Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #89

[GRT]

Health dept should be able to give you a timeline. Our states website has a decent page up already. Does she live independently? I think those living in facilities are near the top of the list.

Yes, she lives independently, but she seems more frail than ever. I heard that healthcare workers would be first, then nursing home residents and inmates, and then it might be her turn. I don't mind waiting to be vaccinated since I'm a lot healthier, but I hope she can get it soon. I'll check out state health department. Thank you!

 

[dixiegirl1035]

RSBM
(Starting April 2021) The vaccine is expected to be available to the general public.
Phase 3 vaccination settings:
Once the vaccine is available to the general public, public vaccine clinics will be available on the CDC’s interactive website: vaccinefinder.org. You will also be able to check with your primary care provider, local pharmacy or local health department.

I had never heard of such planned. Thank you for sharing the vaccinefinder. I've saved the link for later. 4 months from now for me? ......

 

[gngr~snap]

Question for all. If you see an article/study/report on how mRNA vaccines are done/grown large scale, can you post as I would like to learn how the mRNA is replicated in such quantity. It's not cell culture like the old ones I'm familiar with the technology (or going further back in eggs!)... wondering minds want to know and educate.

And furthermore, how does having a computer sequence of the virus in January get taken from the coding, into a computer, and then to real life making a snippet in quantities. (or heck, for the antibodies development also)

I can't wrap my mind around how this is done. And with Dr. C and Dr. S backgrounds here, perhaps it could be understood if a technical paper?

I haven't seen anything on such on threads...

Thanks.

ETA: I said before and will again.. this is like the moonshot in the 60's.. the scientific community is doing an exponential learning phase for this virus which can be used for other diseases perhaps. I firmly believe such.

This might interest you as well. It is a way they can project the spread.
Who knew?
MOO
National Wastewater Surveillance System

 

[dixiegirl1035]

This might interest you as well. It is a way they can project the spread.
Who knew?
MOO
National Wastewater Surveillance System

Yes, I've been following such and it blows my mind that there is such sensitivity to get specificity also in the sewage. Not only diluted beyond comprehension, but in a microbial mixture of such.

I would expect there may be some cross reactivity? Yet if numbers go up and up etc... a red flag/canary in the mine.

 

[weepingangel]

What to make of the record coronavirus levels in Boston-area wastewater | Boston.com
According to Biobot data updated Friday, both the southern and northern system of the MWRA’s service area reported all-time high levels of COVID-19 in wastewater earlier this week. And while the southern system reported a slight downtick Thursday, the northern system, which includes Boston, continued to rise.

“Wake up,” Joseph Allen, a professor at Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health, tweeted Friday morning. “We’re in trouble here.”




COVID Levels in Boston's Sewers Are Higher Than at Any Point in the Pandemic
As COVID-19 cases continue to spike in Massachusetts, there's another troubling sign that things may continue to get worse before they get any better.
Traces of COVID-19 at the sewage plant that treats wastewater for Boston and many of its suburbs are higher right now than at any point during the pandemic, according to public data shared by the Massachusetts Water Resources Authority.

 

[Rose in SC]

COVID-19 gave this Ohio family a 'sucker punch.' Powerful family emails show how tragedy unfolded.


Akron Beacon Journal
Sun, December 13, 2020, 6:00 AM EST

The Malinowski family at the wedding of Frank "Keith" Malinowski, second from right, including his father Frank, on right, sister Jamie, and mother Jody.

Powerful family emails show how tragedy unfolded.

The family has granted the Akron Beacon Journal, part of the USA TODAY Network, permission to print those emails, which have been lightly edited for clarity and length, in the hopes they can convince others to take the virus seriously as cases and hospitalizations continue to surge.

They show, in real time, the reality of the virus that has caused more than 290,000 deaths in the United States, yet still has its skeptics and naysayers.

They also show a family clinging to joy, wherever they can find it.

Oct. 15, 4:12 p.m. "Dad was tested for COVID yesterday evening...."

Thank you for posting this. The son is an excellent writer, especially considering those were emails he was writing, not a newspaper article. Sadly, even without knowing the details of this story, as soon as I saw the picture posted, I thought to myself "the younger overweight woman is going to die" (and I say that as an older overweight woman). I wonder what blood type they all had?

