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  • #641
I just saw in CA the admins and stay at homers at a larger medical system/school are now giving their vaxes to the front liners. Was controversial earlier today No link. Not LA? Somewhere near there maybe.



Gotta say, a Facebook friend showed herself proudly getting her vaccine today, at the VA. Not a veteran, not a nurse, or a doctor, or even housekeeping...social worker, who has been at home since March on telework.

It was so impossibly tone deaf, I choose to not say a word. While my 80 year old, veteran, disabled, has no idea of when he will get a vaccine.
 
  • #642
Ah it was Stanford. :oops::rolleyes:

workers are protesting the decision to give vaccines to administrators and physicians who are at home and not in contact with patients instead of frontline workers:

Stanford doctors protest vaccine plan, saying front line workers are at the back of the line - SFChronicle.com
Physicians at Stanford Medical Center held a raucous protest Friday, accusing the university of prioritizing the wrong health care workers to receive the coronavirus vaccine ahead of residents and fellows who work directly with COVID-19 patients.
 
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‘We’re getting crushed’: L.A. County hospitals won’t have room for other emergency patients if COVID-19 surge continues, doctor says | KTLA

With overcrowded Los Angeles County hospitals already scrambling to add more beds, a doctor on Friday issued a grim warning: “If we don’t stop the spread, our hospitals will be overwhelmed. If you have a heart attack, if you get into a car accident, if you fall from a ladder or have a stroke, we may not have a bed for you.”

“I’m not going to sugarcoat this. We are getting crushed,” said chief medical officer at LAC + USC Medical Center Dr. Brad Spellberg. “For most of the days of last week, we’ve had zero ICU beds open in the morning and we have had to scramble.”
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In March this year, a Navy hospital ship, Mercy came to Los Angeles, then left in May after treating only 77 non-Covid patients. Well, we desperately need the ship to come back. Where is it? Why not do everything we can do to save innocent lives, rather than ordering massive amounts of body bags and refrigerated trucks? WTH, SMH
 
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To be honest I was sitting here crying thinking about this horrible wicked plague and all the people that have been taken down, sick and/or dying- it is overwhelming if you stop and just think about it----I feel like the virus is circling- looking for victims-- I feel so vulnerable it is almost unbearable. All those people who have died would still be with us if not for Covid-
I love wings I understand....totally. The virus, death and ill people is very depressing. Then when you thought you had friends who cared and they turn and say how this is a lie, no one is sick, dying, even when it’s their own family members. They blamed me from stopping a birthday party for a one year old boy at the store his grandma owns! I never ever said anything about not having a party, nor even knew one was planned! When these no longer friends stared false accusations, saying they would purposely cause issues/disagreements etc., by arguing, not wearing a mask, etc, I knew they were not my true friends. How could I have been so wrong over 6 years? Maybe it’s their way of dealing with something they are scared of, maybe they don’t care. It was time to step away from all of these no longer friends.
Have they gotten the virus? Some, those who have not been sick say its a government conspiracy but yes there are a few who have gotten the virus. They wind up in the hospital, get out and ignore they had it and don’t abide by the rules. It just amazes me how such intelligent people can be so dumb!
The best is to limit the news you watch, read or listen too. I take total days off of no news. I go out but am super careful. I know I can get it no matter what. For me I cannot take the vaccine, cannot take any meds to lessen the fierceness of the virus, and I question my medical team all the time. It’s not that I don’t want the vaccine but I am allergic to almost every medication out there because of the inactive active ingredients. So the vaccine is not for me.
When the depression gets to be too much, find something different to do whether it’s watch a movie, read a book, sew, cook, do a craft, even facetime a friend, or perhaps watch a ‘HowToo’ on YouTube. I have 2 young grand girls. One started talking about make up.....hair doos....grandma here had boys, so I am watching make up for young teens and hair doos too! I look for some happy things to do...it helps. The best is WS! I read here as much as I can on different cases! I learn so much here. That’s a big help. Please take care.
 
