Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #89

[astheworldfallsdown]

COVID-19: Boris Johnson says it is 'vital' people forming 'Christmas bubbles' minimise contacts from today

People forming "Christmas bubbles" are being told it is "vital" that they minimise contact with others from outside their household from today.

In a message on his Twitter account, which included a link to government guidance around the easing of COVID-19 rules over the festive period, Boris Johnson said: "If you are forming a Christmas Bubble, it's vital that from today, you minimise contact with people from outside your household.

"Everyone must take personal responsibility to avoid passing the virus on to loved ones this Christmas."

 

[SouthAussie]

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If necessary, the U.S. should pay people to get a COVID-19 vaccine

But once those vaccines are widely available, they will not necessarily get us back to normal. Enough of us must be vaccinated to get the country to “true” herd immunity

One way to ensure this result: pay people $1000 to take the vaccine, but in two stages: an initial $200 for taking the shot (actually now after the second shot), and the $800 balance when herd immunity is achieved.

Assuming 75% of Americans take the vaccine, that means an up-front cost of about $50 billion, and then roughly another $200 billion only if the herd immunity target (discussed below) is achieved.

The total price tag is a fraction of the $2 trillion-plus spent on the CARES Act and the added $900 billion relief package congressional negotiators are close to agreeing on at this writing.

The reason for holding out the $800 balance until herd immunity is achieved is to provide strong incentives for everyone to encourage—in real life and on social media— their friends, family, work colleagues, and members of their religious communities to get vaccinated.

 

[PingTheRouter]

Vasovagal syncope

i have this with needles, the amount of times iv passed out before the needle has even touched my skin.. i mean... lol

 

[ilovewings]

8 Nuns Die of COVID-19 in Last Week at Wisconsin Convent
more at link
Eight nuns living at a retirement home for sisters in suburban Milwaukee died of COVID-19 complications in the last week — including four who passed away on the same day — a grim reminder of how quickly the virus can spread in congregate living situations, even when precautions are taken.

Notre Dame of Elm Grove had been free of the virus for the last nine months, but the congregation that runs the home found out on Thanksgiving Day that one of the roughly 100 sisters who live there had tested positive. Despite social distancing and other mitigation efforts that were already in place, several more positive tests followed, said Sister Debra Marie Sciano, the provincial leader for School Sisters of Notre Dame Central Pacific Province.

The first death happened last week, and the death announcements kept coming. Four of the eight nuns died on Monday alone, a difficult situation for other sisters in the home and members of the broader congregation, who consider each other family.

So very sad

 

[dixiegirl1035]

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If necessary, the U.S. should pay people to get a COVID-19 vaccine

But once those vaccines are widely available, they will not necessarily get us back to normal. Enough of us must be vaccinated to get the country to “true” herd immunity

One way to ensure this result: pay people $1000 to take the vaccine, but in two stages: an initial $200 for taking the shot (actually now after the second shot), and the $800 balance when herd immunity is achieved.

Assuming 75% of Americans take the vaccine, that means an up-front cost of about $50 billion, and then roughly another $200 billion only if the herd immunity target (discussed below) is achieved.

The total price tag is a fraction of the $2 trillion-plus spent on the CARES Act and the added $900 billion relief package congressional negotiators are close to agreeing on at this writing.

The reason for holding out the $800 balance until herd immunity is achieved is to provide strong incentives for everyone to encourage—in real life and on social media— their friends, family, work colleagues, and members of their religious communities to get vaccinated.

MOO, on the face of it, a truly just awful idea as to have folks think they can wait if they are low income/doing it for the money. Terrible idea. I have never heard of such for public health and would set a frightening precedence. Many other reasons..... MOO

 

[ilovewings]

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[weepingangel]

Former President Jimmy Carter to receive coronavirus vaccine 'when it is available to him'
CNN —Former President Jimmy Carter's foundation announced Thursday that the 39th president is planning to receive the COVID-19 vaccine.
"After consulting with his doctors, President Carter is looking forward to receiving the COVID-19 vaccine when it is available to him," the center said in a short statement Thursday night posted on Twitter. Carter is 96 years old.
The news comes after fellow former Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton said earlier this month that they would get COVID-19 vaccines publicly to prove it's safe.
At the time of the trio's announcement, The Carter Center emphasized Carter's and his wife's support for vaccine efforts.




