Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #88

[SouthAussie]

As a trained epidemiologist with postgraduate qualifications in anthropology, I never thought I’d be a “participant observer” of a pandemic on two continents. But there I was, boomeranging in just five weeks from Australia to New York and back again. From a commitment to science, communitas and mateship here, to defiant disregard for public health, contempt for science and mystical faith in a super-spreader leader in the United States.

I was travelling to visit my mother. She has lived in New York all her life and had been locked down for nearly eight months. Nothing very unusual there. But my mother is 106 ½ years old. She lived through the Great Influenza of 1918 that took the life of her baby sister. She was married and widowed three times. As she often says, “I’m a survivor.” But for how long?

I should have realised when I transferred to a domestic flight in Los Angeles that I had just walked through the looking glass ........

Arriving in the US from Australia during Covid was like walking through the looking glass | Abby Bloom

 

[margarita25]

It happened recently near where I live - Phoenix area
And they posted pictures...

"There has been no word yet on whether the lawmakers in these images plan to go into quarantine or whether they have been tested for COVID-19."

Trump lawyer tests positive for COVID-19 days after maskless meeting with Arizona lawmakers.
Trump lawyer tests positive for COVID-19 days after maskless meeting with Arizona lawmakers

The photo looks like a pre-pandemic photo - not a single mask or element of distancing in sight:

 

[10ofRods]

Thankfully, there is that light at the end of the tunnel with the vaccines, but I was just thinking: Could you guys imagine if this was not yet on the horizon? As we know, these scientific achievements are unprecedented, to have been able to develop effective vaccines in this short of a time period, usually it takes years...

Yes, it does, but recent developments over in the DNA/RNA research area have made it so much "easier." It's really crazy what science can do, now that we know how to compile a complete genome for...a human or a dog or...a coronavirus.

I hope people realize that science has the answer to this problem.

Meanwhile, I'm alarmed and, really, not happy that people are doing risky things.

It's really best if we all stay home, if we can. Hospital/ICU beds are dropping in supply in more than 30 states. If you can't stay home, at least don't speed your car and get into an accident (high accident rates in California right now).

Try not to fall off a cliff or get caught and nearly drown in an ocean current because, frankly, you may not even get an ambulance to come and fix you.

 

[margarita25]

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eta: See 9:52 of rally / not a single mask

 

[SouthAussie]

Yes, it does, but recent developments over in the DNA/RNA research area have made it so much "easier." It's really crazy what science can do, now that we know how to compile a complete genome for...a human or a dog or...a coronavirus.

I hope people realize that science has the answer to this problem.

Meanwhile, I'm alarmed and, really, not happy that people are doing risky things.

It's really best if we all stay home, if we can. Hospital/ICU beds are dropping in supply in more than 30 states. If you can't stay home, at least don't speed your car and get into an accident (high accident rates in California right now).

Try not to fall off a cliff or get caught and nearly drown in an ocean current because, frankly, you may not even get an ambulance to come and fix you.

A US person was saying to a friend of mine just 5 days ago that they had been studying hospitalisation rates between this year and last year, and there really wasn't much difference. I couldn't imagine where this person was getting their information from. I have never heard of full ICUs and field hospitals being set up before, nor nurses and doctors crying for help.

So much misinformation out there.

 

[realanastasia]

Anti-Vaccine Doctor Has Been Invited to Testify Before Senate Committee

 

[10ofRods]

As a trained epidemiologist with postgraduate qualifications in anthropology, I never thought I’d be a “participant observer” of a pandemic on two continents. But there I was, boomeranging in just five weeks from Australia to New York and back again. From a commitment to science, communitas and mateship here, to defiant disregard for public health, contempt for science and mystical faith in a super-spreader leader in the United States.

I was travelling to visit my mother. She has lived in New York all her life and had been locked down for nearly eight months. Nothing very unusual there. But my mother is 106 ½ years old. She lived through the Great Influenza of 1918 that took the life of her baby sister. She was married and widowed three times. As she often says, “I’m a survivor.” But for how long?

I should have realised when I transferred to a domestic flight in Los Angeles that I had just walked through the looking glass ........

Arriving in the US from Australia during Covid was like walking through the looking glass | Abby Bloom

Thank you for that! I'm watching and listening to so many anthropology colleagues who are scrambling to get out of the US...if they can. Some have dual citizenship (Canada, Australia, EU) and frankly, I was jealous at first. However, I'm not trying to raise kids in the US (mine are grown) and I don't have to worry about 30 more years of worklife.

