Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #99

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  • #301
Don’t call people selfish for not wearing a mask. You don’t know why. I actually was told at my dr appointment a few weeks ago not to put my mask back on when she came in the room. While the nurse was doing my vitals my O2 level was very low. Once I was alone in the room waiting for the dr I removed the required mask so I could breathe. Yes, there are people that are harmed by a mask.

Those who have doctor-advised medical reasons for not being able to wear a mask are not being selfish. The rest make their position clear with their words (posts on news articles on FB—see below) and their actions. And they are willing to harm your health, which should be much more offensive than someone saying they are selfish.

An example are these FB comments on the local news story about the Oregon Governor’s outdoor mask mandate that starts tomorrow. Do these people sound like they have medical reasons or are selfish?
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  • #302
If they do this then they should also do it for obese people, people with high cholesterol that do not alter their diets, people that smoke or drink, diabetics that don’t lower their A1C, people with high BP that don’t lower their salt and fat intake. I would sue them otherwise because it is discriminatory focusing on a single factor.

This “what about that” argument doesn’t work IMO. The disorders you list would be a logistical, legal and medical mine field to monitor and enforce by employers, doctors and insurance companies. And above all, they are not contagious. Refusing a vaccination that will reduce hospitalization for a highly contagious virus is an act that endangers everyone and is easily shown to increase medical costs.
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  • #303
This pandemic is exhausting. I'm spent. Searching for anything Good that can come out of the pandemic and haven't found any yet.

So far we have deaths, illness, divisive nation, mistrust, dangerously high inflation for food, housing, gas, insurance (watch out for sharp increase next year), everything else. And the poor children getting tested, wearing masks, learning the word Quarantine at 5 years old. Breaks my heart.
Anything good?

{{{{{@pocketaccent}}}}} I find myself sinking into the same dark hole and I struggle to “change the channel” of my thoughts multiple times each day. Although Zoom has been a really good thing in my life, I don’t feel good about the fact that the pandemic made it necessary. Really, I have very mixed feelings about anything good that came about because of the pandemic. I wish a pandemic hadn’t been the catalyst. So I have to look for good things apart from the pandemic that I can still enjoy…like videos from my friend in S.E. Asia of her mama cat’s newborn kittens. And my faith, my friends, old TV shows like Columbo, Websleuths, etc. It’s NOT easy, but otherwise just shoot me now!
 
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{{{{{@pocketaccent}}}}} I find myself sinking into the same dark hole and I struggle to “change the channel” of my thoughts multiple times each day. Although Zoom has been a really good thing in my life, I don’t feel good about the fact that the pandemic made it necessary. Really, I have very mixed feelings about anything good that came about because of the pandemic. I wish a pandemic hadn’t been the catalyst. So I have to look for good things apart from the pandemic that I can still enjoy…like videos from my friend in S.E. Asia of her mama cat’s newborn kittens. And my faith, my friends, old TV shows like Columbo, Websleuths, etc. It’s NOT easy, but otherwise just shoot me now!
Thank you for the hug!
I found one good thing. We are eating simpler and much healthier meals, I'm sure, as I prepare all our meals at home now using only known healthy ingredients. We've not been to restaurants since early last year.
 
  • #306
{{{{{@pocketaccent}}}}} I find myself sinking into the same dark hole and I struggle to “change the channel” of my thoughts multiple times each day. Although Zoom has been a really good thing in my life, I don’t feel good about the fact that the pandemic made it necessary. Really, I have very mixed feelings about anything good that came about because of the pandemic. I wish a pandemic hadn’t been the catalyst. So I have to look for good things apart from the pandemic that I can still enjoy…like videos from my friend in S.E. Asia of her mama cat’s newborn kittens. And my faith, my friends, old TV shows like Columbo, Websleuths, etc. It’s NOT easy, but otherwise just shoot me now!

Shoot you? Columbo would never allow it!

You'll be fine if you like Columbo.

"Just one more thing."
 