Mitch McConnell says he will get COVID-19 vaccine 'in the coming days'
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell announced Thursday that he will be receiving the coronavirus vaccine within days.
"Because of government continuity requirements, I have been informed by the Office of the Attending Physician that I am eligible for a COVID-19 vaccine, which I will accept in the coming days," the Kentucky Republican said in a statement Thursday.
CNN has reached out to the other congressional leadership offices — Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy — about whether they too will be vaccinated.

McConnell said he was "disappointed to see early public sentiment that shows some hesitation towards receiving a vaccine."
"The only way to beat this pandemic is for us to follow the advice of our nation's health care professionals: get vaccinated and continue to follow (U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) guidelines," he continued, adding, "I truly hope all Kentuckians and Americans will heed this advice and accept this safe and effective vaccine."

 

[I'm Just Here]

I am struggling with the idea paying a person to get the Covid 19 vaccine. Part of me agrees its ok except will those patients see a Doctor for a health background physical and so forth first? I am afraid of the vaccine but yet want it. Money would be nice along with it. My nurse sister said she's ready for hers from what she has seen what some of her patients have gone through. She would rather take a chance on the mild side effect from a vaccine. The vaccine is not injecting Covid, A live virus in a person.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

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If necessary, the U.S. should pay people to get a COVID-19 vaccine

But once those vaccines are widely available, they will not necessarily get us back to normal. Enough of us must be vaccinated to get the country to “true” herd immunity

One way to ensure this result: pay people $1000 to take the vaccine, but in two stages: an initial $200 for taking the shot (actually now after the second shot), and the $800 balance when herd immunity is achieved.

Assuming 75% of Americans take the vaccine, that means an up-front cost of about $50 billion, and then roughly another $200 billion only if the herd immunity target (discussed below) is achieved.

The total price tag is a fraction of the $2 trillion-plus spent on the CARES Act and the added $900 billion relief package congressional negotiators are close to agreeing on at this writing.

The reason for holding out the $800 balance until herd immunity is achieved is to provide strong incentives for everyone to encourage—in real life and on social media— their friends, family, work colleagues, and members of their religious communities to get vaccinated.

On either October 18th or 19th... Dr. Campbell did a break out of the percentage population within different age demographics. He did visuals as to such.

How in the US can can that demographic even be considered at this time to meet herd needs as so far... young folks in those large numbers of the % of the US are not approved in the near term for vaccinations.

 

[dmac55]

Re: cash for being vaccinated

I have mixed feelings about it, but my initial feeling is it couldn't hurt
My 20something grandchildren who either don't understand or believe the vaccine is a good thing, or are parroting that the government doesn't have a right to control their bodies...
Did I mention they don't understand?

They would be ALL ABOUT getting a vaccine if $1000 was involved
I would prefer $1000 upon 2nd vaccination
I wouldn't require the herd immunity provision
But I'm not in charge

My view

Edited to add:
To me, herd immunity has a natural reward/motivator, which would be that things can open back up

 

[dixiegirl1035]

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If necessary, the U.S. should pay people to get a COVID-19 vaccine

But once those vaccines are widely available, they will not necessarily get us back to normal. Enough of us must be vaccinated to get the country to “true” herd immunity

One way to ensure this result: pay people $1000 to take the vaccine, but in two stages: an initial $200 for taking the shot (actually now after the second shot), and the $800 balance when herd immunity is achieved.

Assuming 75% of Americans take the vaccine, that means an up-front cost of about $50 billion, and then roughly another $200 billion only if the herd immunity target (discussed below) is achieved.

The total price tag is a fraction of the $2 trillion-plus spent on the CARES Act and the added $900 billion relief package congressional negotiators are close to agreeing on at this writing.

The reason for holding out the $800 balance until herd immunity is achieved is to provide strong incentives for everyone to encourage—in real life and on social media— their friends, family, work colleagues, and members of their religious communities to get vaccinated.

Upthread I stated I had never heard of such..that the government would compensate for getting the shot as a bad precedent..... but with this post made me think again. My carrier at this time... BCBS HMO through Obamacare will give me a $30 gift certificate if I get my girly girl check up.

 

[weepingangel]

Upthread I stated I had never heard of such.that the government would compensate for getting the shot as a bad precedent.but with this post made me think again.My carrier at this time. BCBS will give me a $30 gift certificate if I get my girly girl check up.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Shoppers urged to avoid ‘risky’ Boxing Day sales

Shoppers have been urged to avoid the Boxing Day sales this year because of the “risk” of coronavirus spreading in crowded places.

