Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #88

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  • #741
Iowa numbers and recent news : As of 10:00-11:00 a.m., we had 1,906 new "confirmed" cases for a total of 230,902 of which 137,433 had recovered (+5,223). 24 more had passed away for a total of 2,427. According to KWWL, the 24 hr. posivity rate is 41.5% and there are 91,042 active positive cases. 129 were hospitalized in the last 24 hrs. for a total of 1,172 (+10).
Dec. 1: Over 5,000 new COVID-19 recoveries in Iowa
access Daily case totals updated at 11:00 a.m.
Amended lawsuit claims Tyson managers lied to interpreters about COVID-19 cases at Waterloo plant
Second Iowa prison worker with COVID-19 dies
First COVID-19 reinfection reported in Dubuque County
Reynolds cautiously optimistic as virus positivity rates decline
Iowa hears 4 more bar complaints over COVID-19 protocols
 
  • #742
Iowa numbers and recent news : As of 10:00-11:00 a.m., we had 1,906 new "confirmed" cases for a total of 230,902 of which 137,433 had recovered (+5,223). 24 more had passed away for a total of 2,427. According to KWWL, the 24 hr. posivity rate is 41.5% and there are 91,042 active positive cases. 129 were hospitalized in the last 24 hrs. for a total of 1,172 (+10).
Dec. 1: Over 5,000 new COVID-19 recoveries in Iowa
access Daily case totals updated at 11:00 a.m.
Amended lawsuit claims Tyson managers lied to interpreters about COVID-19 cases at Waterloo plant
Second Iowa prison worker with COVID-19 dies
First COVID-19 reinfection reported in Dubuque County
Reynolds cautiously optimistic as virus positivity rates decline
Iowa hears 4 more bar complaints over COVID-19 protocols
 
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Soccer showcase will bring thousands to the Triangle this week. What about COVID-19? — News & Observer

“The Girls College Showcase will be played this week in the Triangle, bringing together 6,000 youth soccer players and 300 college coaches.

While it’s a needed economic boon for the area, it raises a question: play during a pandemic? Coronavirus cases are spiking nationwide and there are concerns about further COVID-19 spread after Thanksgiving family gatherings.”

“athletes are not being tested for COVID-19 before coming to the event. Temperature checks will not be made before each day’s competition, although parents have been asked to monitor their child’s temperature. Those who participate in the event sign and submit a “Release of Liability and Assumption of Risk” agreement concerning COVID-19.”

Do any other countries act in this manner, like there is no pandemic?
 
  • #744
We found out today that we (my family) are under quarantine. Fourteen days. I know this is a small price to pay in order to be OK, but no one here (where we live) seems to take this seriously.

We can go to the grocery store, pharmacy, and other "essential" businesses if we where a mask, and don't have a fever.

Guess where I will be? WS, yep....LOL
 
  • #745
Do any other countries act in this manner, like there is no pandemic?
Especially since this isn't just a large number of individuals independently ignoring advice, but is actually being organized by some type of official, with official sanction. And the media outlets just mildly asks 'is that wise?', but seems satisfied with the response.

No mention about how the 6,300 people will travel to the region, where they will stay and where they will eat. Perhaps these college kids will all drive their own cars, stay in their own hotel rooms, and just eat take out while watching TV. They won't party hard and meet tons of brand new friends and then take the virus back home.
 
  • #746
Massachusetts should expect COVID-19 vaccines in December, Gov. Charlie Baker says
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COVID-19 vaccines could begin arriving in Massachusetts this month, Gov. Charlie Baker said Tuesday, but it will be months before members of the general public have access to immunizations, based on plans the federal government and Massachusetts are finalizing this week to prioritize limited early supplies.

The Trump administration told governors on Monday to expect the first shipments of Pfizer vaccine to begin arriving by mid-December, assuming it receives the necessary emergency use authorization from the Food and Drug Administration, Baker said.

The vaccine developed by Cambridge-based Moderna would be available “shortly after that,” added Baker, who also said he did not think his administration would consider mandating vaccinations.

The head of the FDA Stephen Hahn was called to the White House Tuesday morning for a meeting on the Pfizer approval process, and the agency has a hearing scheduled Dec. 17 to discuss the Moderna application.

