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I wish another leader who made China an enemy and ruined the export market would read that.

I imagine that some of the US media will put their own slant on what is happening during the investigation.
I prefer to stick to WHO reports, and worldwide news.
 
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I really don't like how primary care providers have been completely cut out from this vaccine process.

Perhaps it is due to the requirement for expensive super cold storage. That is something they will need to keep an eye on, to retain the integrity of the vaccines.
 
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Crazy. Maybe we should start writing tickets and fining people who go out in public without a mask.

Re schools opening, every person I know personally who caught COVID got it from their kids who were going to school.
That might curb it but no one will enforce it.
Everyone I know got it either at work or having people outside their household over during the holidays.
At school kids are spaced out, bring their own lunch and must wear masks but it only lasted 3 weeks before the numbers went ballistic and hospitals filled up.
 
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That might curb it but no one will enforce it.
Everyone I know got it either at work or having people outside their household over during the holidays.
At school kids are spaced out, bring their own lunch and must wear masks but it only lasted 3 weeks before the numbers went ballistic and hospitals filled up.

I see kids in my neighborhood- when they come home from hybrid school (every other week; shortened days) they are wearing masks, but sometimes I see them out on bikes or on skateboards in groups and they are not masked. They are outside, but sometimes they are pretty close together.
 
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More Americans Have Now Been Vaccinated Than Infected by COVID-19

This week the country passed a hopeful milestone: There are now more Americans who have been vaccinated than have contracted COVID-19.

According to Bloomberg’s Vaccine Tracker, 26.5 million people in the country have received one or two doses of either the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine. That surpasses the 26.3 million documented U.S. cases of coronavirus since the pandemic began.

“It’s worth noting that today, for the first time, the data said that more people were vaccinated than were reported as newly diagnosed cases,” Paula Cannon, a professor at the University of Southern California’s Keck School of Medicine, told Bloomberg. “That’s worth celebrating. I’m all for that win.”
 
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I really don't like how primary care providers have been completely cut out from this vaccine process.


I believe that the vaccines should be given to patients at their physician offices (as well as other venues)---
 
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RIP Captain Tom

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Capt. Tom Moore, UK veteran who walked for NHS, dies at 100

I was just going to post this: this is so sad. He lived such a long life- probably could have lived a few more years- but was taken by this evil virus. Such a good man-
 
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I believe that the vaccines should be given to patients at their physician offices (as well as other venues)---

Well, my issue is that primary care providers have really been cut out of this all together. It almost seems coordinated against small, independent providers. Many of them were not even offered the vaccine for medical staff. The vaccines were sent to large hospitals, who inoculated their own staff first.

Primary care providers know their patients, and who meets the criteria set by each county. How does a large pharmacy chain know who has a secondary condition? Do they have staff to call and schedule appointments?

This "online plan" cuts out many minorities, people who have disabilities, and elderly who have no internet. The very people who need access to vaccines!
 
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Decreased Influenza Activity During the COVID-19 Pandemic ...

Here is an under exposed story: The flu is way down globally during the pandemic. How come nobody (not even Dr. Fauci) discusses this: i recall early on in the pandemic Dr. Fauci said there would be a double whammy in the fall: the flu and the virus together: that never materialized: why not? isn't it obvious? the steps we are taking to prevent/mitigate the virus is preventing us from getting the flu: masks, social distancing and hand washing. I believe this subject should get more attention -- to try and demonstrate to people that masks and other mitigating factors really do work. Makes you wonder why we who live in the Northern States don't wear masks in the winter when flu is so prevalent- think of all the lives that could be saved!!!!
 
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Schools have NO business being open face-to-face now! I will be graduating with an elementary education degree and certificate within a year or two, I've worked in classroom a and playgrounds and I am telling anyone who doesn't have experience with kids and/or doesn't realize: kids are the world's worst little germ factories! They do gross stuff all the time and forget to wash and sanitize their hands. I still remember having to stop a second grader from trying to eat pennies during a math lesson. They lick their hands AND other random surfaces all the time, they get way inside each other's personal space bubbles, they share food and drinks and lip gloss and cough and sneeze on each other relentlessly WITHOUT a pandemic. Even with responsible mask wearing, they will not be staying 6 ft apart! Most classes, at least here, will have 30 kids crammed into a small classroom. There is no way for them to socially distance!

And what are schools doing for lunch? Maybe in warm climates they can have them eat outside, but how will they enforce staying 6 ft apart? Much less in the north in February. Lunchtime involves eating and drinking, aka mask less activities. Kids will be talking with their friends and breathing on them during lunch. I can't even imagine the cafeterias right now. You can't shove hundreds of kids into a cafeteria and socially distance unless the cafeteria is massive! (And none are that big unless it's a big school with a tiny student population!)

Kids are being made to go back to unsafe schools right now and through no fault of their own are bringing back COVID to parents, grandparents, siblings, aunts and uncles etc. who may be vulnerable. Even if they are healthy it is accelerating the spread of COVID and that is NOT good!

Sorry for the tangent. The school thing has been weighing heavily on my mind. Luckily all the schools local to me are online only but I hear about it online and through the grapevine.
 
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Decreased Influenza Activity During the COVID-19 Pandemic ...

Here is an under exposed story: The flu is way down globally during the pandemic. How come nobody (not even Dr. Fauci) discusses this: i recall early on in the pandemic Dr. Fauci said there would be a double whammy in the fall: the flu and the virus together: that never materialized: why not? isn't it obvious? the steps we are taking to prevent/mitigate the virus is preventing us from getting the flu: masks, social distancing and hand washing. I believe this subject should get more attention -- to try and demonstrate to people that masks and other mitigating factors really do work. Makes you wonder why we who live in the Northern States don't wear masks in the winter when flu is so prevalent- think of all the lives that could be saved!!!!