 

[SouthAussie]

This might interest you as well. It is a way they can project the spread.
Who knew?
MOO
National Wastewater Surveillance System

We watch our wastewater closely here in Australia, for covid. And when covid is found in the wastewater, local people are urged to go for testing. They say it can indicate the virus as early as 3 weeks before any outbreak can start.


Wastewater testing flushes out COVID-19 cases weeks before people show symptoms • Glam Adelaide

Victorian COVID fragments detected in Geelong and Lara wastewater, prompting warning

Wastewater testing has found COVID-19 fragments at the wastewater treatment plant at Wynnum.

 

[gngr~snap]

We watch our wastewater closely here in Australia, for covid. And when covid is found in the wastewater, local people are urged to go for testing. They say it can indicate the virus as early as 3 weeks before any outbreak can start.


Wastewater testing flushes out COVID-19 cases weeks before people show symptoms • Glam Adelaide

Victorian COVID fragments detected in Geelong and Lara wastewater, prompting warning

Wastewater testing has found COVID-19 fragments at the wastewater treatment plant at Wynnum.

Yes. I believe that's how they forecast the numbers in most areas now.
So scary!
I am continuing to hunker down. It's really getting on my nerves now, but now it is more important than ever to remain vigilant. The numbers near me are even worse than March/April of 2020.
Schools here are not going back tomorrow for face to face learning and I fear that we will see a repeat of 2020 and kids may not return until the fall of 2021.
High 5 to everyone. I know it's hard, but... eventually it will end. Life will be different from there on out I am sure.
All we can do as a family is support each other and shelter in place 2 weeks at a time to be able to stop by and say hello in person!
MOO

 

[SouthAussie]

Question for all. If you see an article/study/report on how mRNA vaccines are done/grown large scale, can you post as I would like to learn how the mRNA is replicated in such quantity. It's not cell culture like the old ones I'm familiar with the technology (or going further back in eggs!)... wondering minds want to know and educate.

And furthermore, how does having a computer sequence of the virus in January get taken from the coding, into a computer, and then to real life making a snippet in quantities. (or heck, for the antibodies development also)

I can't wrap my mind around how this is done. And with Dr. C and Dr. S backgrounds here, perhaps it could be understood if a technical paper?

I haven't seen anything on such on threads...

Thanks.

ETA: I said before and will again.. this is like the moonshot in the 60's.. the scientific community is doing an exponential learning phase for this virus which can be used for other diseases perhaps. I firmly believe such.

I haven't time to go down that rabbit hole yet, but I can say that Katalin Karikó was the one who started the mRNA investigations and experimentations back in the 1990s, with Drew Weissman collaborating, then others.
This article briefly mentions scientific papers that may be available out there to read.

I also read that a new technology allowed the further development.

The story of mRNA: From a loose idea to a tool that may help curb Covid

 

[weepingangel]

Sweden’s Covid Workers Are Quitting in Dangerous Numbers
more at link
Sweden faces a shortage of health-care workers as the number of resignations ticks up after a relentless year of caring for Covid patients.


Sineva Ribeiro, the chairwoman of the Swedish Association of Health Professionals, says the situation is “terrible.”

Even before the first wave of the pandemic back in March, there was “a shortage of specialist nurses, including at ICUs,” she said in a phone interview.

The development shows that even countries with universal health-care systems are struggling to keep up with the Covid crisis. This week, Stockholm’s intensive care capacity hit 99%, sending the city into a panic and prompting calls for outside help.


But even if more ICU beds are provided, the bigger concern now is whether Sweden has enough health-care workers with the skills needed to look after the country’s sickest patients.

 

[dmac55]

"Protecting the elderly will not only save the most lives, it will also get everyone back to work quickly. The main reason for most people to stay home if they can is to protect the vulnerable."

Bioethicist: Why the UK is getting vaccine distribution right and the US is not | TheHill
Bioethicist: Why the UK is getting vaccine distribution right and the US is not

 

[nightowl1975]

But even if more ICU beds are provided, the bigger concern now is whether Sweden has enough health-care workers with the skills needed to look after the country’s sickest patients.

It’s never really been about actual hospital beds. We can throw extra beds in any number of places. Erect medical tents in parking garages. Add beds to convention centers or stadiums.