My colleagues are struggling to move in the other direction (TO Australia) and are advising their friends/relatives outside the US not to come. But seeing one's mom for the last time - that's just a terrible conundrum to have to face. I never thought I'd be thinking "glad that mom and dad are no longer here, as they would not be able to survive this and would be SO upset to be hospitalized without visitors..."

And I'm referring to both physical and psychological survival. Most of us should be thinking about our own life expectancy (it's likely not as long as it would have been without COVID - but that's okay, Life doesn't guarantee an extra six months, much less an extra 10 years).

Life expectancy for women in the US was about 79 years before COVID (79.54 I believe is the consensus number right now).

That means that about half of us would have lived to be older than 79 - we shall see. Everything is upturned right now, and it affects our choices. All of this (immigrating, growing older, assessing our health liabilities) is really difficult right now.

 

[10ofRods]

A US person was saying to a friend of mine just 5 days ago that they had been studying hospitalisation rates between this year and last year, and there really wasn't much difference. I couldn't imagine where this person was getting their information from. I have never heard of full ICUs and field hospitals being set up before, nor nurses and doctors crying for help.

So much misinformation out there.

Welcome to the American world. I do not even know what to say or how to deal with it. We have excess deaths galore (people deny it). We have hospitals filled to historic capacity (people deny it). We have improved medical care, so fewer per capita deaths - and that's all that people want to point out.

Of people who get COVID, slightly more than 3 out of 100 will die. That's 1.5 out of 50. I definitely know 100 people who are beloved by me (who are also over 50 years old). I do not want them to die earlier than they would have.

And the consequences of having COVID, for all ages, are so grim.

 

[gngr~snap]

Anti-Vaccine Doctor Has Been Invited to Testify Before Senate Committee

Just as the article states. She should not be given a platform to spread misinformation!

MOO

 

[Lilibet]

As a trained epidemiologist with postgraduate qualifications in anthropology, I never thought I’d be a “participant observer” of a pandemic on two continents. But there I was, boomeranging in just five weeks from Australia to New York and back again. From a commitment to science, communitas and mateship here, to defiant disregard for public health, contempt for science and mystical faith in a super-spreader leader in the United States.

I was travelling to visit my mother. She has lived in New York all her life and had been locked down for nearly eight months. Nothing very unusual there. But my mother is 106 ½ years old. She lived through the Great Influenza of 1918 that took the life of her baby sister. She was married and widowed three times. As she often says, “I’m a survivor.” But for how long?

I should have realised when I transferred to a domestic flight in Los Angeles that I had just walked through the looking glass ........

Arriving in the US from Australia during Covid was like walking through the looking glass | Abby Bloom

This article almost made me cry, not just for the author’s 106+ year old mother, going through the pandemic mostly alone in NYC, but for the difference the author experienced going through U.S. airports vs Australian. Actually, that part made me sick and angry!

 

[margarita25]

A US person was saying to a friend of mine just 5 days ago that they had been studying hospitalisation rates between this year and last year, and there really wasn't much difference. I couldn't imagine where this person was getting their information from. I have never heard of full ICUs and field hospitals being set up before, nor nurses and doctors crying for help.

So much misinformation out there.

It’s incredible, the comments on YT...under some of the hospital videos, there are comments saying this is all an exaggeration/farce, and they’re not really overloaded...just insane. Makes no sense. So sad for these medical professionals.

 

[margarita25]

First Gentleman Taken to Hospital for COVID-19 Symptoms Monitoring | Colorado Governor Jared Polis

Oh, oh...

SUNDAY, DECEMBER 6, 2020

“DENVER - Over the last 24 hours, First Gentleman Marlon Reis started to experience a slightly worsening cough and shortness of breath on day eight after being diagnosed with COVID.

As a precaution, the First Gentleman has been transported to the hospital for review and treatment. Governor Polis is not experiencing any additional symptoms at this time.

The Governor drove the First Gentleman in his personal vehicle to the hospital. We will continue to update the general public as new information is available.“

 

[Lilibet]

Perhaps a lot of states show details of the status of Covid-19 on a website, but I think Oregon makes it so easy to look at different aspects of what is going on.

Tableau Public

 

[GRT]

Just as the article states. She should not be given a platform to spread misinformation!

