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Oh, I like that idea!

Zoom is amazing, even just using it among friends. We’ve done Friday evening games and happy hour, cooking demos, makeup tutorials, painting parties, poetry reading parties, watched movies together…where there’s a will there’s a way!

WhatsApp chats are also big in my circle of friends…we have a thrift shop to share unwanted stuff, we’ve planned help for a recently widowed friend, and more. It helps if there is someone in the group who is a born “social director” (not I! :D). Both of these tools and the friends who participate have actually allowed me to feel even less isolated than before the pandemic because I can be lazy and join in without leaving home. Since we may be hunkering down for quite awhile yet, maybe some of these ideas will help others keep their mental health intact! :)
 
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BREAKING: Los Angeles County issues mask mandate, regardless of vaccination status

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  • #503
Hooray, this is the way to go. IMO

L.A. County again requiring masks indoors starting Saturday amid spike in coronavirus cases | KTLA
Los Angeles County is reimplementing its mask mandate indoors — regardless of vaccination status— amid an increase in coronavirus case numbers and concerns over the delta variant, officials announced Thursday.
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“We took a chance in terms of lifting the physical distancing requirements as well as the capacity limits. We changed the masking at the time. We felt it was reasonable to do given the level of community transmission that we had at that moment,” Davis said. “But this is not the same situation. We’re in a very different situation. This is not the same as what it was June 15.”
 
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Can you get long-haul Covid if you're fully vaccinated? Here's what doctors say
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Breakthrough infections resulting in long Covid-19 are "quite rare," said Dr. Greg Vanichkachorn, an occupational medicine specialist who works with post-Covid-19 syndrome patients at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota.
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Dr. Michele Longo, an assistant professor of neurology at Tulane University in New Orleans who works with long-haul patients, said she has not seen such patients following a breakthrough infection. Neither has Dr. Maureen Lyons, medical director of the Care and Recovery from Covid-19 Clinic at Washington University in St. Louis.
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Lyons cautioned that the lack of observed post-Covid-19 cases in vaccinated people "just might be a lag time issue." That is, because Covid-19 vaccinations started rolling out en masse within the past three to four months, it is possible that not enough time has passed to identify long-haul patients following their vaccinations.

Dr. Natasha Altman, a cardiologist at UCHealth University of Colorado Hospital in Aurora, agreed that it may be too soon to understand the vaccines' effects on long-term Covid-19 symptoms.

"I think the trends are going to only really going to start bearing out in the next six months," she said.

Al-Aly acknowledged that possibility. "It is possible that down the road we may discover that maybe the vaccine only delayed the inevitable," he said.
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Zoom is amazing, even just using it among friends. We’ve done Friday evening games and happy hour, cooking demos, makeup tutorials, painting parties, poetry reading parties, watched movies together…where there’s a will there’s a way!

WhatsApp chats are also big in my circle of friends…we have a thrift shop to share unwanted stuff, we’ve planned help for a recently widowed friend, and more. It helps if there is someone in the group who is a born “social director” (not I! :D). Both of these tools and the friends who participate have actually allowed me to feel even less isolated than before the pandemic because I can be lazy and join in without leaving home. Since we may be hunkering down for quite awhile yet, maybe some of these ideas will help others keep their mental health intact! :)

It sounds like you and your friends have fun times on Zoom! Do you, or someone else, have a Zoom pro account (or whatever it's called)? Because when we've done this with friends, it bumps us off after about 40 minutes. I guess you can start over if that's not long enough.

We had a standing Friday evening "cocktail hour" on Zoom with a group of friends but haven't done it in a while. Now we can get together in person.

Have not used WhatsApp.

We use FaceTime with our family and some friends. It's great to have these options available.
 
  • #507
Ooooo thank you !! This was going to be my google search of the evening.... I’ve been thinking about it a lot the past day or so.
With the break thru cases being discussed. Long covid ain’t no fun.

And I wonder about all the kids <12 who will get infected now . We don’t even KNOW about the potential really long term covid yet effects yet.

Also sign me up for leaning towards impending doom. I’m just picturing this ripping right thru the unvaxxed folks. (Including the <12s) And taking some of us vaxxed ones along the way.


Can you get long-haul Covid if you're fully vaccinated? Here's what doctors say
...
Breakthrough infections resulting in long Covid-19 are "quite rare," said Dr. Greg Vanichkachorn, an occupational medicine specialist who works with post-Covid-19 syndrome patients at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota.
...
Dr. Michele Longo, an assistant professor of neurology at Tulane University in New Orleans who works with long-haul patients, said she has not seen such patients following a breakthrough infection. Neither has Dr. Maureen Lyons, medical director of the Care and Recovery from Covid-19 Clinic at Washington University in St. Louis.
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Lyons cautioned that the lack of observed post-Covid-19 cases in vaccinated people "just might be a lag time issue." That is, because Covid-19 vaccinations started rolling out en masse within the past three to four months, it is possible that not enough time has passed to identify long-haul patients following their vaccinations.

