Coronavirus Global Health Emergency, 2019-nCoV #2

[gregjrichards]

From Chinatown to ghost town: How once-bustling Sydney streets and restaurants have been left deserted as businesses close for good amid coronavirus hysteria - but chemists are BOOMING

Sydney streets and restaurants are deserted as businesses close for good amid coronavirus | Daily Mail Online

This outbreak must be having a devastating impact on restaurants and other businesses in China, Australia and beyond.

 

[gregjrichards]

Have 'real' coronavirus death figures been leaked? Chinese conglomerate lists death toll at 24,589 but quickly changes to official numbers

Have 'real' coronavirus death figures been leaked? Chinese conglomerate lists death toll at 24,589 | Daily Mail Online

Sorry for posting so much. This is horrifying if true.

 

[Tadpole12]

No at gregjrichards.
Post away.
Shared/group experience.

Informative links get buried fast, using my ipad,
and then have to weed my way through many duplicates.

 

[beatrixpotter]

From Chinatown to ghost town: How once-bustling Sydney streets and restaurants have been left deserted as businesses close for good amid coronavirus hysteria - but chemists are BOOMING

Sydney streets and restaurants are deserted as businesses close for good amid coronavirus | Daily Mail Online

This outbreak must be having a devastating impact on restaurants and other businesses in China, Australia and beyond.

Beyond the terrible impact on human health and life or death I think this is going to be devastating economically for sure. People not frequenting Chinese owned business and then most of what we get (in the US at least) is made in China. China plays a huge role in economies all around the world. Like how do all these companies manufacture when people are quarantined? Health and safety trumps everything else right now of course. But they could be looking at months of this. This must be devastating to families over there if they can't work.

A Chinese American friend mentioned wanting to send money to family in China who are in a quarantined city. But she's not heard from them in 2 days and is worried. And it sounds like less things are coming in to the stores that remain open.

 

[Pi Thoughts]

The Chinese province that is “ground zero” for the coronavirus has reported 70 deaths in one day — a new record for the outbreak.

Health authorities in Hubai said there had been 70 new deaths on Thursday and a further 2987 confirmed cases of coronavirus, the South China Morning Post reports.

That brings the total deaths from the virus in the province to 549 people, with 19,665 infections.

On Tuesday there were 65 reported deaths and 3156 new infections.
Race against time to contain global spread of coronavirus

 

[beatrixpotter]

Have 'real' coronavirus death figures been leaked? Chinese conglomerate lists death toll at 24,589 but quickly changes to official numbers

Have 'real' coronavirus death figures been leaked? Chinese conglomerate lists death toll at 24,589 | Daily Mail Online

Sorry for posting so much. This is horrifying if true.

Please don't apologize for posting too much. I'm so grateful to everyone who posts a bunch of articles that I can get around to reading when I have the time. It's so much easier than trying to search it out myself. I think there are ways for google to alert you but I've never gotten around to figuring that out myself.

 

[dotr]

5 Feb 2020 23:31:03 GMT
Author: Eamonn Sheridan | Category: News
National Health Commission with the updated figures for mainland China as of end February 5, more than 3.5K new cases yesterday

• China updates total coronavirus cases to 28,018 (from 24,324 yesterday)
  
• Jan 17: 41
• Jan 19: 62
• Jan 20: 201
• Jan 21: 291
• Jan 22: 440
  
• Jan 24: 830
  
• Jan 25: 1,287
• Jan 26: 1,975
• Jan 27: 2,744
• Jan 28: 5,974
• Jan 29: 7,711
• Jan 30: 9,692
  
• Jan 31: 11,791
• Feb 1: 14,380 (number of dead across the country 304)
• Feb 2: 17,205 (number of deaths 361)
• Feb 3: 20,438 (death toll 425)
• Feb 4: 24,324 total cases, 490 deaths
• Feb 5: 28,018 (death toll up by 73, now 563)

 

[mickey2942]

Just a "reality check", there are only 12 active, verified cases currently in the United States.

Wisconsin officials just confirmed a coronavirus case there — the 12th in the US

 

[gregjrichards]

Beyond the terrible impact on human health and life or death I think this is going to be devastating economically for sure. People not frequenting Chinese owned business and then most of what we get (in the US at least) is made in China. China plays a huge role in economies all around the world. Like how do all these companies manufacture when people are quarantined? Health and safety trumps everything else right now of course. But they could be looking at months of this. This must be devastating to families over there if they can't work.

A Chinese American friend mentioned wanting to send money to family in China who are in a quarantined city. But she's not heard from them in 2 days and is worried. And it sounds like less things are coming in to the stores that remain open.

