Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #94

[LadyL]

CDC advisers recommend resuming use of Johnson & Johnson's coronavirus vaccine - CNN

 

[LadyL]

So Covid has come calling to our family again. My son Sam has Covid for the second time. He lives in New York. He was positive in March 2020 early on in the pandemic. He had antibodies when he tested 3 months later but at the 7 month point, he had no detectable antibodies via his blood work. He got his first Pfizer shot 10 days ago. Now this morning he called me. He traveled to LA on business. Felt fine. The next morning he was routine tested at the 'job site'. His test was positive. He went back to his hotel of course and awaited the PCR which was also positive. He now feels very crummy and lost his sense of taste and smell, cough, fever, etc. He will be isolated in the hotel and will travel back to NY following CDC guidelines.

Of note, he is 29. He has now had confirmed Covid twice, antibodies that waned away and one Pfizer shot in. Also food for thought for anyone that travels. My son sat in first class, right next to another person for 5 hours. He took an Uber, stopped for coffee in the airport and ate lunch inside a restaurant when he landed. His positive test was less than 12 hours later so he was most likely contagious through it all.

He has traveled throughout this pandemic for work so I am not shocked he has Covid again. I worry and feel so bad for him. And he was SO proud of his vaccine. He got it the minute he was eligible. Too bad work could not wait until after #2.

wow I hope your son recovers quickly
such a crap deal for him to get it twice

 

[weepingangel]

Oh no! That’s crazy. Hope he feels better soon.

So Covid has come calling to our family again. My son Sam has Covid for the second time. He lives in New York. He was positive in March 2020 early on in the pandemic. He had antibodies when he tested 3 months later but at the 7 month point, he had no detectable antibodies via his blood work. He got his first Pfizer shot 10 days ago. Now this morning he called me. He traveled to LA on business. Felt fine. The next morning he was routine tested at the 'job site'. His test was positive. He went back to his hotel of course and awaited the PCR which was also positive. He now feels very crummy and lost his sense of taste and smell, cough, fever, etc. He will be isolated in the hotel and will travel back to NY following CDC guidelines.

Of note, he is 29. He has now had confirmed Covid twice, antibodies that waned away and one Pfizer shot in. Also food for thought for anyone that travels. My son sat in first class, right next to another person for 5 hours. He took an Uber, stopped for coffee in the airport and ate lunch inside a restaurant when he landed. His positive test was less than 12 hours later so he was most likely contagious through it all.

He has traveled throughout this pandemic for work so I am not shocked he has Covid again. I worry and feel so bad for him. And he was SO proud of his vaccine. He got it the minute he was eligible. Too bad work could not wait until after #2.

 

[LadyL]

North Dakota offers free Covid-19 vaccinations for Canadian truckers

 

[anneg]

So Covid has come calling to our family again. My son Sam has Covid for the second time. He lives in New York. He was positive in March 2020 early on in the pandemic. He had antibodies when he tested 3 months later but at the 7 month point, he had no detectable antibodies via his blood work. He got his first Pfizer shot 10 days ago. Now this morning he called me. He traveled to LA on business. Felt fine. The next morning he was routine tested at the 'job site'. His test was positive. He went back to his hotel of course and awaited the PCR which was also positive. He now feels very crummy and lost his sense of taste and smell, cough, fever, etc. He will be isolated in the hotel and will travel back to NY following CDC guidelines.

Of note, he is 29. He has now had confirmed Covid twice, antibodies that waned away and one Pfizer shot in. Also food for thought for anyone that travels. My son sat in first class, right next to another person for 5 hours. He took an Uber, stopped for coffee in the airport and ate lunch inside a restaurant when he landed. His positive test was less than 12 hours later so he was most likely contagious through it all.

He has traveled throughout this pandemic for work so I am not shocked he has Covid again. I worry and feel so bad for him. And he was SO proud of his vaccine. He got it the minute he was eligible. Too bad work could not wait until after #2.

I'm so sorry to hear this. His symptoms sound pretty miserable, and it's never fun to be sick when away from home. I hope his first Pfizer shot will help to keep this illness from worsening and he will improve quickly.

 

[LadyL]

Ontario, Canada:

In a press conference on April 22, Dr. Huyer said that more people have died at home before being able to seek medical care for COVID-19 during the third wave.

