Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #96

[GRT]

Uh-oh, I wonder how many people will not abide by the new mask rule. FYI, 1902 new cases were reported in LA county on July 16.


Sheriff Villanueva won't enforce county's new mask order, claims 'not backed by science'

LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva is criticizing the county's decision to order masks to be worn indoors again, claiming the mandate is "not backed by science" and contradicts federal guidelines.
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"Forcing the vaccinated and those who already contracted COVID-19 to wear masks indoors is not backed by science and contradicts the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidelines," Villanueva said.
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The day before California's reopening, June 14, the county reported 135 new cases, while on Thursday the figure had spiked to 1,537 new cases. The rise is fueled in part by the more-contagious Delta variant, as well as continued resistance to vaccination. All of the COVID-19 patients in county-run hospitals are unvaccinated, officials say.
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I've been thinking the same thing. Now that virtually all places have lifted the mask mandates, I fear it will be hard to re-implement them.

I think the CDC acted too hastily in advising people to go maskless if they were vaccinated. Almost no one is wearing one, and I know they're not all vaccinated.

 

[SouthAussie]

I've been thinking the same thing. Now that virtually all places have lifted the mask mandates, I fear it will be hard to re-implement them.

I think the CDC acted too hastily in advising people to go maskless if they were vaccinated. Almost no one is wearing one, and I know they're not all vaccinated.

Even if they are vaccinated (and covid is still circulating in the community) ..... transmission is something that many people are not thinking about.


"The reality is once you're vaccinated, it prevents you from getting severely ill," Cardillo said. " ... It doesn't really help with transmission. It decreases the viral load in your system. But the real way to decrease transmission is to wear a mask."

Cardillo, who has been vaccinated, wears a mask in public settings so that he doesn't transmit the virus to those around him who have not been vaccinated, such as his young children or his patients.

(from pocketaccent's post #563)

 

[GRT]

Singapore and the UK are both planning to 'live with Covid.' They are worlds apart on how to do that

While the UK has one of the highest numbers of Covid-19 related deaths in the world -- nearly 129,000 since the pandemic started -- only 36 people have died of Covid-19 in Singapore.

Around 40% of the Singaporean population have received their second dose of the vaccine .... the country is on track to vaccinate three quarters of its entire population by August 9. Unlike the UK, adolescents over the age of 12 are included in the vaccination figures.

Singapore is currently averaging 26 new Covid-19 cases a day; no firm date has yet been set for its reopening.

Back in England many are watching Boris Johnson's reopening gamble with alarm.
More than 100 doctors and scientists last week warned that not only was the move premature, but that "unmitigated transmission will disproportionately affect unvaccinated children and young people who have already suffered greatly."

... reliance on personal responsibility has raised eyebrows. "It is very easy to [shift] that onus on personal responsibility and push the blame on the population" if deaths rise.

Singapore has done well since the beginning. I think being a small island helps, but they've also done a good job of following recommendations and rules.

I was just looking at CNN's Covid tracker, and was kind of surprised to see Peru was about the worst of all.

Tracking Covid-19’s global spread

You can adjust the columns with the little arrows at the top of each. The Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Slovenia are all much higher than I imagined when looking at the number of deaths per 100,000.

 

[Lilibet]

IMO Johnson is either naive or cynical in calling for people to take “personal responsibility” in a previously politicized pandemic. I remember when DJT tossed the PPE supply ball to the states…a convenient scapegoat. In a public health crisis it truly is the government’s responsibility to make and enforce hard decisions to keep the population safe. Are you listening CDC? Of course, what good does it do if responsible government leaders reinstitute mask (and social distancing) mandates that the sheriff won’t enforce (looking at you Los Angeles). JMO

From your link…
Singapore and the UK are both planning to 'live with Covid.' They are worlds apart on how to do that - CNN

Johnson also called for people to take personal responsibility, and recommended they wear face coverings in crowded or enclosed spaces, despite his decision to lift the mask mandate.
This reliance on personal responsibility has raised eyebrows. "It is very easy to [shift] that onus on personal responsibility and push the blame on the population" if deaths rise, Watson said.

Singapore and the UK are both planning to 'live with Covid.' They are worlds apart on how to do that

While the UK has one of the highest numbers of Covid-19 related deaths in the world -- nearly 129,000 since the pandemic started -- only 36 people have died of Covid-19 in Singapore.

