more smoothly under a Biden administration. For that, I’m incredibly thankful. Just making an observation, for whatever it’s worth, which is about as much as anyone else’s random observations in life.

 

[margarita25]

 

[SouthAussie]

But honestly, at the end of the day, I know hundreds of nurses personally, and the above survey numbers are entirely in line with what I hear being discussed at work when the subject comes up. Not sure what other “facts” I would need to base my concision on... it’s not like I pulled it out of my behind after talking to a couple of nurses.

It’s just truly fascinating to me how drastically different the overall attitude was/is about testing vs vaccinating in terms of timeline/speediness. If this was the Trump administration dealing with vaccine distribution, no matter what, it wouldn’t be fast enough. That said, I also have no doubt things will go more smoothly under a Biden administration. For that, I’m incredibly thankful. Just making an observation, for whatever it’s worth, which is about as much as anyone else’s random observations in life.

As with everything else, we will just have to wait and see, and hope that the majority of US people want the US to get out of its covid mess, and support the new administration's efforts to do so.

 

[SouthAussie]

Coronavirus infections in England have fallen by nearly a third since the country entered its second lockdown, swab tests on 105,000 volunteers have shown.

The R number, which shows the level of transmission, is now 0.88. Any figure above 1 means the virus is growing exponentially.

Covid infections in England down by nearly a third since second lockdown

 

[SouthAussie]

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told ABC’s “This Week” that the level of infection in the US would not “all of a sudden turn around.”

“So clearly in the next few weeks, we’re going to have the same sort of thing. And perhaps even two or three weeks down the line ... we may see a surge upon a surge,” he said.

Aside from the Thanksgiving holiday itself, anywhere from 800,000 to more than 1 million travellers made their way through US airport checkpoints on any day during the past week, according to Transportation Security Administration statistics.

Dr Fauci also said the arrival of vaccines offers a “light at the end of the tunnel”

This coming week, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices will meet with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to discuss a rollout of the vaccine, he said.

Health care workers will likely be among the first to get the vaccine, with the first vaccinations happening before the end of December, followed by many more in January, February and March, he said.

“So if we can hang together as a country and do these kinds of things to blunt these surges until we get a substantial proportion of the population vaccinated, we can get through this,” Fauci said.

Coronavirus live news: Fauci warns of 'surge upon surge' in US cases after Thanksgiving

 

[SouthAussie]

dbm

 

[gngr~snap]

Good to see you @gngr~snap.

3 Things:

1. ) I hope you received a good update on Nov. 11, (iirc the date correctly), re: your little grand babies.

2. ) Your above post is very sobering, and something I’m sure none of us thought of re: MIS-C (but is now clearly evident in hindsight with all the information and reference about organ involvement).

3. ) I wish I could ask you for a link and contest this post, but that’s out of the question, considering you are a Verified Pediatric Nurse.

EDIT: I found one link!
New Yorkers Prepare For A COVID-19 Induced Shortage Of U.S. Organ Donors
At this time IMO, people are much less mobile, many bars are closed, people just are not out and about like they usually are. IMO the number of accidents where organs could be harvested have decreased.
The demand (could) be staggering for years to come.
There isn't a link (yet).
Common sense says this (could) become quite an issue, as many (ok like 15) family members of people I know have had to have amputations, have ZERO kidney function and now require dialysis and are currently in rehab facilities.
30-50 yrs old.
Their children are being raised by family members. Sites asking for up to 20k to help
with rent so the family member can keep the children in the home they are familiar with, as they don't have space for 2 or 3 kids in their own home.
Many have had to leave a spouse and or their own children behind.
Some may be as little as 20 miles away.
The outlook for these single parents looks grim to me, as I can't fathom how they will recover enough to resume parenting these children on their own.
There were barely enough organ donations prior to COVID to save everyone. It will be more scarce now.
It's not like borrowing a shirt. Blood types have to match and the organs have to not be rejected. Many of these patients post COVID really aren't healthy enough to qualify for organ transplant.
MOO!!!
PS...
off topic.
I'm not sure about the twins. She has had many ultrasounds, some tests that are IMO earlier than the norm.
Her panorama (Naterna) test came back and I was told the "gender".
I'm not sure if it's too painful to talk about in the event it's a vanishing twin, or if she is being sneaky to surprise us at Christmas.
She has planned a rather sudden trip to a cabin in the mountains and she is leaving tomorrow. She is almost 13 weeks.
She has another sonogram the 10th.
I am still seeing 2! As well as the T sign. Anyone with identical twins knows that means they are monochorionic diamniotic.
MCDA if that's the case.
They still look to be the same size... IMO
I'm not an ultrasound tech so this is just my eyes and gut here. She sure isn't acting like she lost a twin, so fingers crossed that she has a surprise in store soon!
Thanks for asking. I'm losing my mind over this.
She did have a scan where the located her placenta and it's low lying, but she said the umbilical cord looks good.
This all seems very odd to be evaluating when she was 9 weeks, but maybe that's normal now?
I'm so out of the loop!
I know one thing! I have MAJOR CABIN FEVER!!
MOO
BACK ON TOPIC!

 

[margarita25]

 

[SouthAussie]

At least people are wearing masks now.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Yes!

Dr. Campbell is so disappointed that MSM doesn't cover vitamin D (probably because not many studies iykwim).. and at 22:33 in this video from yesterday states that ALL care home in England will be given FREE vitamin D from January to April by the PHE.

And remember the swiss cheese model we had months ago, he has shown a new one!

 

[dmac55]

Birx says Americans who gathered for Thanksgiving should assume they have COVID and get tested.
Birx says Americans who gathered for Thanksgiving should assume they're infected and get tested

 

[Deleted member 158085]

I agree. I also thought it was/is a huge endeavor to conduct millions and millions of covid tests. It’s just truly fascinating to me how drastically different the overall attitude was/is about testing vs vaccinating in terms of timeline/speediness. If this was the Trump administration dealing with vaccine distribution, no matter what, it wouldn’t be fast enough. That said, I also have no doubt things will go more smoothly under a Biden administration. For that, I’m incredibly thankful. Just making an observation, for whatever it’s worth, which is about as much as anyone else’s random observations in life.

I don't see any difference in the discussion of the roll-out of vaccines now than before the election. The discussion has always been the same - that it's a huge undertaking and many of us don't expect full availability until next year at this time. We've based our discussion off of what Fauci and others have said, not what any administration has said. I don’t recall any negativity at any point over the various time frames we've been given.

 

[ilovewings]

Birx says Americans who gathered for Thanksgiving should assume they have COVID and get tested.
Birx says Americans who gathered for Thanksgiving should assume they're infected and get tested

3 million clueless selfish people traveled despite warnings- what are the chances these people are going to get tested? maybe a few will, but most won't. It is obvious they didn't take the warnings seriously----

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Live stream....Hasn't started yet. Katie Couric interview with President of Moderna to start in one minute

ETA: Has started

 

[mickey2942]

3 million clueless selfish people traveled despite warnings- what are the chances these people are going to get tested? maybe a few will, but most won't. It is obvious they didn't take the warnings seriously----

What if a majority of those people already had Covid? They are not going to catch it again? And spread it? My kids have all had Covid now, they are over it. Is there a reason why people who have had Covid should stay home?