A warning has been issued by the Scottish Government about the sales, which often see bargain hunters queuing outside shops from early in the morning.

They were described as “notoriously crowded places” by the health secretary, who said at the daily briefing nothing in the sales can be “worth that risk”.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

.

If necessary, the U.S. should pay people to get a COVID-19 vaccine

But once those vaccines are widely available, they will not necessarily get us back to normal. Enough of us must be vaccinated to get the country to “true” herd immunity

One way to ensure this result: pay people $1000 to take the vaccine, but in two stages: an initial $200 for taking the shot (actually now after the second shot), and the $800 balance when herd immunity is achieved.

Assuming 75% of Americans take the vaccine, that means an up-front cost of about $50 billion, and then roughly another $200 billion only if the herd immunity target (discussed below) is achieved.

The total price tag is a fraction of the $2 trillion-plus spent on the CARES Act and the added $900 billion relief package congressional negotiators are close to agreeing on at this writing.

The reason for holding out the $800 balance until herd immunity is achieved is to provide strong incentives for everyone to encourage—in real life and on social media— their friends, family, work colleagues, and members of their religious communities to get vaccinated.

On either October 18th or 19th... Dr. Campbell did a break out of the percentage population within different age demographics. He did visuals as to such.

How in the US can can that demographic even be considered at this time to meet herd needs as so far... young folks in those large numbers of the % of the US are not approved in the near term for vaccinations.

Found it. Over 20% of the US is under the age of allowance for immunization... so therefore, they/children cannot be used to reach herd immunity goal with vaccines. Potential why g'ment wanted them to get infected on purpose???? As they know they won't be allowed immunizations anytime soon? Hmmmm.



Source I found starts at 20:00 into this post from October 19th by Dr. Campbell.

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[I'm Just Here]

This years flu shot I was surprised to have been feeling blah for a day, headache, sore arm,, tired and crabby lol! My first unexpected reaction and my husband was fine. I imagine a flu shot needs to be changed every season due to the flu strain? Covid is a new vaccine as well, we need to decide what we think will be best in this Covid battle, go without a vaccine or have some immunity with majority having only slight reactions from the vaccine. We know what getting Covid does to some and the long term issues for some. Could those people have avoided suffering or death from the vaccine? No answer to that.

 

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[dmac55]

At the end of the article:
"If you don't have a choice, the church still allows the taking of the vaccine," said Father Mazanowski. "The need and the good of the vaccines themselves for society outweighs this problem."

Diocese of Phoenix says only 2 COVID-19 vaccines are 'morally acceptable' | Coronavirus in Arizona | azfamily.com
Diocese of Phoenix says only 2 COVID-19 vaccines are 'morally acceptable'

 

[LaborDayRN]

MOO, on the face of it, a truly just awful idea as to have folks think they can wait if they are low income/doing it for the money. Terrible idea. I have never heard of such for public health and would set a frightening precedence. Many other reasons..... MOO

One problem I see with this strategy is that (as far as I have read) we don't know how long the immunity from the vaccine will last. It could be a year, it could be 5 years. If you pay people to get the vaccine this year it will set a president. Do we want to pay people every year to get the vaccine if that becomes necessary in the future? And will people then expect compensation for other vaccines? I'm just thinking out loud here............

 

[anneg]

Government officials downplay delay of COVID vaccine shipments

Several states say they have been told to expect far fewer doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine in its second week of distribution, prompting worries about potential delays in shots for health care workers and long-term care residents.

But senior Trump administration officials on Thursday downplayed the risk of delays, citing a confusion over semantics, while Pfizer said its production levels have not changed.

[snip]

“Pfizer has not had any production issues with our COVID-19 vaccine, and no shipments containing the vaccine are on hold or delayed,” spokesman Eamonn Nolan said in an email. “We are continuing to dispatch our orders to the locations specified by the U.S. government.”

 

[IceIce9]

Today’s update on COVID Valley. The coffee shop is still closed but dozens of people are gathered there waiting for COVID testing, or waiting for their COVID test results. Most aren’t wearing masks. They are sitting on the floor or standing, since all the tables and chairs have been removed.

The lab upstairs is running far behind on COVID testing appointments and results so people are waiting for a couple of hours.

Definitely a health hazard but no one has the authority to tell them to leave the area. It’s the atrium of the medical building.

I don’t go near it but use the employee entrance. We watch the disaster of COVID Valley through the back windows of our office.