That's a good point--where we messed up in the US was in implementing fake little "feel good" lockdowns that weren't lockdowns at all. People never stopped shopping at the supermarkets and home improvement centers--they were always packed with shoppers. Costco and Sams were considered "essential" and open.
And, the govt. assistance didn't go to those who needed it, so they risked opening back up. It was just ridiculous and still is.
I work in long term care, and I will say with 100% certainty that a vaccine mandate in this setting will be catastrophic for staffing. The bulk of staff who refuse to be vaccinated are CNAs who make $10-16/hr. They can just as easily go work for fast food places for the same wages without a vaccine. We already have near zero applicants for these jobs. It did get better when Texas opted out of the additional federal unemployment money, but the struggle is still very real with staffing these positions. The bulk of them refusing the vaccine are absolutely not going to be swayed to do so in order to keep their job. There is A LOT of panic going on right now about how on earth we will even begin to care for our elderly with 60-70% of our CNAs falling into the unvaccinated category.
Yes ur right I got the first dose from pressure to be able to fly. Once I did my own research I never went back for the second. Biggest regret is getting the first dose and caving to pressure.
Key Points
- All COVID-19 vaccines currently authorized in the United States are effective against COVID-19, including serious outcomes of severe disease, hospitalization, and death.
- Available evidence suggests the currently authorized mRNA COVID-19 vaccines (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna) are highly effective against hospitalization and death for a variety of strains, including Alpha (B.1.1.7), Beta (B.1.351), Gamma (P.1), and Delta (B.1.617.2); data suggest lower effectiveness against confirmed infection and symptomatic disease caused by the Beta, Gamma, and Delta variants compared with the ancestral strain and Alpha variant. Ongoing monitoring of vaccine effectiveness against variants is needed.
- A growing body of evidence indicates that people fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna) are less likely than unvaccinated persons to acquire SARS-CoV-2 or to transmit it to others. However, the risk for SARS-CoV-2 breakthrough infection in fully vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated as long as there is continued community transmission of the virus.
What do you think of this report from the UK?
Fully vaccinated adults can carry the same amount of coronavirus as those who are unvaccinated, according to a new study.
Researchers from the University of Oxford found the viral load reduction can be wiped out by the Delta variant which is now dominant in the UK.
While evidence demonstrates that vaccines significantly reduce hospitalisations and deaths, scientists now believe those infected by the Delta variant can still harbour similar levels of virus to those who are unvaccinated.
Previous research found that double jabbed people with the Alpha variant had far lower viral loads than un-vaccinated people, stoking hopes that the virus would spread less the more people were vaccinated.
However this has been thrown into doubt and raises questions about vaccine passports and recent changes to the NHS app, which work on the assumption that double-jabbed people are less likely to spread the virus.
Double jabbed carry same viral load of Covid as unvaccinated
What do you think of this report from the UK?
I find this report discouraging. I find it very, very discouraging. It seems like nothing we do will solve this Covid plague.
Some things we do may help, but nothing solves the problem. It goes on and on.
Well, here in the USA, we've now run out of monetary assistance from our government.
Now we have Delta. Absolutely not one financial contingency plan to deal with this new wave for our citizens. Maybe they'll stop trying to force a 3 Trillion infrastructure and global warming bill down our throats and keep the money they are printing for helping our citizens and our businesses. I can only hope.
They have done a similar study in US. With delta, vaccinated have the same virus load as unvaccinated when infected.For some reason, this wasn’t news to me, but I don’t know where I’d already heard that those of us who are vaxxed can be just as contagious as the unvaxxed. But yes, it’s very discouraging and disheartening.
Are they illegal? Are they afraid of deportation? What could be their stubbornness about being vaccinated? Do you know?
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