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{{{{{@pocketaccent}}}}} I find myself sinking into the same dark hole and I struggle to “change the channel” of my thoughts multiple times each day. Although Zoom has been a really good thing in my life, I don’t feel good about the fact that the pandemic made it necessary. Really, I have very mixed feelings about anything good that came about because of the pandemic. I wish a pandemic hadn’t been the catalyst. So I have to look for good things apart from the pandemic that I can still enjoy…like videos from my friend in S.E. Asia of her mama cat’s newborn kittens. And my faith, my friends, old TV shows like Columbo, Websleuths, etc. It’s NOT easy, but otherwise just shoot me now!
One good thing for us is that my little dog is living his best life with mum home most days. He curls up in the armchair in my office {aka dining room!} and snoozes happily, waking occasionally to check I'm still there. Bless his little heart.
 
  • #309
It's not true that people are harmed by wearing a mask. Even most people with a chronic respiratory condition can safely wear a face mask according to the Canadian Thoracic Society. The agency that develops respiratory guidelines for lung health professionals asserts that there is no scientific evidence to suggest that face coverings aggravate an underlying lung condition.

Medical reasons for why some people can't wear a mask
Also, people with chronic respiratory conditions are the people who should be DILIGENT about wearing a mask. If they get Covid it will be one TOUGH row to hoe. (lifelong asthmatic here)
 
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Thu, August 26, 2021, 4:56 AM

Warnings About the Sturgis Rally Have Come Tragically True

Meade County, home to Sturgis, has had a more than 1,500 percent increase in cases in the past 14 days.
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Motorcycle enthusiasts attend the 81st annual Sturgis Motorcycle Rally on Aug. 8, 2021, in Sturgis, S.D.

In western South Dakota’s Meade County, more than one in three COVID-19 tests are currently returning positive, and over the last three weeks, seven-day average case counts have increased by 3,400 percent.

This exponential growth in cases is likely attributable to the 81st Sturgis Motorcycle Rally, which drew an estimated half a million visitors to Meade County and its environs from Aug. 6 through 15, potentially acting as a superspreader event.
 
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I work in a Kansas City emergency room. I know who’s to blame for COVID frustration

COVID-19 is something we are still learning about. We health care workers are trying to perfect how we respond to it and make people as safe as possible.

I’m not angry at those who aren’t yet vaccinated, and I’m not angry at those who have put so much faith into the vaccine.

Who and what bothers me …

Is the person in the hospital lobby coughing, trying to refuse wearing a mask because “I don’t have COVID. I was tested three months ago.” (And new test results come back in 30 minutes revealing that the patient is, indeed, positive.)

And the person who says, “If they aren’t vaccinated, they might as well just die. They’re stupid.”


There is so much attitude of superiority on both extremist sides.

I understand the frustration of those who are anti-vaccine and those who are pro-vaccine. Both sides’ anger and exasperation come from fear and exhaustion. And maybe even from PTSD.

Maintain compassion for the fact that so many people are utterly terrified and have suffered loss.

I do feel blessed to still be alive, breathing without effort and walking around outside in the sunshine.

I’m going to work on checking my attitude more often. Because, as I said, I am very guilty of being crotchety about all of this. I’m pointing the finger at myself, first.
 
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One good thing for us is that my little dog is living his best life with mum home most days. He curls up in the armchair in my office {aka dining room!} and snoozes happily, waking occasionally to check I'm still there. Bless his little heart.

Aww- that is so sweet!!!!
 
  • #314
Covid-19 UK: Number of Britons falling ill with virus every day rises by a fifth in a week to 52,000 | Daily Mail Online


Professor Tim Spector, an epidemiologist and lead scientist on the study, said ditching social distancing and face masks on 'Freedom Day' last month has allowed Covid to find 'an opportunity to spread'.

He warned that it was likely cases would continue to rise, especially with children returning to classrooms next week.

Experts fear schools reopening will accelerate the current rise in cases, deaths and hospitalisations, prompting calls for children as young as 12 to be given vaccines. NHS England bosses yesterday told trusts to be ready to expand the roll out to 12 to 15-year-olds in just two weeks' time.

Data from the NHS Test and Trace today found there was a five per cent rise in infections in the week to August 18 in England. More than 200,000 tested positive for the virus during the week.

The rise was in line with Department of Health figures that showed Britain's daily infections rose six per cent to 35,847, up from 33,904 the week before yesterday.

