Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #97

[WichitaFalls]

I live in the US. My mother died suddenly last yr.
And because of covid, hospital restrictions, lock down, travel etc ..
I still don’t know what she REALLY died of ...even with a death certificate.
I think the saving grace has been to take all my memories of her & wear them like a protective coat.Holding on to the sum of how she was wonderfully here and not the reason she is gone.

I'm so sorry for your loss.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Speaking only for myself, the answer is no. Not even slightly. Tbh, when I read this thread it's like entering an alternate universe. Where I am, there are very few people masked. I'd estimate less than 5%. And I know that our "fully vaccinated" rate is below 50%. Yet no one is talking about Covid any more. Nearly all of the signs and floor markers are gone. Masks are not required to go anywhere, etc., etc.

Please let us know where you are. It is hard to believe that any area of the US is not worrying and thinking about this. Far northern states--east to west-are experiencing less (to date) but it is still hard to believe there is so little discussion of what is so heated up across the nation.

 

[pocketaccent]

July 31, 2021
New cases 194,608
Death 891

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[CoverMeCagney]

July 31, 2021
New cases 194,608
Death 891

These numbers are double what’s reported on Worldometers, what’s going on?

 

[KALI]

Well, everyone showed up today. Guessing they didn't want to deal with Friday traffic?

Wow. That’s bizarre.
It’s the opposite here. Boats out every day, people escaping the hot weather, empty boat slips on the weekend.
80 degrees sounds like a perfect temp.
Enjoy your retreat on your boat.

 

[jjenny]

These numbers are double what’s reported on Worldometers, what’s going on?

They probably added Fl for multiple days to today's, since Fl doesn't report every day?

 

[CoverMeCagney]

They probably added Fl for multiple days to today's, since Fl doesn't report every day?

Yes I’m wondering if the Worldometer cases are added retrospectively and it’s not showing in the daily stats. Could be.

 

[pocketaccent]

95% of British adults still wearing a mask outdoors, says survey

Only one British adult in 20 is no longer wearing a mask outdoors despite the relaxing of legal mask-wearing requirements earlier this month, according to the first official survey on complying with Covid measures since “Freedom Day”.

I think 95% of Americans got rid of the masks both indoors and outdoors when the CDC advised vaccinated can lose the mask. Now Delta has gone haywire. So predictable.

 

[MimosaMornings]

Please let us know where you are. It is hard to believe that any area of the US is not worrying and thinking about this. Far northern states--east to west-are experiencing less (to date) but it is still hard to believe there is so little discussion of what is so heated up across the nation.

I can easily believe it in many of the southern states.
Very few mask wearers besides myself.

Covid disappears until a parent, sibling, child, neighbor, best friend gets it.

In the past week I personally know 4 people (fully vaccinated) who tested positive.
One I just found out today.
All are younger than myself with no known health issues. Not elderly. Two have mild symptoms that are manageable with meds and two are in ICU on a ventilator.
Kind of gets your attention.
JMO

 

[TootsieFootsie]

My local paper, Central West, New South Wales, Australia

It's behind a paywall.

Seems older people are struggling, or don't know how to use the QR codes so are opting just to stay home.
I'm guessing some don't have a mobile phone and are still using landlines.

'I just don't go out': QR code concerns making it difficult for some

 

[SouthAussie]

My local paper, Central West, New South Wales, Australia

It's behind a paywall.

Seems older people are struggling, or don't know how to use the QR codes so are opting just to stay home.
I'm guessing some don't have a mobile phone and are still using landlines.

'I just don't go out': QR code concerns making it difficult for some

That makes no sense to me. Everywhere that we have QR codes, we have a sign-in sheet right next to it, or close by. For people who don't have phones with them - or don't have the app - to sign in.

I have used the sign-in sheet myself, when I accidently left my phone at home when I went grocery shopping.
And I am sure that if they have trouble writing, that a shop/venue staff member will help them.

As far as I know, it is mandatory to provide the QR code and the sign-in sheet - so people have a choice.


" ..... the approved contact tracing system (sign in with a QR Code or provide personal details) .... "
COVID-19 Restriction Checker
(the only personal details they require is your name and how to get hold of you, and the time you enter the venue)

 

[SouthAussie]

My local paper, Central West, New South Wales, Australia

It's behind a paywall.

Seems older people are struggling, or don't know how to use the QR codes so are opting just to stay home.
I'm guessing some don't have a mobile phone and are still using landlines.

'I just don't go out': QR code concerns making it difficult for some

Just looked up the NSW rules - this is what they say.