MOO

Science isn't about selectively picking and choosing the data that suits a predetermined hypothesis, but rather about gathering all the data and then forming a conclusion. I don't know why she was invited, but she appears to support the right of individuals to choose whether or not they want to take a vaccine rather than making one mandatory. Most Americans will also support that. She may have no intention of pushing debunked theories. She's earned her degree -- let her speak and then counter her if what she says is known to be false. I think our legislators are smart enough to do that.

 

[Cool Cats]

• British GPs were given ten days' notice to prepare to receive doses in the week starting December 14.

Britain begins its vaccine programme this week and others are likely to follow soon, so governments are seeking to reassure people of vaccines’ safety and efficacy in order to get a critical mass to take them.

• Ready to knock-back Covid: Specialised-freezers sit stocked with Pfizer vaccine | Daily Mail Online

• Coronavirus: First images of freezers containing Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine for UK emerge

Photographs shows rows of freezers which will keep the vaccines at temperatures as low as -70C ahead of their roll out to care homes and GP surgeries within a fortnight.

Preparation for the roll out of the vaccine to thousands of people are well underway, with politicians speculating the UK population could be ready to start returning to normal by April

When ready for injection, vials are warmed to room temperature over a two-hour period, diluted and drawn into needles, and then teams have six hours in which to vaccinate patients

Rows of vaccine have been stored in the freezers in a secure location ahead of their expected rollout within the next ten days. The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) still has to rubber-stamp the protocol for removing the fragile vaccine from its deep-freeze, but officials expect that to be resolved within days.

GPs were last night told to prepare to receive doses in the week starting December 14, with care homes expected to receive the vaccine in the same week. Pictured, a lorry leaves Pfizer Manufacturing in Puurs, Belgium as the UK authorises the vaccine for emergency use.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Vaccines: Updated with J&J information

Roll outs
Moderna/NIH 20 million doses ready by end of 2020; 500 million to one billion doses in 2021. Can be manufactured in US, Switzerland and Spain. Advanced orders are US order was for 100 million doses with options on 400 million more (US gave nearly $1 billion in support) ; EU 80 million doses then 80 million more; Japan 50 million doses; Canada 20 million; Switzerland 4.5 million; UK 5-7 million doses for spring. They are in talks with WHO, COVAX re distribution and a tiered pricing proposal.
Cost expected $32-37/dose Tested on 18 Years old and up

Pfizer 50 million doses by end of 2020. Advanced orders are US 100-500 million; EU 200 million; UK 40 million doses
Cost expected $19.50/dose Tested on 12 years old and up

AstraZeneca/Oxford
EU 400 million doses; UK 100 million doses; alliance for poorer countries 300 million doses. (Need info on US...)
Cost expected $5/dose Tested on 5-12 years old and 18 and up

Sanofi and GlaxoSmithKline
No info on.
Cost expected $12/dose

Johnson & Johnson
US $1billion for 100 million doses, EU 200 million doses, production 1 billion doses in 2021. (per 12/4 Dr. Campbell video) - Note: They started out in September with 1 dose trial of 60k, and a second phase 3 trial with 2 doses began on November 16th

Source:
Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #87

Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #87

I had never read this before... information on operation Warp Speed which I found of interest much of the info.
Fact Sheet: Explaining Operation Warp Speed

This document has lots of information as to priorities of vaccines and who gets and when that I've never heard in MSM. I found the document very educational. More specifics from this past week though.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/imz-ma...D-19-Vaccination-Program-Interim_Playbook.pdf

 

[ilovewings]

More than half of NYC firefighters say they will NOT take a COVID vaccine | Daily Mail Online

Half of New York City fire fighters say they will not take the vaccine for COVID

I find that scary----

 

[dixiegirl1035]

@margarita25 and others that follow MIS-C in children, there will be a JAMA live at 4 pm eastern today.

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[dmac55]

Even though the New York Times is usually behind a paywall, it's letting me read/see this article
There is a basic vaccine calculator within the article

Opinion | When Can I Get a Coronavirus Vaccine in America? - The New York Times
Opinion | Find Your Place in the Vaccine Line

This is a more in-depth calculator:
Vaccine Allocation Planner
Vaccine Allocation Planner

 

[ilovewings]

Even though the New York Times is usually behind a paywall, it's letting me read/see this article
There is a basic vaccine calculator within the article

Opinion | When Can I Get a Coronavirus Vaccine in America? - The New York Times
Opinion | Find Your Place in the Vaccine Line

This is a more in-depth calculator:
Vaccine Allocation Planner
Vaccine Allocation Planner

Thanks for posting this great info: I am way down the line even though I am in the elderly population