'Significant number' of young people are dying at home with COVID-19: Ontario coroner

 

[margarita25]

Osterholm Update: COVID-19
April 22, 2021
Episode 52: A Balancing Act Continued

“In this episode, Dr. Osterholm and host Chris Dall discuss global cases reaching a new record high, the latest on vaccinations and blood clots, when we might expect vaccine supply to outstrip demand, and reports of breakthrough cases in individuals who were fully vaccinated.”

This podcast is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Google Podcasts.
—-

* there is some interesting insight into this “concept” of herd immunity in this broadcast, imo

 

[nhmemorymaker]

So Covid has come calling to our family again. My son Sam has Covid for the second time. He lives in New York. He was positive in March 2020 early on in the pandemic. He had antibodies when he tested 3 months later but at the 7 month point, he had no detectable antibodies via his blood work. He got his first Pfizer shot 10 days ago. Now this morning he called me. He traveled to LA on business. Felt fine. The next morning he was routine tested at the 'job site'. His test was positive. He went back to his hotel of course and awaited the PCR which was also positive. He now feels very crummy and lost his sense of taste and smell, cough, fever, etc. He will be isolated in the hotel and will travel back to NY following CDC guidelines.

Of note, he is 29. He has now had confirmed Covid twice, antibodies that waned away and one Pfizer shot in. Also food for thought for anyone that travels. My son sat in first class, right next to another person for 5 hours. He took an Uber, stopped for coffee in the airport and ate lunch inside a restaurant when he landed. His positive test was less than 12 hours later so he was most likely contagious through it all.

He has traveled throughout this pandemic for work so I am not shocked he has Covid again. I worry and feel so bad for him. And he was SO proud of his vaccine. He got it the minute he was eligible. Too bad work could not wait until after #2.

This is such a lesson for all of us........
It does make one wonder just how long any of these vaccines are going to work for us....
especially those who have had antibodies...
I feel so badly for him, and for you too.... the worries you hold are just such a heavy burdon.......

 

[Inthedetails]

So Covid has come calling to our family again. My son Sam has Covid for the second time. He lives in New York. He was positive in March 2020 early on in the pandemic. He had antibodies when he tested 3 months later but at the 7 month point, he had no detectable antibodies via his blood work. He got his first Pfizer shot 10 days ago. Now this morning he called me. He traveled to LA on business. Felt fine. The next morning he was routine tested at the 'job site'. His test was positive. He went back to his hotel of course and awaited the PCR which was also positive. He now feels very crummy and lost his sense of taste and smell, cough, fever, etc. He will be isolated in the hotel and will travel back to NY following CDC guidelines.

Of note, he is 29. He has now had confirmed Covid twice, antibodies that waned away and one Pfizer shot in. Also food for thought for anyone that travels. My son sat in first class, right next to another person for 5 hours. He took an Uber, stopped for coffee in the airport and ate lunch inside a restaurant when he landed. His positive test was less than 12 hours later so he was most likely contagious through it all.

He has traveled throughout this pandemic for work so I am not shocked he has Covid again. I worry and feel so bad for him. And he was SO proud of his vaccine. He got it the minute he was eligible. Too bad work could not wait until after #2.

Thank you for sharing that info. All the best to your son - and what a bother to be sick when away from home. I wonder if by having had the virus in the past plus one dose of the vax, he will recover easily? I do hope that is the case.

 

[Inthedetails]

This is such a lesson for all of us........
It does make one wonder just how long any of these vaccines are going to work for us....
especially those who have had antibodies...
I feel so badly for him, and for you too.... the worries you hold are just such a heavy burdon.......

Let's keep in mind that the vaccines don't prevent you from getting the virus. That's why you can still spread it even after getting the vaccine.

The vaccine is supposed to stop you from falling seriously ill and dying.

It's important to still mask up indoors, social distance, even after vaccine - you can get the virus and spread it otherwise. Eventually the virus will die out, but not if we keep spreading it.

That's my understanding of the vaccine. jmo

 

[ilovewings]

Let's keep in mind that the vaccines don't prevent you from getting the virus. That's why you can still spread it even after getting the vaccine.

The vaccine is supposed to stop you from falling seriously ill and dying.

It's important to still mask up indoors, social distance, even after vaccine - you can get the virus and spread it otherwise. Eventually the virus will die out, but not if we keep spreading it.