The limited supply of early doses, however, will likely be used first for frontline health care workers, adults over 65 or with underlying health conditions and other essential workers. The state is preparing to submit its final plan for vaccine acceptance and distribution to the Centers for Disease Control on Friday.

“The focus is going to be on the people we are all the most worried about, right, either because of what they do for work or because of their age or because of their physical condition,” Baker said.

The governor said it probably won’t be until the spring that the general population begins to have access to a vaccine, at which point others being developed by AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson could also be available.

“It would probably be Q2 before just Joe Q or Jane Q Citizen would have access to a vaccine,” Baker said.

While the impending availability of a vaccine means there’s “light at the end of the tunnel,” Baker also cautioned against thinking that FDA approval will mean that life can return to normal for the Christmas season.

The Pfizer and the Moderna vaccines require two doses, which must be administered three to four weeks apart.

“The thing to remember here is, even as the feds get into the business of following through on the distribution program that’s attached to this, it’s going to take awhile before people would literally start finishing the vaccine process itself and start to generate antibodies,” Baker said.

The vaccines are designed for adults over the age of 18, Baker noted, and he does not envision a scenario where the state would mandate COVID-19 vaccination as it has for public school students with the flu vaccine.

“We can’t and I don’t think we would mandate in this particular case,” Baker said.

Johnson & Johnson is testing one vaccine candidate that requires only a single dose and can be stored at refrigerator temperature, instead of the extreme negative 94 degrees Fahrenheit required of the Pfizer vaccine.

While Baker did not discuss vaccine storage, Worcester Medical Director Dr. Michael Hirsh said Monday that the state had purchased a “large number of sub-zero, really sub-zero, freezers.”

“I know CVS and Walgreens have purchased them as well. There are going to be specialized, portable ... it’s like an Igloo but it would be capable of keeping something cool like that for a long time,” Hirsh said on a post-Thanksgiving episode of Talk of the Commonwealth.
 
  • #747
We found out today that we (my family) are under quarantine. Fourteen days. I know this is a small price to pay in order to be OK, but no one here (where we live) seems to take this seriously.

We can go to the grocery store, pharmacy, and other "essential" businesses if we where a mask, and don't have a fever.

Guess where I will be? WS, yep....LOL

Hi,

Hopefully you and your family won’t develop the virus after exposure. :)

Re: “We can go to the grocery store, pharmacy, and other "essential" businesses if we where a mask, and don't have a fever”, may I ask which entity said this is okay? This isn’t “quarantining”.
 
  • #748
Especially since this isn't just a large number of individuals independently ignoring advice, but is actually being organized by some type of official, with official sanction. And the media outlets just mildly asks 'is that wise?', but seems satisfied with the response.

No mention about how the 6,300 people will travel to the region, where they will stay and where they will eat. Perhaps these college kids will all drive their own cars, stay in their own hotel rooms, and just eat take out while watching TV. They won't party hard and meet tons of brand new friends and then take the virus back home.

Yep I am sure they will isolate themselves in the hotel room NOT---
 
  • #749
For some reason, to add, I'm more in the camp of the AstraZeneca right now.. as tried and true as to vaccine types vs. new mRNA by Moderna and Pfizer. It could be the best... but I'm old school. And since I won't get anyway until ~May/June... I'll have time to reinforce as longer trial data to be released by then. IIRC, that's the next time Moderna and PFizer have to release info.

And by the time it gets to me I do hope ALL the info is released as it will take ~6 months for my priority.

Yep, I absolutely know the new the the world and successful Moderna and Pfizer... which will probably be the #1 for health care workers due to the timeline...

Just sayin'.....

as the old adage goes, "trust but verify"

ETA: I do look forward to the J&J vaccine (another Warp Speed vac)... who IIRC ONLY had one dose for their trials.. as all these now seen are seen to have such a bump after the second dose.

In Dr. Osterholm’s latest podcast, he gives a rather in-depth explanation and comparison of the vaccines. Good broadcast, as usual:

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*this was recorded before Thanksgiving, but posted yesterday. He actually said two things I recently mentioned, about how it will be sad and difficult for those who infect their family members due to careless Thanksgiving travel, and also that he doesn’t trust completely airplane travel, despite their filtration studies/reports to date (jmo my interpretation of his comments), and cited a report involving New Zealand (al though the that was a long flight). He also mentioned the whole aspect of airport travel as being iffy, not just the plane interior.

