Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #99

[Lilibet]

More at link. @Lilibet and others who've had Covid, take note!

That’s very encouraging @anneg. Throw in the monoclonal antibody infusions my DH and I also received and we should be invincible……but we’re not taking any chances! It does make me breathe a tiny bit easier tho’ as cases skyrocket in our area, even among the vaccinated.

A friend who is the administrator for a large local senior living community, consisting of apartments, condos and houses, told me they went from zero cases last week to six this week. All were vaccinated, but probably back in January/February, so immunity could have diminished and Delta is running rampant. Three are asymptomatic and the others are mild, fortunately. They’ve had to close the dining room again and go back to delivering meals. It’s been a long haul for employees and residents alike.

 

[katydid23]

That’s very encouraging @anneg. Throw in the monoclonal antibody infusions my DH and I also received and we should be invincible……but we’re not taking any chances! It does make me breathe a tiny bit easier tho’ as cases skyrocket in our area, even among the vaccinated.

A friend who is the administrator for a large local senior living community, consisting of apartments, condos and houses, told me they went from zero cases last week to six this week. All were vaccinated, but probably back in January/February, so immunity could have diminished and Delta is running rampant. Three are asymptomatic and the others are mild, fortunately. They’ve had to close the dining room again and go back to delivering meals. It’s been a long haul for employees and residents alike.

My Mom's senior living comp-lex just closed the dining room and we cannot visit anymore. I am glad we just did recently and my brother and his wife did just last week. But it is shut down again now.

Mom has to stay in her apartment, no more walking around the complex for now.

 

[Lilibet]

Their stated reason for charging them extra is not due to being contagious. They state it is because of cost of treatment. That falls into exactly the same for the things I posted.

Fair enough. Remove my comment about being Covid being contagious and I think my point is still valid that monitoring all the ailments you listed is still a medical and legal minefield of ambiguity for the employers and insurance companies.

obese people, people with high cholesterol that do not alter their diets, people that smoke or drink, diabetics that don’t lower their A1C, people with high BP that don’t lower their salt and fat intake.

Who determines whether people have altered their diets, reduced salt and fat intake, whether they smoke or drink, and have taken all possible steps to lower their A1C? It would be impossible to prove and enforce without increasing medical and insurance costs for all of us. But it’s simple to prove I’ve had a vaccination that has been shown to reduce the potential for extremely expensive hospitalization.

But regardless of the “expense of treatment” reason stated by the employer, it is still true that we are in the midst of a highly contagious pandemic and employers do have the right to reduce their financial risk when possible. I don’t see that any lawsuit will hold up. But we can agree to disagree.

 

[Lilibet]

My Mom's senior living comp-lex just closed the dining room and we cannot visit anymore. I am glad we just did recently and my brother and his wife did just last week. But it is shut down again now.

Mom has to stay in her apartment, no more walking around the complex for now.

I’m so sorry @katydid23. I know this has been so hard for your Mom…and for you. I’m glad you and your brother got to visit recently. I’m sure that was a comfort to all of you. Hugs.

 

[GRT]

My Mom's senior living comp-lex just closed the dining room and we cannot visit anymore. I am glad we just did recently and my brother and his wife did just last week. But it is shut down again now.

Mom has to stay in her apartment, no more walking around the complex for now.

I cannot visit my mom indoors, but they allow me to meet her at the front door (she's in a wheelchair since she fell and broke her hip), and I push her around the grounds. I'm on the schedule to meet her this morning and do just that. I'll put together a little picnic for us and we'll just spend time together outdoors.

Before I can take her out, though, they'll make me fill out a questionnaire and take my temperature.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Australia's children air their worrying COVID concerns on Q+A with Dr Norman Swan

COVID-19 has changed the way we live and for the children of Australia, caused some alarming concerns, and they were laid bare on Q+A on Thursday night.

The discussions came just ahead of an anticipated announcement on Friday, advising children aged between 12 and 15 be added to Australia's COVID-19 vaccine rollout.

 

[SouthAussie]

Australia's children air their worrying COVID concerns on Q+A with Dr Norman Swan

COVID-19 has changed the way we live and for the children of Australia, caused some alarming concerns, and they were laid bare on Q+A on Thursday night.

The discussions came just ahead of an anticipated announcement on Friday, advising children aged between 12 and 15 be added to Australia's COVID-19 vaccine rollout.

I just read that children between 12-15 are going to start being vaccinated on 13th September ... which will be especially good for the kids in NSW, so they can get back to school safely.

