Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #93

[Cool Cats]

I like MAPS
Which states have dropped mask mandates and why

Does anyone know what the difference is between the solid blue and the purple?

Dropped Mask Mandate (solid blue) VS No Masks Required State Wide (purple)

I like MAPS better when I understand them.

Thanks

 

[24Roses]

Iowa numbers and news for Thurs. March 4 and Fri. March 5:
Mar. 4: Iowa reports 35 additional COVID-19 deaths, over 9,000 more vaccine completions
568 new confirmed cases, 836 more recovering, and 35 more were reported to have passed
Iowa is expanding vaccination eligibility to those 64 years or younger with medical conditions
Over 100 Junior High students in Coralville quarantined for COVID-19
Mar. 5: Iowa approaches 210,000 people fully vaccinated against COVID-19
507 new confirmed cases, 430 more recovering, and 13 more were reported to have passed
Iowa governor extending COVID-19 public health proclamation
VACCINE: Counties not prepared to move forward in distribution following eligibility expansion
UNI vs Drake Men's MVC Tournament game canceled due to positive COVID-19 test, Drake advances

 

[LadyL]

Four sisters in their 80s and 90s reunited to get their Covid-19 vaccines together - CNN

 

[Gibbo214]

As I read the list of 32 Oregon residents whose deaths were recorded yesterday and reported today, I was struck by the fact that over half (19) died at home. Some had been ill for weeks since testing positive. Did they ever go to ER as I did a week after testing positive, or did they just tough it out at home until it was too late? Did they have a pulse oximeter? Were they admitted to the hospital as I was for six days and then sent home, only to suddenly worsen and die? Were they not admitted to the hospital because they didn’t have low O2 and Covid pneumonia? Covid can affect other organs, but at the hospital where I was admitted, only pneumonia/low O2 wins you a hospital bed in the 10 bed Covid unit. I feel so sad for all who died, but especially for those who died at home.

Updated: Oregon reports 392 new confirmed and presumptive COVID-19 cases, 32 new deaths

Or were they frightened of hospital bills?

 

[LadyL]

Or were they frightened of hospital bills?

so sad

 

[Lilibet]

Or were they frightened of hospital bills?

Yes, that thought occurred to me, but so many would have been on Medicare, so it seemed strange. Of course, if they didn’t have supplemental insurance or if their copay was high, that certainly could have been a factor. The 20% that Medicare doesn’t pay could be pretty astronomical. We are fully covered between Medicare and Supplement so I will be shocked to see what my six days in the hospital with Covid would have cost.

so sad

If insurance was the issue it certainly is sad! Or actually, even sadder would be if they had decent insurance and just toughed it out at home until it was too late. On the day my hero husband called 911 and sent me off to ER, I’m not sure I would have actually told him that I needed to go to the hospital, even though I knew I did. I was lucid and could talk, but I’m not sure I would have thought to tell him. But when he said I needed to go, I immediately agreed.

 

[Lilibet]

I like MAPS
Which states have dropped mask mandates and why

View attachment 287070

Does anyone know what the difference is between the solid blue and the purple?

Dropped Mask Mandate (solid blue) VS No Masks Required State Wide (purple)

I like MAPS better when I understand them.

Thanks

If you can expand the photo, there’s a key right above the map. It’s easier to read in the link. Solid blue= dropped the mask mandate. Purple=no masks required. Striped blue=about to drop the mask mandate.
Orange=Masks required. I think a few more states not shown will be dropping the mask mandate, like West Virginia IIRC.

ETA: Oops, poor reading comprehension. I think you’re asking the same question as @RANCH that I’m trying to answer below.

 

[Cool Cats]

If you can expand the photo, there’s a key right above the map. It’s easier to read in the link. Solid blue= dropped the mask mandate. Purple=no masks required. Striped blue=about to drop the mask mandate.
Orange=Masks required. I think a few more states not shown will be dropping the mask mandate, like West Virginia IIRC.

I saw this but I don't understand the difference between States that dropped the mask mandate and States that are no mask required Statewide.

Sounds like the same thing.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I like MAPS
Which states have dropped mask mandates and why

View attachment 287070

Does anyone know what the difference is between the solid blue and the purple?

Dropped Mask Mandate (solid blue) VS No Masks Required State Wide (purple)

I like MAPS better when I understand them.

Thanks

I'm not sure what the difference is between "Dropped Mask Mandate" and "No Mask Required".

Does it mean a state that had a mandate previously but doesn't now has "dropped" it? And a state that never had a mask mandate is in the "No Masks Required" category?

It's a bit confusing. JMO

 

[Lilibet]

I'm not sure what the difference is between "Dropped Mask Mandate" and "No Mask Required".

Does it mean a state that had a mandate previously but doesn't now has "dropped" it? And a state that never had a mask mandate is in the "No Masks Required" category?

