Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #92

[acutename]

Ummmm.....Am I mistaken, or is this implying that the vaccine's effectiveness may wear off in as little as 3 months?

recent articles say that Rita Wilson's natural antibodies lasted about 11 months:


Rita Wilson No Longer Has COVID-19 Antibodies 11 Months ...
www.prevention.com › health › tom-hanks-rita-wilson-...
Feb 2, 2021 — After falling ill with COVID-19 in March, Rita Wilson no longer has coronavirus antibodies, but did not comment on the status of her husband ...

They keep telling us that the vaccines give a more robust immune response.... I have asked if they give you monoclonal antibodies, does your own body mount an immune response...

 

[onceuponadecember]

I'm about to hit the hay, I'll be getting my shot around 8:30 AM y'all. I'll keep you guys updated.

 

[nightowl1975]

German Care Home Residents Test Positive AFTER Getting 2nd Jab

This is disturbing.

It’s not particularly shocking or surprising given the timeline.

The article says they received their second dose no later than January 25th and tested positive 8 days later on February 2nd. It takes about two weeks AFTER the second dose for maximum protection. Given that the average time from becoming infected to testing positive is approximately 5 days, they were most likely exposed/infected immediately after receiving the second dose. It had not had nearly enough time in their system to protect everyone.

 

[nightowl1975]

Ummmm.....Am I mistaken, or is this implying that the vaccine's effectiveness may wear off in as little as 3 months?

IMO, this is the CDC being extremely cautious because we simply don’t know for sure at this point how long the vaccine will offer protection. Currently, anyone who has tested positive and completes their quarantine period is not considered “exposed” and does not have to automatically quarantine again for exposure in the 90 days following their positive test. This updated guidance for those who are fully vaccinated mimics the current guidelines for the 90 day period. I expect we will see updated guidelines based on data currently being collected from some of those being vaccinated currently. It’s impossible to know in general how long immunity will last among millions of people (whether natural or vaccine induced) without studying it over time. I suspect we will see a certain percentage remains immune for a very long period of time while others are not as fortunate. But all of this is purely my opinion based on what I’ve seen personally and read.

 

[dmac55]

"We removed this account for repeatedly sharing debunked claims about the coronavirus or vaccines," a spokesperson for Facebook, which owns Instagram, said in a statement.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has been banned from Instagram.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has been banned from Instagram - CNN

 

[GRT]

Peter Daszak, a member of the WHO team, waded directly into the murky geopolitics that covers the pandemic origin story.

US President Joe Biden “has to look tough on China”, he said in a tweet, adding: “Please don’t rely too much on US intel: increasingly disengaged under Trump & frankly wrong on many aspects.”

In turn, China emphasised on Wednesday the Wuhan probe is just “one part” of an investigation into the origins of the coronavirus.
“We hope that the US, like China, will adopt an open and transparent attitude and invite WHO experts to carry out research and studies in the US,” said foreign ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin.

Despite failing to find the origins of the virus a year after the pandemic began, the team of experts in China did agree it likely jumped from bats to an unknown animal species before transmitting to humans.

‘Frankly wrong’: WHO official derides US intelligence on COVID

I have very little confidence in anything China does or says. While the WHO team did not find that the virus leaked from a lab, neither did they find the animal host they were looking for. China's lack of transparency and its decision to keep investigators out for an entire year needs to be looked at closely.

The US may well be wrong in its assessment, but China bears a great amount of responsibility for its early actions that put the virus out there to begin with. Plus, they lied about human-to-human transmission until the damage was done and the genie was out of the bottle.

Other nations--including the US--made some big mistakes in underestimating the virus but had China been honest from the get-go, perhaps it never would have escaped their borders.

I don't think the world should give China a pass on this.

 

[weepingangel]

Government investigating massive counterfeit N95 mask scam
more at link

Federal authorities are investigating a massive counterfeit N95 mask operation in which fake 3M masks were sold in at least five states to hospitals, medical facilities and government agencies.


The foreign-made knockoffs are becoming increasingly difficult to spot and could put health care workers at grave risk for the coronavirus.

These masks are giving first responders "a false sense of security," said Steve Francis, assistant director for global trade investigations with the Homeland Security Department's principal investigative arm. He added, "We've seen a lot of fraud and other illegal activity."

Officials could not name the states or the company involved because of the active investigation.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Most may know this, but I don’t think I’ve posted here that my Covid progressed to the point that I landed in the hospital last Thursday with Covid pneumonia (as opposed to Covid without respiratory symptoms) and low O2. That was my “golden ticket” to get a hospital bed. Otherwise they send you home to be miserable since there’s nothing they can do.

I had hoped the monoclonal antibody treatment would help keep me out of the hospital, as that’s the goal, but I think it at least kept my symptoms from getting a lot worse. I hadn’t eaten anything but applesauce for a week and wanted to sleep all the time, my O2 dipped to 88-89%, so my husband called 911 and sent me off to ER. The small 49 bed local hospital in our town handles the regular Covid cases in a wing with about 10 beds, and the ICU patients go to the larger 375 bed hospital 12 miles away.

I had “presidential treatment.” Antiviral Remdesevir daily IV for five days, steroid dexamethosone, blood thinner to prevent clots, inhaled treatments twice daily by a respiratory therapist and a PT. I was on O2, reduced from 3L to 1.5L. Most of my nurses were “travelers” (Chicago, Utah, Michigan, Louisiana) and were wonderful. Interestingly, my respiratory therapist told me that 95% of her patients have no idea where they got Covid. If only half are truthful, that’s still scary! So please be careful!!