That's my understanding of the vaccine. jmo

It will stop spreading with Herd Immunity and there are so many people who are not getting the vaccine, I am not sure we will get to Herd Immunity. We also need to have our children vaccinated (including teens)-- it is going to be a Herculean task to get to Herd Immunity in this country)

 

[dixiegirl1035]

So Covid has come calling to our family again. My son Sam has Covid for the second time. He lives in New York. He was positive in March 2020 early on in the pandemic. He had antibodies when he tested 3 months later but at the 7 month point, he had no detectable antibodies via his blood work. He got his first Pfizer shot 10 days ago. Now this morning he called me. He traveled to LA on business. Felt fine. The next morning he was routine tested at the 'job site'. His test was positive. He went back to his hotel of course and awaited the PCR which was also positive. He now feels very crummy and lost his sense of taste and smell, cough, fever, etc. He will be isolated in the hotel and will travel back to NY following CDC guidelines.

Of note, he is 29. He has now had confirmed Covid twice, antibodies that waned away and one Pfizer shot in. Also food for thought for anyone that travels. My son sat in first class, right next to another person for 5 hours. He took an Uber, stopped for coffee in the airport and ate lunch inside a restaurant when he landed. His positive test was less than 12 hours later so he was most likely contagious through it all.

He has traveled throughout this pandemic for work so I am not shocked he has Covid again. I worry and feel so bad for him. And he was SO proud of his vaccine. He got it the minute he was eligible. Too bad work could not wait until after #2.

((Hugs))... this so much sounds like a case which is touted by Fauci and so many others as possibility and why folks need shots to protect - to bump up specifically the B cell antibodies MUCH MUCH higher than a natural infection. Hopefully the T cell memory and waning B cell antibodies protects him from getting a severe case.

In my thoughts............... best wishes.

 

[ilovewings]

Israel records ZERO daily Covid deaths for first time in ten months | Daily Mail Online

Israel has vaccinated 80% of its population and recorded zero deaths ---for the first time in ten months.

This is what you get when the population of the country cooperates and does what is right for everyone.

 

[Inthedetails]

Oh good grief.

The Flu Vanished During COVID. What Will Its Return Look Like?

"...the absence of the flu was a much needed reprieve that eased the burden on an overwhelmed health care system. But the lack of exposure to the flu could also make the population more susceptible to the virus when it returns — and experts say its return is certain."

 

[ilovewings]

Oh good grief.

The Flu Vanished During COVID. What Will Its Return Look Like?

"...the absence of the flu was a much needed reprieve that eased the burden on an overwhelmed health care system. But the lack of exposure to the flu could also make the population more susceptible to the virus when it returns — and experts say its return is certain."

It seems to me if people would use masks in the winter (even after the pandemic is gone), we could keep the flu at very low levels. Good luck with that right?

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Oh good grief.

The Flu Vanished During COVID. What Will Its Return Look Like?

"...the absence of the flu was a much needed reprieve that eased the burden on an overwhelmed health care system. But the lack of exposure to the flu could also make the population more susceptible to the virus when it returns — and experts say its return is certain."

Perhaps those that don't get vaccines? Not for those that get the vaccine? The bigger issue is which pan vaccines (against multiple strains of the flu) will not get it right as happened 6 years ago?

So many got the vaccine this year? And this was the reason as to it was the greatest numbers for such in the COVID scare?

Will be interesting to follow.

 

[Satchie]

Let's keep in mind that the vaccines don't prevent you from getting the virus. That's why you can still spread it even after getting the vaccine.

The vaccine is supposed to stop you from falling seriously ill and dying.

It's important to still mask up indoors, social distance, even after vaccine - you can get the virus and spread it otherwise. Eventually the virus will die out, but not if we keep spreading it.

That's my understanding of the vaccine. jmo

Also, the immunity provided by a vaccine is never instantaneous: get the shot and at that moment you're immune. Like turning a switch on a machine.

It takes time for the human body to develop antibodies after a shot: "it typically takes two weeks after you are fully vaccinated for the body to build protection (immunity) against the virus that causes COVID-19."
Understanding How COVID-19 Vaccines Work

 

[anneg]

Let's keep in mind that the vaccines don't prevent you from getting the virus. That's why you can still spread it even after getting the vaccine.

The vaccine is supposed to stop you from falling seriously ill and dying.