Around 40% of the Singaporean population have received their second dose of the vaccine .... the country is on track to vaccinate three quarters of its entire population by August 9. Unlike the UK, adolescents over the age of 12 are included in the vaccination figures.

Singapore is currently averaging 26 new Covid-19 cases a day; no firm date has yet been set for its reopening.

Back in England many are watching Boris Johnson's reopening gamble with alarm.
More than 100 doctors and scientists last week warned that not only was the move premature, but that "unmitigated transmission will disproportionately affect unvaccinated children and young people who have already suffered greatly."

... reliance on personal responsibility has raised eyebrows. "It is very easy to [shift] that onus on personal responsibility and push the blame on the population" if deaths rise.

 

[GRT]

Even if they are vaccinated (and covid is still circulating in the community) ..... transmission is something that many people are not thinking about.


"The reality is once you're vaccinated, it prevents you from getting severely ill," Cardillo said. " ... It doesn't really help with transmission. It decreases the viral load in your system. But the real way to decrease transmission is to wear a mask."

Cardillo, who has been vaccinated, wears a mask in public settings so that he doesn't transmit the virus to those around him who have not been vaccinated, such as his young children or his patients.

(from pocketaccent's post #563)

Thanks for posting this--it seems like I don't see all the posts if I check in after a day or so. Maybe just me. LOL

I'm concerned about children going back to public school if they're not vaccinated since Delta is more likely to impact them.

School starts back up next month, they're telling us there's nothing to worry about. I'm not so sure. I drove by the city pool yesterday and it was packed with kids--I mean packed! Even though they were outside, it didn't look like a good idea.

While Kansas is just average on vaccination rates, my little county has done better than most, but still...

It's good to know about the viral load...

 

[GRT]

IMO Johnson is either naive or cynical in calling for people to take “personal responsibility” in a previously politicized pandemic. I remember when DJT tossed the PPE supply ball to the states…a convenient scapegoat. In a public health crisis it truly is the government’s responsibility to make and enforce hard decisions to keep the population safe. Are you listening CDC? Of course, what good does it do if responsible government leaders reinstitute mask (and social distancing) mandates that the sheriff won’t enforce (looking at you Los Angeles). JMO

From your link…
Singapore and the UK are both planning to 'live with Covid.' They are worlds apart on how to do that - CNN

Johnson also called for people to take personal responsibility, and recommended they wear face coverings in crowded or enclosed spaces, despite his decision to lift the mask mandate.
This reliance on personal responsibility has raised eyebrows. "It is very easy to [shift] that onus on personal responsibility and push the blame on the population" if deaths rise, Watson said.

I think eventually we're going to see some changes in our laws that permit more of a nationwide plan if something like this happens again.

But, to be fair, it's not in place yet. Right now, we have laws that don't allow the federal government to step in on many fronts. They can, however, deal with state-to-state travel and with quarantining those who enter our borders.

But, I fear we're going to have to trust the current run of governors to make good decisions for the time being.

And, they all seem to have dropped the ball at this point. I think they're all just hoping their constituents will reelect them if they lift restrictions.

It's all fun and games until fall--and then, it's anyone's guess what will happen.

 

[GRT]

I had my second AstraZeneca shot last week. I was so happy I didn't have the same violent reaction that I had to the first shot.

That's great! I'm happy for you!!!

 

[SouthAussie]

NSW has had its 3rd covid death. And Gladys has (FINALLY!!!) decided to lockdown hard. After weeks of refusing to define what an essential service is, she has now defined them ... and pretty much everything is closing up.

Sydney lockdown shock as Gladys Berejiklian admits NSW has failed to ‘quash’ Covid outbreak
NSW records COVID-19 death as new cases SURGE into triple figures

 

[weepingangel]

At least one of nine COVID-hospitalized children in Alabama on a ventilator
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Nine of the 367 Alabamians hospitalized with COVID-19 on Thursday were children, according to the Alabama Hospital Association. At least one of those children was on a ventilator Friday.

Fewer than five of Alabama’s nine hospitalized children with COVID-19 were at Children’s of Alabama in Birmingham, hospital spokesman Adam Kelley told APR in a message on Friday. At least one of those children was on a ventilator, he said.