His focus is now trying to get people not to travel during Christmas and New Year, as the Thanksgiving ship has already sailed. He said he wished CDC would’ve put out their warning earlier.

Much in the above podcast, too much to summarize.
 
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Covid news from NC
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article247524695.html

NC sees record COVID-19 hospitalizations for 4th day, with 2,000+ patients for 1st time
BY JOSH SHAFFER
DECEMBER 01, 2020 12:38 PM

North Carolina hit a record-high number of hospitalized COVID-19 patients for the fourth day in a row Tuesday as positive tests continue to surge.

The state Department of Health and Human Resources reported 2,033 people in hospitals statewide, the first time that number has crossed 2,000 since the pandemic began in March.

Also on Tuesday, DHHS said the rate of positive COVID-19 tests is now at 10.2% — more than twice the level state health officials are seeking.

[snip]

Deaths rose to 5,284 statewide, up 23 from Monday.

More at link.
 
  • #751
Soccer showcase will bring thousands to the Triangle this week. What about COVID-19? — News & Observer

“The Girls College Showcase will be played this week in the Triangle, bringing together 6,000 youth soccer players and 300 college coaches.

While it’s a needed economic boon for the area, it raises a question: play during a pandemic? Coronavirus cases are spiking nationwide and there are concerns about further COVID-19 spread after Thanksgiving family gatherings.”

“athletes are not being tested for COVID-19 before coming to the event. Temperature checks will not be made before each day’s competition, although parents have been asked to monitor their child’s temperature. Those who participate in the event sign and submit a “Release of Liability and Assumption of Risk” agreement concerning COVID-19.”

Pretty incredible, isn't it? Here's a little comparison .....

Australia is going to host the Australian Open in early February. An international tennis event.
  • Arrival in Australia between January 15-17.
  • Be subject to "bubble" quarantine, to last until January 31 for all, regardless of arrival date.
  • No one can spend more than five hours outside their hotel room and this time would be restricted to training on court, gym work or receiving treatment.
  • At Melbourne Park, a player can only be escorted by one person (but not necessarily the same person each day).
  • Training pairs to be formed, with two players (and their two accompanying staff) to train only with each other throughout the two weeks of quarantine. If any of those four then test positive for COVID-19, they will be quarantined in their rooms for 14 days following the positive test.
  • Coronavirus test would be scheduled for the first, third, seventh, 10th and 14th days of their stays.
 
  • #752
I have a friend who is scheduled for upcoming surgery.

He had to take a covid test and quarantine for 14 days before they will do the surgery.
 
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  • #753
We found out today that we (my family) are under quarantine. Fourteen days. I know this is a small price to pay in order to be OK, but no one here (where we live) seems to take this seriously.

We can go to the grocery store, pharmacy, and other "essential" businesses if we where a mask, and don't have a fever.

Guess where I will be? WS, yep....LOL

I think that it is good that you are not planning to go out. :)

When my niece and her family had to quarantine a couple of weeks ago, for 14 days, they were allowed to go nowhere (except out in their own gardens). And no-one could come and see them.
They had to test at the start of the quarantine (they were negative).
And they had to test negative at the end, before they could come out of quarantine.

The Red Cross called them during quarantine to make sure they were okay, and see if they needed anything.
But they ordered groceries online and had them delivered.
 
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  • #754
Our hero doctor ... who identified our first covid case before it could blow out to a huge spreading outbreak (we are now four days with no further new cases - active cases now down to 10).


The 81-year-old woman was attending a consultation with Dr Dharminy Thurairatnam for separate health concerns, when the doctor noticed she had a cough.
Dr Thurairatnam said she tested the elderly woman on 13 November as a mere precaution after months of the state being COVID-free.
"I wasn't expecting her to come back COVID-positive because we had no community transmission at the time," Dr Thurairatnam said.
"I thought it may have been a lab error, but we re-tested her, and sure enough, she was positive."