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Gotta say, a Facebook friend showed herself proudly getting her vaccine today, at the VA. Not a veteran, not a nurse, or a doctor, or even housekeeping...social worker, who has been at home since March on telework.

It was so impossibly tone deaf, I choose to not say a word. While my 80 year old, veteran, disabled, has no idea of when he will get a vaccine.

I hope he is able to get vaccinated soon. You, too.
 
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It is so sad and scary ... everyone was warned and warned and warned that this was going to happen, but too many of them had their ears on mute.


“Basically, what we’re seeing now is the worst-case scenario of what we predicted several months ago. This is the deadly winter that we thought could be the case if people did not take the actions necessary to protect themselves and their loved ones,” said Wen, an emergency physician and public health professor at George Washington University.

As officials weigh implementing new restrictions, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has called on Americans not to travel for Christmas and to limit all nonessential travel.

“I’m extremely concerned about Christmas,” Wen said. “There is such a high level of virus across the country and I just hope that people will keep in mind the end is not far away. We just need to get through this holiday and through this winter.”

December is shaping up to be the Covid pandemic's deadliest month yet in the U.S.
 
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I hope he is able to get vaccinated soon. You, too.

I worry about our population of the "greatest generation". People born before 1940. They are a precious resource of amazing stories. Almost all of them have been home, hunkered down, mostly alone. Waiting for this miracle vaccine.

I just hope we don't lose more, waiting for their "turn" to get a vaccine. My husband actually said he would be fine waiting longer, so people out working would be safe.
 
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I love wings I understand....totally. The virus, death and ill people is very depressing. Then when you thought you had friends who cared and they turn and say how this is a lie, no one is sick, dying, even when it’s their own family members. They blamed me from stopping a birthday party for a one year old boy at the store his grandma owns! I never ever said anything about not having a party, nor even knew one was planned! When these no longer friends stared false accusations, saying they would purposely cause issues/disagreements etc., by arguing, not wearing a mask, etc, I knew they were not my true friends. How could I have been so wrong over 6 years? Maybe it’s their way of dealing with something they are scared of, maybe they don’t care. It was time to step away from all of these no longer friends.
Have they gotten the virus? Some, those who have not been sick say its a government conspiracy but yes there are a few who have gotten the virus. They wind up in the hospital, get out and ignore they had it and don’t abide by the rules. It just amazes me how such intelligent people can be so dumb!
The best is to limit the news you watch, read or listen too. I take total days off of no news. I go out but am super careful. I know I can get it no matter what. For me I cannot take the vaccine, cannot take any meds to lessen the fierceness of the virus, and I question my medical team all the time. It’s not that I don’t want the vaccine but I am allergic to almost every medication out there because of the inactive active ingredients. So the vaccine is not for me.
When the depression gets to be too much, find something different to do whether it’s watch a movie, read a book, sew, cook, do a craft, even facetime a friend, or perhaps watch a ‘HowToo’ on YouTube. I have 2 young grand girls. One started talking about make up.....hair doos....grandma here had boys, so I am watching make up for young teens and hair doos too! I look for some happy things to do...it helps. The best is WS! I read here as much as I can on different cases! I learn so much here. That’s a big help. Please take care.

Thank you for your sincere and eloquent response: sometimes the horror is just too much. Today my friend, who is the office manager of an attorney firm i worked for, told me she had a conversation with an attorney she has known for years: she has always liked him: Somehow the conversation drifted to the pandemic. He said he might come to the office soon: she said as long as you wear a mask and social distance, at which point he got huffy and spewed the language of this administration. He started talking about how doctors are making up statistics of death- and all that kind of stuff: she was so shocked she had to call me and share that conversation: she was astounded because she knows he is not stupid --she now knows she can never talk to him about this subject again. Sigh.Take care and be well.
 