The actual problem has always been what’s our plan to STAFF these beds? We cannot magically produce ICU nurses or doctors or respiratory therapists. Even if we had attempted to fast track such individuals from very early on in the pandemic, we cannot produce experienced doctors and nurses and allied health care professionals in a matter of months.

 

[GRT]

This might interest you as well. It is a way they can project the spread.
Who knew?
MOO
National Wastewater Surveillance System

I heard about this before -- about how they could test wastewater and if they found an abundance of the virus, they could accurately predict that the death rate was going to rise exponentially. That's pretty sharp.

But it brought to mind back then, and again now something that makes me feel a little leery. Farts. I know this sounds like an off-color subject but if fecal matter contains the virus, farts might, too. And, the clothing that a person is wearing might not block the virus--at least not if you can, you know, smell the toot. Because if you can smell it, it means the particles that were in the person's body a minute ago are now in your nasal passages. I understand how wearing a mask will reduce the exhaled droplets that can get into the air, but I keep thinking it could also be spread by toots.

I apologize if that offends anyone, it's just something I've been fixated on and I haven't really read anything that has convinced me it isn't an issue.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

This might interest you as well. It is a way they can project the spread.
Who knew?
MOO
National Wastewater Surveillance System

Thanks for the information, I do hope that mainstream media educates people that when it is in the sewage and comes out the back end of people that it is not contagious. It is the remnants of the virus. This is analogous to the very beginning of the epidemic where are they had people that had PCR positive but that is because they were remnants of the virions..it's not contagious nor infective virus M o o

 

[Niner]

I heard about this before -- about how they could test wastewater and if they found an abundance of the virus, they could accurately predict that the death rate was going to rise exponentially. That's pretty sharp.

But it brought to mind back then, and again now something that makes me feel a little leery. Farts. I know this sounds like an off-color subject but if fecal matter contains the virus, farts might, too. And, the clothing that a person is wearing might not block the virus--at least not if you can, you know, smell the toot. Because if you can smell it, it means the particles that were in the person's body a minute ago are now in your nasal passages. I understand how wearing a mask will reduce the exhaled droplets that can get into the air, but I keep thinking it could also be spread by toots.

I apologize if that offends anyone, it's just something I've been fixated on and I haven't really read anything that has convinced me it isn't an issue.

So they will have to add that to the signs - No tooting allowed!

 

[MsBetsy]

So they will have to add that to the signs - No tooting allowed!

Well, as long as people keep their pants on, we probably don't have to worry about it.

 

[MimosaMornings]

Family kicked off United Airlines flight after toddler refuses to wear mask — New York Post

“She wrote in a caption on the Instagram video that they had planned on meeting up with friends and family in the Garden State for the first time in years, and take to their daughter to see the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree, but were instead grounded in Colorado.”

“Orban said on Instagram that they had previously flown with their daughter “4 times already since the pandemic, without ever having an issue.”

“United Airlines said in a statement to Heavy that their own mask policy includes children as young as two.”

 

[SoCalDavidS]

Family kicked off United Airlines flight after toddler refuses to wear mask — New York Post

“She wrote in a caption on the Instagram video that they had planned on meeting up with friends and family in the Garden State for the first time in years, and take to their daughter to see the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree, but were instead grounded in Colorado.”

And there it is. They were flying across the country, in the middle of a pandemic, to visit friends and family they've managed to go years without seeing, and take their "toddler" daughter, to see a Christmas Tree, that she won't remember 10 years from now anyways.

Other than that, I'm sure they're very responsible, and taking this pandemic thingie seriously.

Oh, and nice to see all the support she's getting in the comments. No surprise.

 

[LadyL]

The Pfizer vaccine's temperature requirements are the most difficult of any of the proposed coronavirus vaccines, as they have to be kept at temperatures between -60 C and -80 C until just before injection.

UPS shares ‘1st images’ of coronavirus vaccine en route to Canada

Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine is not approved for Canadians under 16. Here’s why

 

[LadyL]

Study Confirms Nose Holes Connect to Lungs

Why leaving your nose hanging out of your mask could spread COVID and land you hefty fines (Canada)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calg...mao2DMHXXylELJUJ4uX84SHxYchdo4_HbJ8bSz3VLlDz0