Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #95

[mickey2942]

That’s interesting about the person with the blood clotting disorder.

Yes, and he is concerned that people will be offended by his ongoing mask wearing. He is also diabetic.

In the beginning of this whole mess, last March, we were told at work that NO ONE could wear a mask. Then, it changed, you can wear a mask if you want, to, you MUST WEAR A MASK!

Now? Who knows what will happen next week...

 

[Satchie]

In the beginning of this whole mess, last March, we were told at work that NO ONE could wear a mask. Then, it changed, you can wear a mask if you want, to, you MUST WEAR A MASK!

Now? Who knows what will happen next week...

I don't think anybody said you must wear a mask forever.

 

[mickey2942]

I don't think anybody said you must wear a mask forever.

Right. But now? Just my opinion, but the CDC may not have thought out the entire social ramifications of the new pronouncement. Seems a bit rushed to me, especially as children still need to wear masks. They are not vaccinated.

 

[SouthAussie]

Has anyone else had the thought that the mask mandate lifting - perhaps has to do with an attempt to get the hesitate to get vaccinated? The present advice is, FOR THOSE FULLY VACCINATED, masks no longer required.
I realize, for most, won't make a difference. Those that are adamant against the vaccine won't be persuaded. But some for some others, seeing so many out without a mask may be the motivation they need to get vaccinated.
We, here on WS, took this threat seriously weeks and months ahead of most of the general population. When the CDC stated, no masks needed, we saw the logic as being an attempt to supply PPE to hospitals and first responders and front line workers. I personally, as many of you, still wore masks in the beginning. (as well as gloves and sanitized everything coming into our homes, etc) despite the "advice".
Now, I personally see the lifting of the mask mandate as a possible attempt to get the unvaccinated motivated to get those vaccines.
Often, I'm wrong, I easily could be now.
Being fully vaccinated, I feel safer. However, I still have a stubborn 86 yr old mother, a rebellious daughter and a young asthmatic grandson that I worry about. I will continue to mask up anytime I'm around anyone else that I'm not certain has been vaccinated. Being careful a little longer isn't going to hurt me, and could help save the life of someone I love.

Yes, I agree. "We're opening up, off come the masks, get vaccinated or take your chances". Also ... "look at me, no mask AND I am not going to get desperately sick if I catch the virus".

I was speaking with a hesitant NY friend yesterday, it is starting to twig to him that he is not going to get admittance to various places without having had a vaccine.

As various doors close to the unvaccinated, they will encourage themselves to get the vaccine.
No need to harp on to anyone - if they have their mind made up, they won't listen - just put in these measures and they will convince themselves, if it personally affects them.

 

[musicaljoke]

See? It is the "Wild West" now. Several people in our office have not been vaccinated, due to health issues. One person has a blood clotting disorder, and has been told by their doctor, emphatically, NOT to have a vaccine.

The CDC says, "No mask" if you are vaccinated. But, a lot of businesses have not caught up with this. Even federal offices still have a mask requirement, when another branch, the CDC, has gone public saying masks are no longer needed by vaccinated people.

Who knows any more?

This will be more contentious than the "mask mandate".

Gosh, I'd want to get a second opinion on not getting a vaccine. Diabetics with clotting disorders are high on the list of those who need a vaccination in these parts. We're giving Moderna and Pfizer.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Gosh, I'd want to get a second opinion on not getting a vaccine. Diabetics with clotting disorders are high on the list of those who need a vaccination in these parts. We're giving Moderna and Pfizer.

My good friend has a clotting disorder. She was told specifically she really needed to get the vaccine, as COVID could really do her damage more than others. MOO.

 

[margarita25]

 

[JDG]

My good friend has a clotting disorder. She was told specifically she really needed to get the vaccine, as COVID could really do her damage more than others. MOO.

It might depend on the clotting disorder.

Some people clot too much, others too little.

Either way, a specialist or good GP should know how to manage it along with the vaccinations.

They also do screening at the vaccination places, if you have a blood disorder, have your shots in a hospital setting and it'll be caught at the screening.

 

[mickey2942]

Yeah, I don't know the exact diagnosis of this guy. He told me he couldn't get a vaccine due to some blood clot issue. I really wasn't that interested in the conversation. Knowing details of co-workers medical issues is really not something I ask.

But, it seems like more and more, personal health information is common knowledge.

Are you vaccinated?
Are you sick?
Are your kids sick?
What vaccine did you get?
Did you have any side effects?

On and on. Like, this is "normal" casual conversation. Complete strangers ask me my health information...it is now considered "normal" to have your temperature taken before any appointment. Not even medical! We went to a restaurant, and they wanted us to have our Temps taken, then asked if we had been vaccinated.

 

[SouthAussie]

Yeah, I don't know the exact diagnosis of this guy. He told me he couldn't get a vaccine due to some blood clot issue. I really wasn't that interested in the conversation. Knowing details of co-workers medical issues is really not something I ask.

But, it seems like more and more, personal health information is common knowledge.

Are you vaccinated?
Are you sick?
Are your kids sick?
What vaccine did you get?
Did you have any side effects?