NSW Government states that:
"If any customers are unable to use the QR code, businesses should have an alternative check-in method available, such as an SMS service or manual check-in with a staff member."
"Businesses should adopt accessible and inclusive practices in actioning Covid-19 check-in standards so that all members of the community are considered."
NSW and QR Codes

Maybe it is a case of educating the people who are staying home about their options. I feel the article that you linked should have done that ... explained the options. I notice that it didn't do that.

 

[MimosaMornings]

Family reunion in Sunriver leads to breakthrough COVID cases | kgw.com

“A woman from Portland, Oregon has said 21 out of 29 people—13 of whom were vaccinated—who attended a family reunion have tested positive for COVID-19.

Niki Marienburg told KGW-TV, a Portland-based television news station, that family members from across the country attended the reunion at Sunriver Resort, a luxury resort in Central Oregon, for 10 days in June. She said most of her family was vaccinated, and no one wore masks throughout the reunion.”

13 out of 29 people were vaccinated.

 

[margarita25]

Major surge in both new cases and deaths:
July 31, 2021

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*eta - I see @pocketaccent also posted this

 

[ringbearer]

Out of interest, where are you and has Delta got there yet? You might find it changes things slightly.

I mentioned in a post above, I know almost nothing about the Delta variant except what I see in brief passing on the news in my office, or here. That's it. That said, I'm in the US and, reading here, it would seem that delta has gotten here.

 

[ringbearer]

Please let us know where you are. It is hard to believe that any area of the US is not worrying and thinking about this. Far northern states--east to west-are experiencing less (to date) but it is still hard to believe there is so little discussion of what is so heated up across the nation.

I'd rather not say exactly where I am. But I'm not in the deep South lol. I'm in a close-in suburb of one of the 5 largest cities in the US

 

[Mauig’ma]

I know more vaccinated people right now who have Covid than unvaccinated people. Excluding my 7 month old grandson who had Covid and RSV 2 wks ago. His mom runs a daycare and none of the kids got sick enough to get tested. None of us are vaccinated. We all turned out fine. So far…

 

[beatrixpotter]

Family reunion in Sunriver leads to breakthrough COVID cases | kgw.com

“A woman from Portland, Oregon has said 21 out of 29 people—13 of whom were vaccinated—who attended a family reunion have tested positive for COVID-19.

Niki Marienburg told KGW-TV, a Portland-based television news station, that family members from across the country attended the reunion at Sunriver Resort, a luxury resort in Central Oregon, for 10 days in June. She said most of her family was vaccinated, and no one wore masks throughout the reunion.”

13 out of 29 people were vaccinated.

"Marienburg, who did not get COVID, thinks of her mom. She and a few other family members who got COVID during the reunion have underlying health conditions. Despite being vaccinated, Marienburg said those family members still spent time in the hospital."

First we were told it would almost certainly prevent infection but if it didn't it would prevent hospitalization and death. Then we were told it might not prevent infection but it would prevent severe illness and death. But even that's not panning out. It's clear that in group settings it's not rare to get infected nor rare to end up in the hospital. Even not preventing severe illness doesn't mean preventing a potential lifetime of illness. If you don't actually die or end up on a vent you are a success story.

I don't regret getting vaccinated. I'm still willing to place my odds that being vaccinated I'll fair better. But I'm pretty pissed on some level because these statistics are not going to convince people to get vaccinated.

But, hey, what does that matter anyway. It's not possible to vax enough of the world to prevent the constant evolving of new variants.

Some days I still can't believe we are living through this. Of course many people apparently aren't living through this. They blissfully go about their days as if nothing's going on.

Then again some of them are busy battling a world in which they are surrounded by people whose very genes have been changed and who are shedding spike proteins where ever they go. Spike proteins that are going to cause mass infertility and death.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I've heard from quite a few local people who tell me that the QR code is compulsory all over New South Wales and is the only way to sign in.

I've tried to tell them that businesses have to provide an alternative but when the papers say you "have" to do it the QR way, it's falling on deaf ears. "But the paper says"

The paper sheet that was at my local pharmacy has now gone and there's a sign to ask a staff member for help signing in. They can sign you in
on their computers.

That makes no sense to me. Everywhere that we have QR codes, we have a sign-in sheet right next to it, or close by. For people who don't have phones with them - or don't have the app - to sign in.

 

[jjenny]

The vaccines weren't designed against delta. What we were told was based on the original data which was vaccine efficacy against the original virus.
Delta leads to much high viral load, so it's much more infectious. That results in more breakthrough cases.
So we can't really go by stats before delta hit.