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Officials: Salisbury VA likely to receive a COVID-19 vaccine by mid-December once approved

“Officials say the Salisbury Veterans Affairs Health Care System likely will receive a COVID-19 vaccine by mid-December once the Pfizer-produced immunization is approved by the Federal Drug Administration.

The vaccine will be optional for both Veterans and employees.

The vaccine will be received and distributed in phases, meaning there won’t be enough for everyone the first time around. However, providers are hopeful that everyone who wants it will be able to receive the vaccine by mid-2021.”
 
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I really hope Biden has misspoken the figures here:
Jennifer Jacobs
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“I don't want to scare anybody here but understand the facts: we're likely to lose another 250,000 people, dead, between now and January, because people aren't paying attention,” Biden said during an economic round table on coronavirus pandemic.
 
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I really hope Biden has misspoken the figures here:
Jennifer Jacobs
@JenniferJJacobs


“I don't want to scare anybody here but understand the facts: we're likely to lose another 250,000 people, dead, between now and January, because people aren't paying attention,” Biden said during an economic round table on coronavirus pandemic.

Well...it looks like we'll be at 3000 deaths per day in the next couple of days. We may be at 4000 deaths a day before Christmas. With about 60 days between now and end of January, Biden's figures are entirely possible. What we don't know is how high the deaths will go...but we aren't seeing the real toll of Thanksgiving yet - and we have more holidays ahead of us.

I assume he means "combined total for December and January." If we average 3500 deaths a day from now until the end of December, that's about 100,000 dead just in December. We'd have to average 4500 a day in January to get to 240,000 or so.

Entirely possible, sadly. All the studies are showing that COVID is now absolutely everywhere (in terms of geographical distribution in the US). Small towns may just be getting their first cases, but it will burn through those places like wildfire if they are taking a casual approach to this.

I feel so badly for our healthcare workers - it's very depressing. I surely do hope we all stay healthy and don't need emergency care (for anything) for the next few months.
 
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I really hope Biden has misspoken the figures here:
Jennifer Jacobs
@JenniferJJacobs


“I don't want to scare anybody here but understand the facts: we're likely to lose another 250,000 people, dead, between now and January, because people aren't paying attention,” Biden said during an economic round table on coronavirus pandemic.

These were the projections from the last update early November

IHME | COVID-19 Projections Deaths

IHME | COVID-19 Projections Infections
 
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I really hope Biden has misspoken the figures here:
Jennifer Jacobs
@JenniferJJacobs


“I don't want to scare anybody here but understand the facts: we're likely to lose another 250,000 people, dead, between now and January, because people aren't paying attention,” Biden said during an economic round table on coronavirus pandemic.

I hope he's wrong too, but if the situation in Canada is any example, our daily Covid cases doubled in the four weeks after our Thanksgiving, and Canadians are, for the most part, supporting the measures to prevent the spread.

Canada Coronavirus: 387,017 Cases and 12,301 Deaths - Worldometer
 
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Well...it looks like we'll be at 3000 deaths per day in the next couple of days. We may be at 4000 deaths a day before Christmas. With about 60 days between now and end of January, Biden's figures are entirely possible. What we don't know is how high the deaths will go...but we aren't seeing the real toll of Thanksgiving yet - and we have more holidays ahead of us.

I assume he means "combined total for December and January." If we average 3500 deaths a day from now until the end of December, that's about 100,000 dead just in December. We'd have to average 4500 a day in January to get to 240,000 or so.

Entirely possible, sadly. All the studies are showing that COVID is now absolutely everywhere (in terms of geographical distribution in the US). Small towns may just be getting their first cases, but it will burn through those places like wildfire if they are taking a casual approach to this.

I feel so badly for our healthcare workers - it's very depressing. I surely do hope we all stay healthy and don't need emergency care (for anything) for the next few months.
It's like 9/11 tragedy hapening once everyday for December, then 1.5 times a day for the month of January.:(:(
 
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U.S. tops 'unfathomable' milestone of 100,000 Covid hospitalizations: 'We're all on edge'

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Earlier this week, Orlowski’s organization, the AAMC, announced that it is encouraging all health systems to prepare to deploy “Crisis Standards of Care,” which is typically used in severe situations such as the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and natural disasters.

Orlowski explained that crisis care essentially means the rationing of care in hospitals. The goal is “to provide the best care possible to the largest number of people with the resources available,” AAMC said. But it also means difficult decisions will be made about whom to use scarce resources on, Orlowski added.
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U.S. tops 'unfathomable' milestone of 100,000 Covid hospitalizations: 'We're all on edge'

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Earlier this week, Orlowski’s organization, the AAMC, announced that it is encouraging all health systems to prepare to deploy “Crisis Standards of Care,” which is typically used in severe situations such as the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and natural disasters.