It's a bit confusing. JMO

Yes, that’s how I read it. And it seems to be what the article says:

Which states have dropped mask mandates and why
Five states -- Texas, Mississippi, Iowa, Montana and North Dakota -- have ended, or soon will end, statewide mask mandates, despite the looming threat of COVID-19 and highly transmissible variants.

They're joining 11 other states -- Alaska, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, and Tennessee -- that never required face coverings statewide.

Alabama will lift its mandate in about a month, Gov. Kay Ivey announced Thursday. She said that beginning on April 9, wearing masks will be "a matter of personal responsibility and not a government mandate."

 

[Lilibet]

I saw this but I don't understand the difference between States that dropped the mask mandate and States that are no mask required Statewide.

Sounds like the same thing.

See answer to @RANCH just above. I didn’t read your question correctly. Sorry.

 

[Cool Cats]

I'm not sure what the difference is between "Dropped Mask Mandate" and "No Mask Required".

Does it mean a state that had a mandate previously but doesn't now has "dropped" it? And a state that never had a mask mandate is in the "No Masks Required" category?

It's a bit confusing. JMO

Except for a few, I haven't been able to find the States that never had mask mandates. If these States....

Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Tennessee
Missouri
Oklahoma
North Dakota
South Dakota
Idaho
Arizona
Alaska

....have never had mask mandates and are the only ones who never have - then you are definitely correct.

Frustrating - I can't find most of the States that have never had a mask mandate.

 

[Lilibet]

Other than a few, I haven't been able to find the States that never had mask mandates. If these
States....

Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Tennessee
Missouri
Oklahoma
North Dakota
South Dakota
Idaho
Arizona
Alaska

....have never had mask mandates and are the only ones who never have - then you are definitely correct.

Frustrating - I can't find which States have never had a mask mandate.

Here is the list from your original link:

They're joining 11 other states -- Alaska, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, and Tennessee -- that never required face coverings statewide.

Trade your North Dakota for Nebraska.

 

[Cool Cats]

Here is the list from your original link:



Trade your North Dakota for Nebraska.

So the answer was in my link all along....Shameful...!

 

[Cool Cats]

Here is the list from your original link:

Trade your North Dakota for Nebraska.

So the answer was in my link all along...Shameful...

Ranch was correct.

... Actually sorta funny!

 

[nightowl1975]

Except for a few, I haven't been able to find the States that never had mask mandates. If these States....

Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Tennessee
Missouri
Oklahoma
North Dakota
South Dakota
Idaho
Arizona
Alaska

....have never had mask mandates and are the only ones who never have - then you are definitely correct.

Frustrating - I can't find most of the States that have never had a mask mandate.

It’ll be interesting to see the data analysis of death rates comparing states who had lengthy mask mandates vs those who did not.

 

[Gibbo214]

It’ll be interesting to see the data analysis of death rates comparing states who had lengthy mask mandates vs those who did not.

Mask mandates are not useful if people do not follow them and the other rules of social distancing and if the states do not do contract tracing. All things which the places who have handled the virus well, have done.

 

[Cool Cats]

It’ll be interesting to see the data analysis of death rates comparing states who had lengthy mask mandates vs those who did not.

We should give this job to @10ofRods .... LOL ... !

 

[nightowl1975]

Mask mandates are not useful if people do not follow them and the other rules of social distancing and if the states do not do contract tracing. All things which the places who have handled the virus well, have done.

Would you say mask mandates are pointless if what you say is true? Do you think masks are useless without contact tracing? It seems like I remember reading that contact tracing is fairly pointless once numbers reach a certain level, but I may not be remembering correctly. It seems to make sense to me if true though. I do think masks help, even without good or adequate or any at all contact tracing. I also believe they help even if not every single soul cooperates or uses them correctly. Sure, they would help even more if used perfectly by every single person every single time. I don’t doubt that.


But I do wonder if state-wide mask mandates in everyday life helped keep death rates lower, even without all variables being perfect. I suspect they do/did, but I would love to see some actual data analysis on the subject.

 

[Gibbo214]

Would you say mask mandates are pointless if what you say is true? Do you think masks are useless without contact tracing? It seems like I remember reading that contact tracing is fairly pointless once numbers reach a certain level, but I may not be remembering correctly. It seems to make sense to me if true though. I do think masks help, even without good or adequate or any at all contact tracing. I also believe they help even if not every single soul cooperates or uses them correctly. Sure, they would help even more if used perfectly by every single person every single time. I don’t doubt that.


But I do wonder if state-wide mask mandates in everyday life helped keep death rates lower, even without all variables being perfect. I suspect they do/did, but I would love to see some actual data analysis on the subject.

Actually social distancing, testing and contact tracing work better than wholesale mask mandates in my opinion, but the society has to work together for that to happen. And yes, I suspect you are correct that when numbers reach a certain level it is not effective, but that is the point of it, to not let it get out of hand.