It's important to still mask up indoors, social distance, even after vaccine - you can get the virus and spread it otherwise. Eventually the virus will die out, but not if we keep spreading it.

That's my understanding of the vaccine. jmo

Also, the immunity provided by a vaccine is never instantaneous: get the shot and at that moment you're immune. Like turning a switch on a machine.

It takes time for the human body to develop antibodies after a shot: "it typically takes two weeks after you are fully vaccinated for the body to build protection (immunity) against the virus that causes COVID-19."
Understanding How COVID-19 Vaccines Work

Postvaccination breakthroughs Covid cases are an interesting topic. Here is a CDC link about a study in Chicago nursing homes (red font below by me):
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7017e1-H.pdf

Early studies suggest that COVID-19 vaccines protect against severe illness (1); however, postvaccination SARS-CoV-2 infections (i.e., breakthrough infections) can occur because COVID-19 vaccines do not offer 100% protection (2,3). Data evaluating the occurrence of breakthrough infections and impact of vaccination in decreasing transmission in congregate settings are limited. Skilled nursing facility (SNF) residents and staff members have been disproportionately affected by SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19 (4,5), and were prioritized for COVID-19 vaccination (6,7). Starting December 28, 2020, all 78 Chicago-based SNFs began COVID-19 vaccination clinics over several weeks through the federal Pharmacy Partnership for Long-Term Care Program (PPP).† In February 2021, through routine screening, the Chicago Department of Public Health (CDPH) identified a SARS-CoV-2 infection in a SNF resident >14 days after receipt of the second dose of a two-dose COVID-19 vac- cination series. SARS-CoV-2 cases, vaccination status, and possible vaccine breakthrough infections were identified by matching facility reports with state case and vaccination reg- istries. Among 627 persons with SARS-CoV-2 infection across 75 SNFs since vaccination clinics began, 22 SARS-CoV-2 infections were identified among 12 residents and 10 staff members across 15 facilities ≥14 days after receiving their second vaccine dose (i.e., breakthrough infections in fully vaccinated persons). Nearly two thirds (14 of 22; 64%) of persons with breakthrough infections were asymptomatic; two residents were hospitalized because of COVID-19, and one died. No facility-associated secondary transmission occurred. Although few SARS-CoV-2 infections in fully vaccinated persons were observed, these cases demonstrate the need for SNFs to follow recommended routine infection prevention and control practices and promote high vaccination coverage among SNF residents and staff members.

Summary

What is already known about this topic?

Residents and staff members of skilled nursing facilities (SNFs) are recommended to receive COVID-19 vaccine as a priority group.

What is added by this report?

Twenty-two possible breakthrough SARS-CoV-2 infections occurred among fully vaccinated persons ≥14 days after their second dose of COVID-19 vaccine. Two thirds of persons were asymptomatic. A minority of persons with breakthrough infection experienced mild to moderate COVID-19–like symptoms; two COVID-19–related hospitalizations and one death occurred. No facility-associated secondary transmission was identified.

What are the implications for public health practice?

SNFs should prioritize vaccination and follow recommended COVID-19 infection prevention and control practices, including following work restrictions, isolation, quarantine, testing of residents and staff members, and use of personal protective equipment.

 

[LadyL]

To date, Anand said Canada has already procured 2.7 billion items of PPE, 1.5 billion of which have already been delivered.

“Every hospital is running out (of oxygen). We are running out,” Dr. Sudhanshu Bankata, executive director of Batra Hospital, a leading hospital in India's capital city, told New Delhi Television channel.

When asked what happens when a hospital issues an SOS call, he replied: "Nothing. It's over. It's over."

The situation is so dire, a high court in Delhi even warned it would “hang” anyone who tries to obstruct the delivery of emergency oxygen supplies.

As COVID-19 cases explode in India, Canada ready to help with medical supplies: Anand

 

[ilovewings]

Today hubby and I were shopping at Costco today-- we were in line to check out- Mom and her children were in front of us- She was masked but her three children were not: it really made me angry, but of course I didn't say anything. Her kids were acting like little brats. They apparently had started out with masks, but the masks migrated so they weren't on their faces. I told my husband to just stand as far away from them as possible. It is so unusual to see anybody without a mask where I live at any store at all. Kids these days are asymptomatic carriers of the virus.