Orlowski explained that crisis care essentially means the rationing of care in hospitals. The goal is “to provide the best care possible to the largest number of people with the resources available,” AAMC said. But it also means difficult decisions will be made about whom to use scarce resources on, Orlowski added.
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You beat me to it. I was just about to post this.
I am so afraid to see the numbers in 2-3 weeks!
MOO
 
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Sad to say the US has had its highest Covid death toll today, since it all began. Current figure is 2810 with a couple of states still to report, the previous highest was 2744 on April 21st. :(

Sooo...we are definitely well on our way to 3000 deaths per day. By tomorrow, I'd think.

While new cases are getting close to 300,000 per day. So hard to believe we got ourselves into this place. That predicts a future death rate of at least 4000 per day (if not way more).

It's been really hard watching Thanksgiving unfold and hearing the pleas of our health workers. Doctors are going without sleep. Working for hundreds of days in a row without a break...
 
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Iowa numbers and news today: As of 10:00-11:00 a.m., we had 2,964 new "confirmed" cases of which 142,249 are recovering (+4,816). 22 more were reported to have passed for a total of 2,449. 181 were hospitalized in the last 24 hrs. for a total of 1,162 (-10). According to KWWL there are 89,168 active postive cases fo with a 24 hr. positivity rate of 42.9%.
Dec. 2: Almost 3,000 new COVID-19 cases in Iowa, 4,816 recoveries, 22 more deaths
access Daily case totals updated at 11:00 a.m.
Governor Reynolds announces COVID-19 Arts & Cultural Recovery Program
Sen. Grassley pushes for bipartisan coronavirus aid package
Doctor explains difference between the three COVID-19 vaccines
Long-term care facilities say they won't see a change until vaccine is distributed
Des Moines, Iowa blames $25M in lost revenue on COVID-19
Cedar Rapids hospitals say they’re ready for potential post-Thanksgiving COVID spike
Iowa remains in red zone for COVID-19 cases as officials anticipate post-Thanksgiving surge
 
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It's going to be very difficult during the early days of vaccination too, when some of the vulnerable are vaccinated, and others are not. Families will let down their guard when Gramma has been vaccinated, but maybe not their younger, high risk uncle who lives with her. Those who are not vaccinated during that period will likely be at the highest risk ever.

I see what you mean but really every vaccination will help- any unvaccinated person can get infected and start producing virons.... hopefully, any vaccinated person shuts down their viron production fairly quickly and is less infectious.... IMO
 
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"Deaths at U.S. nursing homes for the week ended last Thursday topped 3,000 — the highest weekly death toll since June, pushing cumulative fatalities over 100,000, according to the tracking project."

“I’ve likened nursing homes to being like a tinderbox. It takes one person, one person, to unknowingly bring the virus into a facility and it could kill several people, make a lot of people sick”

No matter what precautions staff take, it’s going to be difficult to prevent outbreaks in nursing homes, said Ouslander, who is also a professor of integrated medical science. “All those elements of the perfect storm are in place.”

Two elderly (ages 95 and 100) members of my extended family died of Covid-19 last month. They were in the same nursing home in Illinois, which has been having an outbreak. The next time I travel to Illinois, I'll have new graves to visit in the cemetery where many of my father's relatives are buried.
 
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Our state has earned sick time for everyone (pretty much) since about 5 years PC My spouses company (not healthcare but essential) in March gave him many weeks of paid covid time on top of his regular earned time. It expires at the end of the year lol.
So basically just saying (preaching to the choir here mostly. But safely and socially distanced:confused:). That it shouldn’t have to come down to that. *sigh*.

I’ve been doing a bit of “what if’ing” tonight. Just glancing at the numbers (and local anecdata). What if we weren’t currently finally staring into a vaccine. Holy crap.

I have noticed *personally* and imo the loudest “no vaccine for me” folks are mostly the same ones who are antimask , have a life to live etc
Dunno how that will play out.


What is with people like this?! Unfortunately, I was talking to a few young folks, one said she was feeling sick. I asked if she wanted information about free Covid testing. She said, "No". Why? She doesn't want to miss work, she can't afford it.
 
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Two elderly (ages 95 and 100) members of my extended family died of Covid-19 last month. They were in the same nursing home in Illinois, which has been having an outbreak. The next time I travel to Illinois, I'll have new graves to visit in the cemetery where many of my father's relatives are buried.

this virus really makes it seem as if nursing homes are the worst place for the elderly- as if they would be better off living in complete isolation (of course once they are unable to care for themselves, which is highly likely why they are in a home, not possible). Should the most feeble elderly be cared for by robots to avoid infection? Seems so inhumane but...
 
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Two elderly (ages 95 and 100) members of my extended family died of Covid-19 last month. They were in the same nursing home in Illinois, which has been having an outbreak. The next time I travel to Illinois, I'll have new graves to visit in the cemetery where many of my father's relatives are buried.

So sorry to hear this. Just recently saw that five people in my small town died yesterday of Covid. Makes this pretty real and scary.
 
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