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Thank you for your sincere and eloquent response: sometimes the horror is just too much. Today my friend, who is the office manager of an attorney firm i worked for, told me she had a conversation with an attorney she has known for years: she has always liked him: Somehow the conversation drifted to the pandemic. He said he might come to the office soon: she said as long as you wear a mask and social distance, at which point he got huffy and spewed the language of this administration. He started talking about how doctors are making up statistics of death- and all that kind of stuff: she was so shocked she had to call me and share that conversation: she was astounded because she knows he is not stupid --she now knows she can never talk to him about this subject again. Sigh.Take care and be well.

I am sorry, I dont know how to bold the part about him not being stupid. If they are not stupid, why talk such nonsense? I think it is because of fear. They do not want to believe it is as bad as it is, out of fear.
 
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Thank you for your sincere and eloquent response: sometimes the horror is just too much. Today my friend, who is the office manager of an attorney firm i worked for, told me she had a conversation with an attorney she has known for years: she has always liked him: Somehow the conversation drifted to the pandemic. He said he might come to the office soon: she said as long as you wear a mask and social distance, at which point he got huffy and spewed the language of this administration. He started talking about how doctors are making up statistics of death- and all that kind of stuff: she was so shocked she had to call me and share that conversation: she was astounded because she knows he is not stupid --she now knows she can never talk to him about this subject again. Sigh.Take care and be well.

Sighing along with you. :(
 
  • #658
I am a small restaurant owner in San Diego, California.
Since March 2020, we have enjoyed 4 OPEN, CLOSE directives by our Governor Gavin Newsom.
Two weeks ago, a judge in Los Angeles asked the government to provide proof that outside dining spreads covid.
The defendents did not provide any proof that outside dining spreads covid.
This week in my county another judge asked the question of proof, that restaurants spread Covid.
There was no evidence. So, he ruled in favor of restaurants opening.
My husband and staff and ALL restaurants here in San Diego were happy to hear that news. We've all worked so hard to institute every guidance by the CDC.
THEN. Within 12 hours, we were all shut down again by a new panel of judges.
Without any new evidence that out door dining spreads this curse.
We will continue safely serving our customers.

My husband and I would shut down in a minute, IF our leaders would give us evidence that we are part of the problem.
Until then, we refuse to lose our business due to stupid politicians with no Science or Data showing outdoor dining spreads this curse of a disease.


But. They cannot.
 
  • #659
It is so sad and scary ... everyone was warned and warned and warned that this was going to happen, but too many of them had their ears on mute.


“Basically, what we’re seeing now is the worst-case scenario of what we predicted several months ago. This is the deadly winter that we thought could be the case if people did not take the actions necessary to protect themselves and their loved ones,” said Wen, an emergency physician and public health professor at George Washington University.

As officials weigh implementing new restrictions, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has called on Americans not to travel for Christmas and to limit all nonessential travel.

“I’m extremely concerned about Christmas,” Wen said. “There is such a high level of virus across the country and I just hope that people will keep in mind the end is not far away. We just need to get through this holiday and through this winter.”

December is shaping up to be the Covid pandemic's deadliest month yet in the U.S.
I'm sad and scared, too. And angry!

This Christmas will be the Last Christmas for a lot of us. That's a mathematical certainty. Yet there are heaps of deranged people still unwilling to don on a simple mask. They just don't care about others. Someone show me how to forgive them please. We finally came down to this: not enough hospital bed, not enough medical staff, though a lot of body bags are available (not comforted).
 
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It’s a clinic inside a large building, besides our clinic there is a lab upstairs (unrelated to our clinic) and several non-medical offices. There are a couple of small business like a hair salon, a smoothie place, small restaurant snd a spa.

The coffee shop is in the atrium/lobby. No security or management on site.

believe that the building owner could do something if that entity cared- the clinic is a tenant- the landlord could prevent loitering. who is responsible for cleaning the area where people are congregating?
 
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