Deaths also jumped by a third in a week to 149, up from the 111 recorded last Wednesday.

Covid hospitalisations rose week-on-week for the twelfth day in a row after 859 admissions were recorded on August 21. There were 779 admissions seven days beforehand.




 
  • #315
Ballad Health runs out of ICU beds, plans for if hospitals need to pick who to treat first

There are no ICU beds left in our region. Hospitals are converting post-surgery rooms to make more, and the system is ordering 50 more ventilators.

“When all those beds are full and you have more patients coming in, traumatic injuries or other things, there may be a decision that has to be made. Who gets that resource?” CEO Alan Levine explained.

This is the reality of what is happening where I live
 
  • #316
Covid-19 UK: Number of Britons falling ill with virus every day rises by a fifth in a week to 52,000 | Daily Mail Online


Professor Tim Spector, an epidemiologist and lead scientist on the study, said ditching social distancing and face masks on 'Freedom Day' last month has allowed Covid to find 'an opportunity to spread'.

He warned that it was likely cases would continue to rise, especially with children returning to classrooms next week.

Experts fear schools reopening will accelerate the current rise in cases, deaths and hospitalisations, prompting calls for children as young as 12 to be given vaccines. NHS England bosses yesterday told trusts to be ready to expand the roll out to 12 to 15-year-olds in just two weeks' time.

Data from the NHS Test and Trace today found there was a five per cent rise in infections in the week to August 18 in England. More than 200,000 tested positive for the virus during the week.

The rise was in line with Department of Health figures that showed Britain's daily infections rose six per cent to 35,847, up from 33,904 the week before yesterday.

Deaths also jumped by a third in a week to 149, up from the 111 recorded last Wednesday.

Covid hospitalisations rose week-on-week for the twelfth day in a row after 859 admissions were recorded on August 21. There were 779 admissions seven days beforehand.

Apparently in our countries we have thrown caution to the wind: just do whatever you feel like doing- masks? nah social distancing nah vaccinations (in the US), nah: Going to crowded events- YEAH CAN'T WAIT-- Pandemic? what pandemic---

And ya know what? I am po'd because of all those selfish people who are the
cause of this horrible spread of Delta, I cannot enjoy my life- no dining out, no getting together with friends, no going out to social activities because I don't want to get sick or have my loved ones get sick. For a brief moment it looked like we could get back to some semlance of normalcy, but now with the Delta variant raging, forget about that (unless you don't care if you get sick). It is maddening.
 
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Ballad Health runs out of ICU beds, plans for if hospitals need to pick who to treat first
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There are no ICU beds left in our region. Hospitals are converting post-surgery rooms to make more, and the system is ordering 50 more ventilators.

“When all those beds are full and you have more patients coming in, traumatic injuries or other things, there may be a decision that has to be made. Who gets that resource?” CEO Alan Levine explained.

This is the reality of what is happening where I live

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That is an amazingly steep curve that the region is going through. Steeper than any previous one.
 
  • #318
It's not true that people are harmed by wearing a mask. Even most people with a chronic respiratory condition can safely wear a face mask according to the Canadian Thoracic Society. The agency that develops respiratory guidelines for lung health professionals asserts that there is no scientific evidence to suggest that face coverings aggravate an underlying lung condition.

Medical reasons for why some people can't wear a mask
My O2 readings while wearing a mask disagree with your statement.
 
  • #319
This “what about that” argument doesn’t work IMO. The disorders you list would be a logistical, legal and medical mine field to monitor and enforce by employers, doctors and insurance companies. And above all, they are not contagious. Refusing a vaccination that will reduce hospitalization for a highly contagious virus is an act that endangers everyone and is easily shown to increase medical costs.
JMO
Their stated reason for charging them extra is not due to being contagious. They state it is because of cost of treatment. That falls into exactly the same for the things I posted.
 
  • #320
I hope your pulmonologist has you on oxygen therapy now to maintain your 02 levels, sounds like it dropped quickly in a short amount of time!
I just saw a pulmonologist for the first time this week. I am now getting treatment for my COPD that I haven’t received in 6 years. I now have medication.
 
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