I hope your friend’s family are ok it must be very worrying. I’ve been wondering what the social security is like in China it is awful to think of people being worried sick about their health and how they are going to survive financially.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

Morbid thought, sorry -- after a person with CV dies, their tally should be reduced from the "currently sick" category in the four-column accounting that was discussed earlier.

The "currently sick" number is the one that expresses the potential to spread, rather than the "total cases" number. Yes?

 

[Tadpole12]

Have 'real' coronavirus death figures been leaked? Chinese conglomerate lists death toll at 24,589 but quickly changes to official numbers

Have 'real' coronavirus death figures been leaked? Chinese conglomerate lists death toll at 24,589 | Daily Mail Online

Sorry for posting so much. This is horrifying if true.

Death Toll ... 24 589
Infected .......154 000

'Analyse predictive Coronavirus 2019-nCoV''
Indicates the mortality number of 23 321 could be reached by
29/02/2020. 3 weeks from now.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

クルーズ船で新たに１０人感染｜NHK 首都圏のニュース

10 more cases on the 10 already infected from the ship = 20

Google translation might help
Feb 06 @ 09:01

According to the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare, as a result of conducting a virus test on people with symptoms and their close contacts on a cruise ship on which a Hong Kong man infected with the new coronavirus was on board, 10 people were infected.

Newly confirmed.So far, a total of 20 passengers have been confirmed infected with this cruise ship.

According to the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare, quarantine of about 3,700 passengers and all crew members were carried out on board the cruise ship Diamond Princess, and 120 people who had symptoms such as fever and cough, We have collected specimens from a total of 273 persons, including 153 persons who have been in close contact, and conducted virus tests sequentially.

On the 6th, results for 71 new cases were found, and 10 of them were confirmed to have been infected with the virus.

The cruise ship will be berthing at the port of Yokohama, and the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare will send 10 newly infected individuals to medical institutions in Kanagawa Prefecture.

As a result, the number of infected passengers on the cruise ship has been confirmed to be 20 including the 10 confirmed on the 5th.

The Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare has been requesting that approximately 3,700passengers and crew members remaining on board the ship be kept on board, and in principle stay in the cabin for 14 days, as the inspection continues.

 

[Pi Thoughts]

The coronavirus death toll has passed 550 this week as Chinese media reported ten more people onboard a cruise ship tested positive for the virus, as well as a baby, confirmed just 30 hours after it's birth.

The group of ten have been forced to stay in their cabins on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, following the release of their test results for the highly infectious disease.

As of this week, the virus has claimed 73 more victims, taking the number of casualties so far to 563.

More than 28,000 people have now been infected globally, including a baby born in Wuhan, ground zero for the virus outbreak.

The newborn baby's mother had tested positive for the virus before she gave birth, according to the Chinese state broadcaster CCTV
Ten more passengers onboard cruise ship are among 28,000 coronavirus cases, as death toll passes 550

 

[MJPeony]

Well, they probably had no clue what the patient had. It wasn't until the last Ebola outbreak that patients were even asked if they had been out of the country in the last month.

I wonder if they will receive pay during the time they are home.

It does sounds like they had no clue. But they certainly should have (JMO). It was already known to be an outbreak in China by the time he flew in to San Jose airport in the US.

The does concern me that if, at the end of January, the US medical caregivers were not already screening for CV, then how many people were seen in emergency rooms and regular doctor offices where the staff didn’t screen for CV?

And then my next thought is, how many people in end of January were seen for “flu-like symptoms” and then, as is often the case, told to go home and come back if they get worse.... but CV was never suspected or mentioned. Because medical caregivers were not on alert.

ETA: In other words- potential that there were people sick with CV who did seek care for flulike symptoms and then went home and no one was the wiser.... and they exposed a ton of people.



MOO

 

[KALI]

A vacation turned into a nightmare.
If you've not been on a cruise ship, please note that their cabins are tiny.
They want you out mingling and having fun.
They are designed to make a place to sleep and a quick shower.
From a social study alone.
I know that I could do 14 days in a tiny space with my beloved mate. But it would be Very hard.
Especially if he was constantly negative.
I might well be running down the corridors, virus be damned.
Hell. I might tell them I have the virus in hopes of being flown elsewhere!

クルーズ船で新たに１０人感染｜NHK 首都圏のニュース

10 more cases on the 10 already infected from the ship = 20

Google translation might help
Feb 06 @ 09:01

According to the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare, as a result of conducting a virus test on people with symptoms and their close contacts on a cruise ship on which a Hong Kong man infected with the new coronavirus was on board, 10 people were infected.

Newly confirmed.So far, a total of 20 passengers have been confirmed infected with this cruise ship.

According to the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare, quarantine of about 3,700 passengers and all crew members were carried out on board the cruise ship Diamond Princess, and 120 people who had symptoms such as fever and cough, We have collected specimens from a total of 273 persons, including 153 persons who have been in close contact, and conducted virus tests sequentially.