Dr. Natasha Altman, a cardiologist at UCHealth University of Colorado Hospital in Aurora, agreed that it may be too soon to understand the vaccines' effects on long-term Covid-19 symptoms.

"I think the trends are going to only really going to start bearing out in the next six months," she said.

Al-Aly acknowledged that possibility. "It is possible that down the road we may discover that maybe the vaccine only delayed the inevitable," he said.
...
 
  • #508
Ooooo thank you !! This was going to be my google search of the evening.... I’ve been thinking about it a lot the past day or so.
With the break thru cases being discussed. Long covid ain’t no fun.

And I wonder about all the kids <12 who will get infected now . We don’t even KNOW about the potential really long term covid yet effects yet.

Also sign me up for leaning towards impending doom. I’m just picturing this ripping right thru the unvaxxed folks. (Including the <12s) And taking some of us vaxxed ones along the way.
I too was wondering about the long Covid in vaccinated people for a while. Found the answer when I googled. So it seems most likely not but as the article indicates, it may be too soon to be sure.

Yeah, we, although fully vaccinated, will be double masked for awhile. We do not want Covid invading our body under no circumstances. Too many unknowns exist.
 
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Does anyone else use
U.S. COVID Risk & Vaccine Tracker

They send emails when the “risk level” changes. By state and maybe also metro/county?. They’ve always been ahead of the warnings vs msm imo. (I’ve been getting them since last early summer ? I think)
 
  • #513
I too was wondering about the long Covid in vaccinated people for a while. Found the answer when I googled. So it seems most likely not but as the article indicates, it may be too soon to be sure.

Yeah, we, although fully vaccinated, will be double masked for awhile. We do not want Covid invading our body under no circumstances. Too many unknowns exist.

Israel is experiencing this .... and they have a high vaccination rate.
Which, I guess, means that while most vaccinated people will not get seriously ill, they can still spread the virus around (and perhaps be asymptomatic while doing that).


The BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine is less effective at halting the spread of the Delta variant than previous strains of coronavirus, according to a preliminary study by Israel’s health ministry.

Data collected over the past month suggest the vaccine is 64 per cent effective at preventing infection among those who are fully inoculated, the ministry has found. Efficacy against previous strains of the virus was estimated at 94 per cent.

However, the figures, first reported in the Ynet news portal, indicate the vaccine is 93 per cent effective against serious illness and hospitalisation.

Pfizer vaccine less effective against Delta variant, Israeli study finds
 
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I too was wondering about the long Covid in vaccinated people for a while. Found the answer when I googled. So it seems most likely not but as the article indicates, it may be too soon to be sure.

Yeah, we, although fully vaccinated, will be double masked for awhile. We do not want Covid invading our body under no circumstances. Too many unknowns exist.

BBM above...
...Quote of the day!
 
  • #515
It sounds like you and your friends have fun times on Zoom! Do you, or someone else, have a Zoom pro account (or whatever it's called)? Because when we've done this with friends, it bumps us off after about 40 minutes. I guess you can start over if that's not long enough.

We had a standing Friday evening "cocktail hour" on Zoom with a group of friends but haven't done it in a while. Now we can get together in person.

Have not used WhatsApp.

We use FaceTime with our family and some friends. It's great to have these options available.
FaceTime was a bust with the family. Elderly relatives couldn’t hear and others had spotty internet service. It got to be such a chore after 10 minutes. The little ones hated it after spending hours each day on zoom classes at home.
Tried zoom with friends a few times. It’s mostly texting and pic sharing now.
 
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It sounds like you and your friends have fun times on Zoom! Do you, or someone else, have a Zoom pro account (or whatever it's called)? Because when we've done this with friends, it bumps us off after about 40 minutes. I guess you can start over if that's not long enough.

We had a standing Friday evening "cocktail hour" on Zoom with a group of friends but haven't done it in a while. Now we can get together in person.

Have not used WhatsApp.

We use FaceTime with our family and some friends. It's great to have these options available.

A few have Zoom Pro but we’ve also just signed back on if bumped.
 
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FaceTime was a bust with the family. Elderly relatives couldn’t hear and others had spotty internet service. It got to be such a chore after 10 minutes. The little ones hated it after spending hours each day on zoom classes at home.
Tried zoom with friends a few times. It’s mostly texting and pic sharing now.

It’s not for everyone and I do mostly texting and Instagram too. I find conversing in a big Zoom group (free-for-all) tedious, but small groups have worked well for us.
 
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