SA Health Minister Stephen Wade used Dr Thurairatnam's actions as a reminder to thank all health workers in the state.
"Today is a day to celebrate, to celebrate 45,000 health personnel in SA," Mr Wade said.

Doctor who identified first SA case 'wasn't expecting' COVID-positive result

(Dr Thurairatnam has just come out of quarantine because, of course, she had to quarantine after being exposed to her covid positive patient)
 
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  • #755
Also, in Dr. O’s podcast posted above, he mentioned a very important article, noting to find that at some point. It was about the ethical considerations for determining vaccine prioritization, iirc. He had a lot to say about this literature going forward.

I saw/read/heard somewhere, can’t remember which of ten million articles, podcasts or videos it was in, so jmo, moo, will look for link.

Gallup poll said 50/50 on vaccine survey, whether people will take it or not, so it seems that is a good baseline, as I asked about. However, omg I’m looking at the comments under these various vaccine news videos I’m posting and...let’s just say refusing to wear a mask seems to be only the beginning...There are all kinds of crazy comments. I’m not even sure 50 percent of people will take it after reading those...

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1 day ago (as we know vaccine prioritization was announced today)
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  • #756
Wow, from the second video in my above post:

* Elderly, married couple dies at the same time (4:23 pm).

*And wow just wow very important comment at 5:00 - just as I suspected and have stated several times about my opinion that covid was likely here in December, evidence of antibodies in blood donations from December! :eek: / going in for recon to find evidence to back up his statement / will follow up with link in this post (sorry if already posted).



Eta:
A new study found coronavirus may have been in the US in December. That doesn't mean you'll ever know if you had it then - CNN

“A new study published Monday suggests the novel coronavirus was infecting people across the US as early as December -- a month before the first person known to have been infected with coronavirus arrived in the US from China on January 15.

Researchers screened blood donations made in December and early January and found
evidence of antibodies to the novel coronavirus in at least 84 samples from nine states -- something that would suggest those people had been infected with coronavirus.
"These findings suggest that SARS-CoV-2 may have been introduced into the United States prior to January 19, 2020," the researchers at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Red Cross wrote in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases.



Serologic testing of U.S. blood donations to identify SARS-CoV-2-reactive antibodies: December 2019-January 2020
Published: 30 November 2020


Virus May Have Arrived in U.S. in December, but Didn’t Spread Until Later | NYT | December 1, 2020
 
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When I was reading the transcript that dixie provided to me, of the interview with Katie Coric and Moderna, Moderna was saying that they are really happy that several vaccines will be on the market as they each only have the capacity to produce about a billion vaccine doses per year. With Pfizer and Moderna vaccines requiring two doses per person.

The world currently has 7.8 billion people.
 
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15m ago10:15

Lim says the JCVI is recommending that vaccination should go first to those most at risk, and to health professionals.

Age is by far the single biggest risk factor, he says.

But he says attention should also be paid to mitigating health inequalities.

This slide sets out the overall priorities.

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13m ago10:18

Updated priority list for getting Covid vaccination published
Lim then presents a slide showing which groups will get priority.

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UK coronavirus live: health experts hold briefing on vaccine ahead of roll out
 
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15m ago10:15

Lim says the JCVI is recommending that vaccination should go first to those most at risk, and to health professionals.

Age is by far the single biggest risk factor, he says.

But he says attention should also be paid to mitigating health inequalities.

This slide sets out the overall priorities.

View attachment 274005

13m ago10:18

Updated priority list for getting Covid vaccination published
Lim then presents a slide showing which groups will get priority.

View attachment 274006

UK coronavirus live: health experts hold briefing on vaccine ahead of roll out

Thanks for posting, interesting read. I noticed a link to the UK vaccination program within your link.

Essentially, it looks like the plan is to vaccinate everyone who is deemed vulnerable, then ease restrictions and see how things go. No immediate priority on healthy people 49 years old and younger. Which makes sense.


Once we have evidence of the impact of the programme on morbidity and mortality amongst vulnerable persons, the initial phase of the vaccination programme could allow the subsequent relaxation of nonpharmaceutical interventions in some sectors of the population. Government advice on non-pharmaceutical interventions should continue to be followed.

Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation: advice on priority groups for COVID-19 vaccination
 
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