When there are less than five children, the hospital doesn’t disclose actual numbers due to federal privacy laws, Kelley said.

 

[weepingangel]

COVID-19 outbreak infects 22 workers at Orlando’s 911 center
More at link


ORLANDO — At least 22 employees at Orlando’s 911 call center are out of work due to a COVID-19 outbreak, officials said.

Sixteen employees at the center tested positive for the coronavirus, and six others are quarantining because of possible exposure to an infected person, the Orlando Sentinel reported.

City spokeswoman Samantha Holsten said 103 people work at the center, where 911 calls are routed and triaged for police or fire response.

Two of the employees are hospitalized, but have responded well to treatment. Only one of the infected people had been vaccinated.

“I think it’s an opportunity for all of us who have been considering to get vaccinated or not to go ahead and exercise that,” Rolón said.

In Orange County daily caseloads of the virus have doubled from some 200 per day to more than 400 per day since Thursday

Employees at the 911 center are required to wear masks at work, the area is cleaned is cleaned and sanitized on a regular basis.

 

[Skigh]

Health Secretary Sajid Javid tests positive for Covid

 

[ilovewings]

White House: Florida accounts for 1 in 5 new U.S. COVID cases

1 in 5 new Covid cases come from Florida

 

[ilovewings]

Went to the grocery store this morning- I was the only customer with a mask- while cases here in our county are low, they are beginning to tick up slightly- Delta is so highly transmissible-----

 

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[mickey2942]

Three more small, local businesses bit the dust today. They stayed open during Covid, limping, struggling, but now, not able to get employees in order to stay open, finally done. Supply chain issues have also been an ongoing problem.

Sad to see local places close.

 

[WichitaFalls]

I'm sticking with masking . . .

WASHINGTON — Three Texas House Democrats have tested positive for COVID-19 from Washington, D.C., according to Texas House Democratic Caucus leadership.

They're among nearly 60 lawmakers who fled the state Monday to break quorum in the House, part of an effort to block the passage of a GOP-led elections bill. Most members are staying in the same hotel.
The three members are vaccinated. The caucus did not release their names.
There was a notable increase in the use of face coverings among lawmakers and Democratic staffers at their hotel on Saturday morning. Since members arrived late Monday, masks have been used sparingly as they moved through the lobby and held meetings around the city.
3 Texas Democrats test positive for COVID-19 in Washington, D.C.

 

[mickey2942]

I have been fully vaccinated since April, Pfizer. Last month, I had a "Summer Cold", that I didn't even think about getting a Covid test for, after all, I am vaccinated.

My husband, who had Moderna, did not catch my "Summer Cold".

I was coughing, hacking, exhausted, diarrhea, sneezing, massive migraines. Lasted about 2 weeks. I wonder if it was a variant? I see a lot of people every day...

 

[303gmf]

I have been fully vaccinated since April, Pfizer. Last month, I had a "Summer Cold", that I didn't even think about getting a Covid test for, after all, I am vaccinated.

My husband, who had Moderna, did not catch my "Summer Cold".

I was coughing, hacking, exhausted, diarrhea, sneezing, massive migraines. Lasted about 2 weeks. I wonder if it was a variant? I see a lot of people every day...

Similar, had Moderna in March, very recent nasty cold/flu for 2 weeks, assumed was a sinus infection but an odd one.
I’m around grandkids that attend daycare so chalked it up to community bugs

 

[mickey2942]

Similar, had Moderna in March, very recent nasty cold/flu for 2 weeks, assumed was a sinus infection but an odd one.
I’m around grandkids that attend daycare so chalked it up to community bugs

Probably. I was surprised that my husband didn't catch it.

 

[jjenny]

I have been fully vaccinated since April, Pfizer. Last month, I had a "Summer Cold", that I didn't even think about getting a Covid test for, after all, I am vaccinated.

My husband, who had Moderna, did not catch my "Summer Cold".

I was coughing, hacking, exhausted, diarrhea, sneezing, massive migraines. Lasted about 2 weeks. I wonder if it was a variant? I see a lot of people every day...

Could have been delta covid. It has similar symptoms to common cold in vaccinated people.