Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #90

[SouthAussie]

Instead of saying Santa killed residents it would be nice if Daily Mail emphasized the transmissibility of the virus responsible for their deaths.

Maybe if more people used this kind of strong language - instead of saying they are 'transmitting the virus' - more people might start to understand that they are killing and maiming others.

It might seem outrageous, and not-nice, but it is true. imo

 

[Marysmith]

Instead of saying Santa killed residents it would be nice if Daily Mail emphasized the transmissibility of the virus responsible for their deaths.

Right?! I actually looked for another article about this but the other articles are from before Christmas and don’t include the deaths over that time period.

 

[Gibbo214]

Right?! I actually looked for another article about this but the other articles are from before Christmas and don’t include the deaths over that time period.

These people did not know that the virus is transmissible in crowds?

 

[SouthAussie]

We just heard today that we have another covid-related death in Australia.

The man was one of our first covid cases, back in March, and consequently developed respiratory complications. Now those complications have caused his death.


“Sadly, a man in his 70s died earlier this week from respiratory complications following a COVID-19 infection diagnosed in March,” NSW Health officials wrote in an email update.
“He was a household contact of a locally acquired case. Although his death is considered to be related to COVID-19, he had recently tested negative, was no longer infectious and posed no risk to the community. NSW Health extends its sympathies to his family.”

NSW chief health officer Kerry Chant said the man died on December 21.

“I think this highlights the fact that sometimes the complications can be so severe that the lung damage and other complications arising from COVID, that that can subsequently be the cause of death many months later,” Dr Chant said.

There have been 56 deaths from the coronavirus in NSW since the start of the pandemic.

NSW Health also reported the state’s death toll from the virus had increased.

 

[margarita25]

Per the above video on LA County testing for variant(s), it seems there is question if the recent CA surge may be attributed to the new variant(s).

 

[Lilibet]

Instead of saying Santa killed residents it would be nice if Daily Mail emphasized the transmissibility of the virus responsible for their deaths.

Anyone who doesn’t know by know how transmissible the virus is hasn’t been paying attention. The article should have said that the care home killed the residents by inviting Santa, who also killed the residents by attending. And of course, residents and/or their families bear responsibility for attending. Lots of blame/responsibility to go around.

This news article came from Georgia where Santa and Mrs. Claus both tested positive after being part of the town parade, attending the tree lighting and being near dozens of kids.
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"I have personally known both 'Santa' and 'Mrs. Claus' my entire life and I can assure everyone that they would have never knowingly done anything to place any children in danger," Parker said. "They have both filled these roles for many years, and bringing joy to children during the holidays is one of the most important parts of their lives."

The Long City Commissioners have decided not to cancel any other holiday-themed events for the remainder of the season.

Parker says that he speaks for the majority of the commission in saying that they plan to move forward with other holiday traditions in order to bring "some sense of normalcy" to the pandemic.
Santa and Mrs. Claus mingled with dozens of kids in a Georgia town. Then the couple tested positive for COVID-19
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The lack of responsibility is rather stunning, is it not?

It certainly is! “Normalcy” does not involve inviting citizens to put themselves in harm’s way. The problem is that if the city sponsors the usual holiday traditions people will come. They will assume it’s OK because they choose not to be informed or they don’t care and they don’t want to “deprive” their children of fun. My community canceled the parade, Santa and tree lighting this year. But then, our governor here in Oregon has been proactive about restrictions throughout the entire pandemic and that sets the tone for local communities, even if individuals chafe at their “lost freeeeedom.”
JMO

 

[10ofRods]

According to the reporter in the above posted “Face the Nation“ video, this week was the deadliest week in the deadliest month for people in nursing homes and long care facilities.

Also, per Dr. Gottlieb, younger people receive some immunity from the first shot, but elderly populations really need that second booster. It will be some time before we see a reduction in mortality trends in the elderly population.

Additionally, Dr. G says, as also mentioned by Dr. O and posted above, that the US doesn’t do a lot of genomic sequencing. That which is done is done in private labs, and doesn’t get aggregated to public databases - “this needs to be fixed”. UK sequences about 10% of samples, compared to the US, which only sequences a fraction of one percent - a “better approach“ is needed to systematically sequence and track changes and variants in this virus.

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Germany mass vaccination program / Brazil yet to approve a vaccine

The Month Coronavirus Unraveled American Business | A WSJ Documentary

We do quite a bit of genomic sequencing - but yes, it's mostly universities (not necessarily "private universities" but universities in general do not report their sequences in some public setting).

Apparently UK does its sequencing through public agencies and as a result, has some turmoil about what is important and what isn't. It takes really careful study to know if variants are more virulent.

IOW, I think US academics/medical researchers have the sequencing (here in California, so many human samples back to mid-2019 have been sequenced, it's crazy) but haven't reacted to new variations without proof that the variant has a functional effect on humans. Or other animals.

Now, media here in Cali is touting that "testing includes the 'new strain'". Yep, of course it does - testing is for several distinct regions on the COVID virion, which would include the new strain. But we're getting a bit of hysteria.

It could be really really bad news, ultimately - so if the hysteria causes some people to rethink their stupid choices, that's great. It's ALL dangerous. This entire virus is dangerous - very. If people need to think that since Trump lost, it's MORE dangerous, so that they can reverse their stupid positions and wear masks - that's wonderful.

(I hope that's what the media hype ends up being about...)