On and on. Like, this is "normal" casual conversation. Complete strangers ask me my health information...it is now considered "normal" to have your temperature taken before any appointment. Not even medical! We went to a restaurant, and they wanted us to have our Temps taken, then asked if we had been vaccinated.

I understand what you are saying about health privacy.
I also understand that businesses want to protect their staff and customers, so ask these questions and take temps prior to entry/seating.

I don't know what the happy medium is, but I think this will continue until - one day - the pandemic is under control.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Right. But now? Just my opinion, but the CDC may not have thought out the entire social ramifications of the new pronouncement. Seems a bit rushed to me, especially as children still need to wear masks. They are not vaccinated.

Yes, I keep thinking of all the anti-maskers who are not vaccinated and indoors. And/or those who outright LIE and/or won't follow rules. Remember how the masks protects others more than the person wearing. (Unless they are wearing tightly fitted N95, which isn't happening iykwim)

So now folks are headscratching as will they want their unvaccinated child wearing indoors around potential unvaccinated spreaders who are anti mask and anti vaccine.

Understand the odds are lower, but jeez.... I've followed since the beginning and I'm confused! (Not on what was said, but the entire reasoning and background on such situation/consideration)

 

[SouthAussie]

Some Indian people are getting really desperate. They are covering themselves in cow dung, drinking cow urine (the cow is sacred) to try to prevent themselves from getting covid. Some officials are promoting the behaviour. Medical people are asking them to stop, because they are at risk of getting and spreading other diseases.

Indian politicians contribute to COVID quackery as health system collapses

 

[LadyL]

oh boy you guys

Vance was so upset, he filed a complaint in December with the College of Physicians and Surgeons of B.C., writing that he has a professional duty to report doctors who pose a danger to the public. He called for Malthouse to be stripped of his licence.

B.C. doctors urge action on colleague spreading COVID-19 misinformation

 

[LadyL]

Labour market experts warn of a looming resignation boom because employees in Canada (and the U.S.) who have been contemplating an exit have largely held off. But as workplaces shift and there’s a better sense of what the next phase of work looks like, that pent-up attrition is set to begin and build.

A workplace resignation boom may be looming. Here’s why

 

[Niner]

 

[tabitha111]

Variant update shows all Brazil strains in Montana are breakthrough cases | KECI (nbcmontana.com)

Worth noting: Montana’s latest COVID-19 variant update shows a total of 216 variant cases but no additional confirmed cases of the P.1 or B.1.617.2 variants, also known as Brazil and India variants.

New on the report is a section that shows how many of Montana’s 159 breakthrough cases are attributed to variants. Breakthrough cases are COVID-19 cases confirmed in people at least two weeks out from full vaccination. All three cases of the P.1 strain in Montana are in people who are fully vaccinated. 30 others are confirmed to be other variants, including B.1.1.7, also known as the U.K. variant.

 

[tabitha111]

Comment: "Science" still treating escape cases-vaccinated people getting infected-as exceptions. If a vaccine offers 90% protection-10% will get infected...It becomes a problem if in reality lots of vaccinated people would get infected...showing the real protection of vaccines is much less then 90%...So far against the old variant vaccines seem to be very effective...But reopenings=more spread of variants and that will test vaccine protection..

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Yes, I keep thinking of all the anti-maskers who are not vaccinated and indoors. And/or those who outright LIE and/or won't follow rules. Remember how the masks protects others more than the person wearing. (Unless they are wearing tightly fitted N95, which isn't happening iykwim)

So now folks are headscratching as will they want their unvaccinated child wearing indoors around potential unvaccinated spreaders who are anti mask and anti vaccine.

Understand the odds are lower, but jeez.... I've followed since the beginning and I'm confused! (Not on what was said, but the entire reasoning and background on such situation/consideration)

So strange, this just came across my feed on social media.

A child can get, and then pass to unvaccinated parents. This happened last year, but just one small example if antivaccers etc. are exposing themselves (not saying these folks did as was BEFORE vaccines)

While it may be RARE...

Johns Creek football player Justin Hunter's parents die of COVID | 11alive.com

He said they all tested positive a week and a half earlier, so all three of them were quarantined. Then, both his parents' symptoms got worse and they were admitted into Emory Johns Creek Hospital.


But they didn't get better. On Sunday, July 26, his father, 59-year-old Eugene Hunter died.

"The hospital called me and had to break the news," Hunter said.

He said it was hard after losing his dad to only get to talk to his mom over the phone.

"(She said) she's gonna keep fighting to get better to come back," Hunter said.

But only four days later, on July 30, the hospital called again. This time to tell Hunter his 57-year-old mother, Angie had died

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Matt Hancock, the UK’s health minister, has confirmed that almost all hospitalisations and deaths caused by the Indian variant, are unvaccinated. In addition:

In Bolton, where a number of people have ended up in hospitals with the Indian variant, the "vast majority" of those patients had been eligible for a COVID jab but had not yet had one, Mr Hancock said.

COVID-19: Indian variant can 'spread like wildfire' among those not vaccinated, Health Secretary Matt Hancock warns

 

[LadyL]

Nurses’ union condemns C.D.C.’s new mask advice for vaccinated people.