I came home today, without needing home O2, thankfully. The doctor put me on a 1/2 dose of a blood thinner (not Coumadin) for 7 days to prevent the little clots that are common with Covid. He said my cough and exhaustion could last for weeks. My husband is still exhausted and coughing but his O2 is good, so we will recuperate together.

I’m very grateful for the amazing care I received in our rural county in southern Oregon, and that things didn’t go downhill. I had been afraid since last March that if I got Covid it would kill me because of mild asthma, controlled high blood pressure, overweight and age (75), but I’m still here! I can’t emphasize enough the need to increase precautions, especially with the U.K. mutation spreading rapidly. Don’t get casual! Hugs to all!

I so relate your profile picture with your current situation..... I just want to wish you to be dancing on the ocean edge again!! We were all so worried..... but you really do sound as if you are getting better with each day. Rest, recoup and realize we are all rooting for your successful recovery.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

In all honesty, my irrational fear of needles started when my mom died in a car accident in 2000: I was getting a flu shot when she died and it was ever so painful (emotionally and physically too!).

Life does bring these physical and emotional connections. Human nature.
But I have to concur with an earlier post.... I never even felt the needle, and barely had any soreness at the needle site in the days that followed. But do make sure to prepare yourself for the second dose... there are many immune system responses after the second dose, but we have enough affirmation that that is a "good thing" showing the immune system is doing its job.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

It’s not particularly shocking or surprising given the timeline.

The article says they received their second dose no later than January 25th and tested positive 8 days later on February 2nd. It takes about two weeks AFTER the second dose for maximum protection. Given that the average time from becoming infected to testing positive is approximately 5 days, they were most likely exposed/infected immediately after receiving the second dose. It had not had nearly enough time in their system to protect everyone.

And they had very minor symptoms.

 

[ilovewings]

Shocking indeed!

It is concerning but the good news is that the ones that tested positive were asymptomatic or had mild symptoms. There certainly is a lot to consider here.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Victorian health authorities believe the use of a nebuliser by a COVID-infected guest may be behind the spread of the virus at the Holiday Inn quarantine hotel where two workers and another returned traveller were infected.

Premier Daniel Andrews said the nebuliser was used by a guest with a pre-existing health condition, who was taken to intensive care with the virus on Tuesday and who is now fighting for their life.

“We believe that the transmission of the UK strain occurred prior to them entering Victoria,” he said.

Returned travellers have been required to declare any medical devices upon their arrival, but quarantine boss Emma Cassar said the man’s nebuliser seems to have inadvertently slipped through.

“I think in this instance the individual didn’t recognise his nebuliser ... as a medical device,” she said.

Professor Sutton said a nebuliser could create tiny particles of coronavirus that could spread when a hotel room’s door was opened.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/...r-quarantine-hotel-cases-20210210-p5712v.html

It just astounds me to follow the amount of research and due diligence you are doing in Australia. The mention of the nebulizer discovered as spread of the disease seems to be such an enormous issue, really. Just think of how many nebulizers are "out there". Sleep apnea alone accounts for so so many.

And the wastewater??? I hope you will continue to update us on this, since the ramifications could be so intense.

After a solid year of no research or effective tracking and tracing, I do hope, under the Biden administration, we will catch up to some degree before we see what going to happen with these ever-changing variants.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Dr. Campbell update yesterday. First part discusses Brazil, and how they had such a high rate of infections previously, but now a surprisingly high resurgence even with high seroprevelance. He covers 4 reasons why happening, and what it means for the future potentially.

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I know so many of us follow some of these fab doctors, like Dr. Campbell, and Dr. Seheult .... but I strongly encourage watching this video from yesterday, if you have not.

There are new complexities of the variants that we all should try to grasp. For the most part, Dr. Campbell is confident that the vaccines can be tweaked to handle to variants, but he also hints at "race against time" here and now.

As always, thanks for posting Dixiegirl....

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Feb 11th

USA deaths - 3,364

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[mickey2942]

Irrelevant subject, but one thing that's going to change in this pandemic is live theatre for sure.

I am really wondering about Las Vegas. With the reliance on large trade shows, conventions. Air travel, and people who are willing to spend hours gambling.

Definitely, the buffet plans are gone. Showrooms for concerts have close seating...I don't know. Even with a vaccine, will people be flocking back to Vegas?

MGM Resorts reports $495 million operating loss in Q3

 

[onceuponadecember]

Hey y’all, just got my first dose of the Pfizer Vaccine about 30 minutes ago. I’ll be back on WS about 5:15, my students have online learning today so I need to grade stuff, etc. So far I feel just fine.

 

[Tadpole12]

Dr. Campbell update yesterday. First part discusses Brazil, and how they had such a high rate of infections previously, but now a surprisingly high resurgence even with high seroprevelance. He covers 4 reasons why happening, and what it means for the future potentially.

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Can tweak vaccinations for new variants,
Long term ... "in a few seasons we can still eradicate this virus but it could well take longer"

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Can tweak vaccinations for new variants,
Long term ... in a few seasons we can eradicate this virus

Or endemic, like flu due to such?

I posted this on another thread, moving here from this am...

Live: Sen Schumer, Warnock and Ossoff hold press conference

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[Tadpole12]

Or endemic, like flu due to such?

Possibly.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Hey y’all, just got my first dose of the Pfizer Vaccine about 30 minutes ago. I’ll be back on WS about 5:15, my students have online learning today so I need to grade stuff, etc. So far I feel just fine.

If you dont mind me saying, well done!! V pleased for you