NSW has also mandated compulsory vaccinations for all teachers and staff, they have to be vaccinated by November. Wearing compulsory masks until then (once school resumes in NSW).

I also just read that they caught that 27 year old covid positive guy who had refused to quarantine or wear a mask, and went on the run. He is up on 13 charges now, has been refused bail, and is in isolation. In a Ch9 video I saw of the arrest, people were clapping and cheering as he was carted away in police custody.

Families welcome green light for children's jabs

https://www.hcamag.com/au/news/general/covid-19-vaccine-becomes-mandatory-for-teachers-as-nsw-expands-public-health-order/308085

No bail for alleged NSW quarantine skipper

 

[Skigh]

Covid-positive Sydney man accused of refusing to isolate and evading police is charged | Daily Mail Online


Footage has captured the moment armed police carrying shields and battering rams arrested a Covid-infected man who allegedly refused to isolate while on the run from authorities for nearly two weeks.

Anthony Karam, 27, was arrested by Bankstown police just before 5.30pm on Thursday at an apartment in Wentworth Point in Sydney's west.

The accused 'public health enemy number one' was previously known to police and tested positive for the disease on August 14, cops say, but allegedly refused to self-isolate at home.

CCTV footage of Karam released by police had showed him coughing while in an apartment block lift.

On Thursday evening, police were seen arriving to arrest the 27-year-old at the apartment building, before he was led out outside wearing a gown, mask and face visor to cheers from the public.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Covid-positive Sydney man accused of refusing to isolate and evading police is charged | Daily Mail Online


Footage has captured the moment armed police carrying shields and battering rams arrested a Covid-infected man who allegedly refused to isolate while on the run from authorities for nearly two weeks.

Anthony Karam, 27, was arrested by Bankstown police just before 5.30pm on Thursday at an apartment in Wentworth Point in Sydney's west.

The accused 'public health enemy number one' was previously known to police and tested positive for the disease on August 14, cops say, but allegedly refused to self-isolate at home.

CCTV footage of Karam released by police had showed him coughing while in an apartment block lift.

On Thursday evening, police were seen arriving to arrest the 27-year-old at the apartment building, before he was led out outside wearing a gown, mask and face visor to cheers from the public.

Blimey!

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Interesting article:
Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine—but no infection parties, please

The natural immune protection that develops after a SARS-COV-2 infection offers considerably more of a shield against the Delta variant of the pandemic coronavirus than two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, according to a large Israeli study that some scientists wish came with a “Don’t try this at home” label. The newly released data shows that people who once had a SARS-COV-2 infection were much less likely than vaccinated people to get Delta, develop symptoms from it, or become hospitalized with serious COVID-19.

[...]

The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and then received one dose of the messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine from Pfizer-BioNTech were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated.

[...]

“We continue to underestimate the importance of natural infection immunity… especially when [infection] is recent,” says Eric Topol, a physician-scientist at Scripps Research. “And when you bolster that with one dose of vaccine, you take it to levels you can’t possibly match with any vaccine in the world right now.”

More at link. @Lilibet and others who've had Covid, take note!

This REALLY IS very interesting......
I thought , for sure, that we had seen articles that indicated the length of time the antibodies after infection only lasted 4-6 weeks....

so now I am really confused.
Honestly.... i could see infection parties for younger people.

 

[ilovewings]

This REALLY IS very interesting......
I thought , for sure, that we had seen articles that indicated the length of time the antibodies after infection only lasted 4-6 weeks....

so now I am really confused.
Honestly.... i could see infection parties for younger people.

We keep getting conflicting information in so many areas- who knows what to believe? Remember these gems: children don't get the virus/don't spread it
The jab may last a lifetime

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Fla. Woman Comes Home from Hospital After COVID Battle to Find Husband Died at Home from Virus

 

[TootsieFootsie]

'I miss my son': Chicago mom loses her 12-year-old boy to COVID

CHICAGO - Rina Miller spent her days and nights caring for her son with Down syndrome.

Not long after Alonso Moreira’s 12th birthday earlier this month, they both began struggling to breathe. They had been infected with the coronavirus.

Paramedics took them to Stroger Hospital, where they were placed at opposite ends of the hospital. Miller said she pleaded in vain with doctors to transfer Alonso to a hospital better suited for his age and condition.

Two days later, a doctor came to her room and told her Alonso had died.

"It’s too hard, and I miss my son," Miller said through tears.

 

[anneg]

'I miss my son': Chicago mom loses her 12-year-old boy to COVID

CHICAGO - Rina Miller spent her days and nights caring for her son with Down syndrome.