On the 6th, results for 71 new cases were found, and 10 of them were confirmed to have been infected with the virus.

The cruise ship will be berthing at the port of Yokohama, and the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare will send 10 newly infected individuals to medical institutions in Kanagawa Prefecture.

As a result, the number of infected passengers on the cruise ship has been confirmed to be 20 including the 10 confirmed on the 5th.

The Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare has been requesting that approximately 3,700passengers and crew members remaining on board the ship be kept on board, and in principle stay in the cabin for 14 days, as the inspection continues.

 

[mickey2942]

It does sounds like they had no clue. But they certainly should have (JMO). It was already known to be an outbreak in China by the time he flew in to San Jose airport in the US.

The does concern me that if, at the end of January, the US medical caregivers were not already screening for CV, then how many people were seen in emergency rooms and regular doctor offices where the staff didn’t screen for CV?

And then my next thought is, how many people in end of January were seen for “flu-like symptoms” and then, as is often the case, told to go home and come back if they get worse.... but CV was never suspected or mentioned. Because medical caregivers were not on alert.

ETA: In other words- potential that there were people sick with CV who did seek care for flulike symptoms and then went home and no one was the wiser.... and they exposed a ton of people.



MOO

Agreed. And most folks who go to the hospital for "flu", get shoved in a corner. Although, the VA admitted my husband last year, for flu, he got IV fluids, and better care than I would have given him, at home. Probably because he is 80, and 100% SC.

OMG! Stuck in a cruise ship room?! For weeks?! We always get an indoor cabin, because we are either out and about or sleeping like the dead. But for 2 weeks?!

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Agreed. And most folks who go to the hospital for "flu", get shoved in a corner. Although, the VA admitted my husband last year, for flu, he got IV fluids, and better care than I would have given him, at home. Probably because he is 80, and 100% SC.

OMG! Stuck in a cruise ship room?! For weeks?! We always get an indoor cabin, because we are either out and about or sleeping like the dead. But for 2 weeks?!

Egads, stuck in an interior room for two weeks without going outside the room AT ALL, and they have told them that smoking is prohibited even for the folks with balconies. (read this, no link as didn't think it would be relevant here until now) Talk about cold turkey... pass the Chantix and Nicorettes! And no coffee or teamakers in the room... I would not be in good spirits like Ben is. I haven't seen the digs for the folks on Christmas Island, just heard complaints. But I would take Christmas Island over an interior room on a ship without food available on demand any day of the week. For many folks, no coffee and no cigarettes = wild crazy person that cannot be reasoned with

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Egads, stuck in an interior room for two weeks without going outside the room AT ALL, and they have told them that smoking is prohibited even for the folks with balconies. (read this, no link as didn't think it would be relevant here until now) Talk about cold turkey... pass the Chantix and Nicorettes! And no coffee or teamakers in the room... I would not be in good spirits like Ben is. I haven't seen the digs for the folks on Christmas Island, just heard complaints. But I would take Christmas Island over an interior room on a ship without food available on demand any day of the week. For many folks, no coffee and no cigarettes = wild crazy person that cannot be reasoned with

They would end up throwing me overboard in that situation.

 

[MJPeony]

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.co...san-diego?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true
Four hospitalized as coronavirus quarantine starts in San Diego

"medical screenings performed after their arrival at Marine Corps Air Station Miramar Wednesday morning found that three adults and one child had fever or a cough, possible symptoms of infection with the novel virus that has now sickened more than 25,000 people worldwide.

To be clear, there is no clear proof that any of the four is infected by coronavirus. Many different illnesses, including the common cold, cause the symptoms that the repatriated travelers exhibited. Additional DNA-based testing at the CDC will be necessary to determine what exactly is causing those symptoms. In the meantime, all four were transported to medical facilities out of an abundance of caution and to keep any infection from spreading in the two quarantine locations on base."

 

[MJPeony]

From the same article/link that I just posted:

“....care would be handled under special protocols specified by the CDC and will include isolation in special “negative pressure” rooms with special equipment that keeps the air inside from entering the rest of the hospital.

Because the virus travels for up to six feet inside large water droplets made airborne when an infected person coughs or sneezes, all medical personnel will wear gowns, gloves, facemasks or goggles and custom-fitted N95 masks to cover their mouths and noses when they enter patients’ rooms.

Overall, she said, caring for a patient with coronavirus is really not different than caring for a patient with the flu which spreads in the same way. These kinds of precautions, she said, are so common that their use requires no additional training.”

Also:

“She said that potential corona cases are not a severe enough threat to require the use of a special isolation ward created at UC San Diego Medical Center in Hillcrest during the ebola outbreak scare of 2014.”

Seems odd to me. People are in hazmat suits elsewhere!