Awesome article and point. Going forward, we should take what we've learned from this pandemic and apply it to all aspects of health and safety. Not to mention the people who think that hand washing is optional!
 
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Schools have NO business being open face-to-face now! I will be graduating with an elementary education degree and certificate within a year or two, I've worked in classroom a and playgrounds and I am telling anyone who doesn't have experience with kids and/or doesn't realize: kids are the world's worst little germ factories! They do gross stuff all the time and forget to wash and sanitize their hands. I still remember having to stop a second grader from trying to eat pennies during a math lesson. They lick their hands AND other random surfaces all the time, they get way inside each other's personal space bubbles, they share food and drinks and lip gloss and cough and sneeze on each other relentlessly WITHOUT a pandemic. Even with responsible mask wearing, they will not be staying 6 ft apart! Most classes, at least here, will have 30 kids crammed into a small classroom. There is no way for them to socially distance!

And what are schools doing for lunch? Maybe in warm climates they can have them eat outside, but how will they enforce staying 6 ft apart? Much less in the north in February. Lunchtime involves eating and drinking, aka mask less activities. Kids will be talking with their friends and breathing on them during lunch. I can't even imagine the cafeterias right now. You can't shove hundreds of kids into a cafeteria and socially distance unless the cafeteria is massive! (And none are that big unless it's a big school with a tiny student population!)

Kids are being made to go back to unsafe schools right now and through no fault of their own are bringing back COVID to parents, grandparents, siblings, aunts and uncles etc. who may be vulnerable. Even if they are healthy it is accelerating the spread of COVID and that is NOT good!

Sorry for the tangent. The school thing has been weighing heavily on my mind. Luckily all the schools local to me are online only but I hear about it online and through the grapevine.

Literally everyone I know, who caught Covid, has a child in the "chain". Whether it was a grandchild, or caught it from a relative who has a child.
 
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We have a Member of Parliament here, Craig Kelly (for a southern area of NSW), who has been making inappropriate right wing statements about why don't we try hydroxychloroquine (umm... on what covid cases?), are the vaccines safe, etc etc.

He is in the same political party as the Prime Minister of our country - and he had to meet with the Prime Minister yesterday and was told to cut it out, quit going against the medical experts.

He then issued a statement - be it carefully worded - so I guess he has decided to appear to stop his stupid malarkey. (Not sure I like the ambiguity of the statement, but they are watching him closely now.)
That is all we need, a Marjorie Taylor Greene type, when we have been doing so well.

"The prime minister reinforced the importance of public confidence in the government’s vaccine strategy.
I agreed to support the government’s vaccine rollout which has been endorsed by the medical experts.
I have always sought to support the success of our nation’s public health response during the pandemic.
I believe the spread of misinformation can damage the success of our public health response during the pandemic."

Labor pursues Craig Kelly over conspiracy theories in fiery question time – Australian politics live
 
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I believe that the vaccines should be given to patients at their physician offices (as well as other venues)---

Yes! My dad got his through his Dr's office.

My dad's experience is the ideal perfect experience.

I was at his house and answered his phone for him and it was his family Dr's office calling to schedule him a Covid shot, to actually schedule it right then.

No pussyfooting around, no convoluted registration, simply an appointment.

Check this out, they called him on Friday and his appointment was for the following Wednesday morning. No waiting or being up in the air about it!

When he went into the office hardly anyone was in the waiting room so he didn't have to wait there either. They gave him papers to read and maybe something to fill out or sign and then he was quickly taken back and that was it!

He then had to sit 15 minutes in the waiting room to make sure he didn't have any reaction. They also scheduled him for his 2nd shot which he is getting this month.

His only symptom was waking up the next morning with a sore arm. He put pain reliever cream on his arm and later the pain completely went away for good.

I am going to find out how he does with his 2nd dose this month. They say when it comes to side effects they are more noticeable after the 2nd dose.

Oh, and the shots are free. The Cares Act picks up any cost.
 
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Literally everyone I know, who caught Covid, has a child in the "chain". Whether it was a grandchild, or caught it from a relative who has a child.

Exactly! Unfortunately, there is no way to safely run school in most of the world right now, especially not in North America. Even if kids follow guidelines the best they can (mostly re: masks), it is impossible for them to always stay socially distanced. Not to mention the sheer number of schools without proper soap or hot water, even in upscale neighborhoods. Heck, I went to high school in a moderately affluent area (million dollar waterfront properties, yachts on the water, country clubs etc.) and most of the bathrooms in my school were out of soap half the time and we'd have to go home early because the water stopped working! I can't even imagine that in a pandemic!

Plus, I forgot to mention the teachers and other school staff who have died and will die at this rate. And them inadvertently spreading it to others who may die. Disastrous all around.
 
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This new UK strain is causing us problems.

First we had the quarantine guard in Perth, Western Australia, who caught it.
Now we have a quarantine guard in Melbourne, Victoria, who has caught it.

A woman in quarantine also caught it while in quarantine in Melbourne. A family of 5 arrived with the UK variant, and the woman remembers opening her hotel door (probably to pick up her meal) at the same time as they opened their hotel door. The woman now has the exact same genomic variant as the family have.

The Premier of NSW (who take the majority of incoming returned travellers) wants all quarantine workers vaccinated first. I totally understand her reasoning. Cover the people who work our weakest point.

Victorian authorities say a hotel quarantine worker has tested positive for COVID-19

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...-expected-to-come-to-nsw-20210203-p56z98.html
 
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