Not long after Alonso Moreira’s 12th birthday earlier this month, they both began struggling to breathe. They had been infected with the coronavirus.

Paramedics took them to Stroger Hospital, where they were placed at opposite ends of the hospital. Miller said she pleaded in vain with doctors to transfer Alonso to a hospital better suited for his age and condition.

Two days later, a doctor came to her room and told her Alonso had died.

"It’s too hard, and I miss my son," Miller said through tears.

A sad story. Neither mother nor son had been vaccinated.
From the article (BBM):

Since the pandemic began last year, nine children 15 years old or younger have died from COVID-19 in Cook County. Most had underlying medical conditions that put them at a higher risk of dying from the coronavirus. In early August, a 9-year-old boy with cerebral palsy died. In June, a 7-year-old girl with leukemia died.

Their deaths point up the particular dangers to medically vulnerable children that COVID poses.

"Children with any kind of underlying condition are at more risk of getting more severe COVID disease if they get infected," said Dr. Tina Tan, a pediatrician at Ann & Robert H. Lurie Children’s Hospital. "And many of those kids will be hospitalized. And unfortunately some of them will die."

Common underlying conditions among children who have died of COVID include obesity, diabetes and asthma. And children with Down syndrome have been found to be 10 times more likely to die from the virus.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Brother and sister banned from high school for not wearing masks (nbcnews.com)

Their father said wearing masks violates their religious beliefs.

The father of two high school students in California says his children are being discriminated against because of their religious beliefs after they refused to wear masks on the first day of school and are now banned from campus.

“They were sent home and told not to come back with or without a mask,” said Gary Nelson, whose children, Drew, 17, and Victoria, 16, attend the Springs Charter Schools Temecula Student Center. “If they do, they would be charged with trespassing.”

Nelson said Drew, a senior, and Victoria, a junior, were booted from the campus on Aug. 19 when they declined to wear masks because of their religious beliefs.

“The Bible says we’re made in the image of God and Satan tries to cover that up. A mask is a sign of oppression,” Nelson said Thursday...

 

[WildOrchid]

Good grief.

Brother and sister banned from high school for not wearing masks (nbcnews.com)

Their father said wearing masks violates their religious beliefs.

The father of two high school students in California says his children are being discriminated against because of their religious beliefs after they refused to wear masks on the first day of school and are now banned from campus.

“They were sent home and told not to come back with or without a mask,” said Gary Nelson, whose children, Drew, 17, and Victoria, 16, attend the Springs Charter Schools Temecula Student Center. “If they do, they would be charged with trespassing.”

Nelson said Drew, a senior, and Victoria, a junior, were booted from the campus on Aug. 19 when they declined to wear masks because of their religious beliefs.

“The Bible says we’re made in the image of God and Satan tries to cover that up. A mask is a sign of oppression,” Nelson said Thursday...

 

[ilovewings]

Fla. Woman Comes Home from Hospital After COVID Battle to Find Husband Died at Home from Virus

That is really a horrible story: The thing about Covid is, some people seem to be getting better and then they die. Very sad really.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Good grief.

I wonder if either of the teens (or their father) have been vaccinated?

 

[Skigh]

Covid-19 UK: Scientists are growing Delta variant in a lab to purposely infect volunteers | Daily Mail Online

Scientists are currently growing the Delta Covid variant in laboratories with the aim of intentionally infecting volunteers.

British researchers are developing the samples to use in challenge trials — which see participants paid up to £4,500 for taking part.

Two trials by Imperial College London and the University of Oxford started in London in March with the goal of developing new vaccines and treatments.

Forty healthy, young volunteers have already been exposed to the original Wuhan strain, under careful supervision.

But the next stage of trials will infect participants with Delta, the more transmissible strain which is now dominant across the UK.

Challenge-trial partner hVivo and colleagues in the Netherlands have been growing the variant, according to Andrew Catchpole, the company's chief scientific officer.

Mr Catchpole, a virologist, said the variant — which is being grown from an original human sample — has proven harder to develop than the original Wuhan strain.

 

[weepingangel]

Ugh
Reminded me of this I read last night -both being found at home
Statesboro daycare workers die from COVID-19 on the same day
More at link
Bulloch County Deputy Coroner Richard Pylant says police were called to each of their homes for a welfare check after neither had been heard from. Each had been dead at least a day by the time their bodies were discovered.

Fla. Woman Comes Home from Hospital After COVID Battle to Find Husband Died at Home from Virus