 

[margarita25]

Anyone who doesn’t know by know how transmissible the virus is hasn’t been paying attention. The article should have said that the care home killed the residents by inviting Santa, who also killed the residents by attending. And of course, residents and/or their families bear responsibility for attending. Lots of blame/responsibility to go around.



It certainly is! “Normalcy” does not involve inviting citizens to put themselves in harm’s way. The problem is that if the city sponsors the usual holiday traditions people will come. They will assume it’s OK because they choose not to be informed or they don’t care and they don’t want to “deprive” their children of fun. My community canceled the parade, Santa and tree lighting this year. But then, our governor here in Oregon has been proactive about restrictions throughout the entire pandemic and that sets the tone for local communities, even if individuals chafe at their “lost freeeeedom.”
JMO

(Dear Lilibet, great to see you as always.
I was wondering if you could please bring forward that allergy and vaccine note from your State? Tia.)

 

[Lilibet]

(Dear Lilibet, great to see you as always.
I was wondering if you could please bring forward that allergy and vaccine note from your State? Tia.)

Sure ‘nuf @margarita25. Here’s the link to my post.

Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #90

 

[MimosaMornings]

NC exceeds 500,000 COVID-19 cases after adding nearly 20,000 over past 3 days | CBS 17

“North Carolina health officials Saturday added three days worth of COVID-19 data together after taking two days off for Christmas.

During that time, there were 19,419 new cases added — including 7,703 of them on Thursday, the second-highest single-day total.

The 5,371 cases added Saturday also rank among the 20 days with the most new cases.

The new cases pushed the North Carolina case total past half a million, with 513,930 COVID-19 infections recorded since March.”

Half a million just in one state.....

 

[margarita25]

 

[Yvettea]

Santa (at the care home in Belgium) didn’t test positive until 3 days after his visit. It was behaving as if there was no pandemic that allowed the transmission of the virus to 121 residents and resulted in 18 deaths. Maybe that doesn’t seem harsh enough but the care home is responsible for allowing a celebration to occur in a year when it isn’t safe to have outside visitors. The breadth of the infection is the perfect illustration of the transmissibility of the virus. Many people still do not understand and they need to. Blaming Santa doesn’t help.

 

[margarita25]

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Australia

 

[margarita25]

I wonder if these new, “more infectious” variants could also possibly increase the risks of surface transmission?

 

[SoCalDavidS]

Santa (at the care home in Belgium) didn’t test positive until 3 days after his visit. It was behaving as if there was no pandemic that allowed the transmission of the virus to 121 residents and resulted in 18 deaths. Maybe that doesn’t seem harsh enough but the care home is responsible for allowing a celebration to occur in a year when it isn’t safe to have outside visitors. The breadth of the infection is the perfect illustration of the transmissibility of the virus. Many people still do not understand and they need to. Blaming Santa doesn’t help.

People need to move their loved ones to a different care home, and that one needs to be shut down.

If not, I hope the families of the victims are able under the Belgium laws, to sue them out of business.

Redrum!

 

[margarita25]

Canada:

 

[SouthAussie]

No doubt Greg Norman will be feeling hunky-dorey pretty soon.


"[I'm on] the path to full recovery. Hoping to be out later today," he said on Instagram, adding he was receiving an infusion of antibodies.

The 65-year-old said: "This virus kicked the crap out of me like nothing I have ever experienced before."

'Kicked the crap out of me': Greg Norman back in hospital with COVID-19

 

[GRT]

Maybe if more people used this kind of strong language - instead of saying they are 'transmitting the virus' - more people might start to understand that they are killing and maiming others.

It might seem outrageous, and not-nice, but it is true. imo

I don't think it's even close to being true. It's possible that a worker in the facility or a different visitor also brought the virus in, maybe even more than one person infected various people in the facility. Correlation and causation are two very different things.

The headline claiming "Santa killed" is pure sensationalism and hyperbole.

We all need to be more cautious and careful, but the last thing we need to do is point fingers that upset the family members of the deceased and (potentially) set them on a path of revenge against the person who played Santa. That newspaper was very irresponsible in my opinion.

 

[ilovewings]

This news article came from Georgia where Santa and Mrs. Claus both tested positive after being part of the town parade, attending the tree lighting and being near dozens of kids.
~~
"I have personally known both 'Santa' and 'Mrs. Claus' my entire life and I can assure everyone that they would have never knowingly done anything to place any children in danger," Parker said. "They have both filled these roles for many years, and bringing joy to children during the holidays is one of the most important parts of their lives."

The Long City Commissioners have decided not to cancel any other holiday-themed events for the remainder of the season.

Parker says that he speaks for the majority of the commission in saying that they plan to move forward with other holiday traditions in order to bring "some sense of normalcy" to the pandemic.
Santa and Mrs. Claus mingled with dozens of kids in a Georgia town. Then the couple tested positive for COVID-19
~~

The lack of responsibility is rather stunning, is it not?

The response to this situation is outrageous!!

 

[GRT]

People need to move their loved ones to a different care home, and that one needs to be shut down.

If not, I hope the families of the victims are able under the Belgium laws, to sue them out of business.

Redrum!

That's probably a good course of action, because, ultimately, the home and its policies are responsible.

That said, a long-term care facility near me is the second-largest cluster in the state and they've followed strict safety protocols. They really have no clue how the virus was able to spread like wildfire, but one theory is that one of the new residents might have been in an early stage of infection when admitted and did not test positive at that point. Another is that a priest who came in to say last rights might have brought it in. There's so much guessing and assuming at this point.