Coronavirus - Global Health Emergency, 2019-nCoV #3

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  • #541
Eyes are a mucus membrane, same as nose and mouth, as a potential opening for virus to enter body.

This is a far more serious virus than AIDS, as there doesn't have to be any exchange of actual body fluids for a person to be infected. It seems to be airborne, like measles and chickenpox. And smallpox. I read that the virus was much larger than the chickenpox virus, so the droplets don't spread as far. But, who really knows?

Are the people infected also breaking out with a rash?
What makes this (CV) more terrifying is that it’s now known to be airborne. It’s known to survive both heat and cold. It has a higher Ro rate. Et cetera. It’s Unknown. Just like early HIV/AIDS of the 80’s...

with HIV, we know that it is communicable via blood, semen, vaginally/anally and breastmilk. It cannot be shared via sweat, saliva, urine, breathing. The other thing with HIV is that we know how to protect against (safe sex/clean needles). We also are to presume everyone can carry it and use precautions. How many here are presuming the person next to you is carrying CV?

Testing kits are OTC. And last, antiretroviral drugs work to control the virus. (*HIV)

It’s unusual to see HIV carriers go from illness to the AIDS syndrome because of readily available diagnosis and treatment.

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  • #542
Thousands on cruise free to go after virus tests

Thousands of people stuck on a cruise ship in Hong Kong for five days have been allowed to disembark after tests for coronavirus came back negative.

Some 3,600 passengers and crew on the World Dream ship were quarantined amid fears some staff could have contracted the virus on a previous voyage.

Another cruise ship where dozens of cases have been confirmed remains in quarantine off Japan.
 
  • #543
Another 3,916 new suspected cases were reported on Saturday, said the commission.

Also on Saturday, 87 patients became seriously ill, while 600 people were discharged from hospital after recovery.

The overall confirmed cases on the Chinese mainland had reached 37,198 by the end of Saturday, the commission said, noting that a total of 811 people had died of the disease.

The commission added that 6,188 patients remained in severe condition, and 28,942 people were suspected of being infected with the virus.

A total of 2,649 people had been discharged from hospital after recovery.

The commission said 371,905 close contacts had been traced, adding that among them, 31,124 were discharged from medical observation on Saturday, with 188,183 others still under medical observation.

By the end of Saturday, 26 confirmed cases including one death had been reported in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (SAR), 10 in the Macao SAR and 17 in Taiwan.

One patient in Macao and one in Taiwan have been discharged from hospital after recovery. - Xinhua

Coronavirus death toll rises to 811 with 2,656 new confirmed cases and 89 new deaths in China
 
  • #544
Canadian Scientists Pioneer Mask That Kills Viruses In Mere Minutes
''A mask that kills instead of blocking harmful pathogens has been developed:
At first glance, the salt mask, which did not look much different from a normal face mask, was a biomedical engineer at Alberta University in Canada. Developed by Hyo-Jick Choi. These masks, which were proved to prevent the spread of 3 different influenza viruses before, thanks to the salt coating inside, were also the subject of an article published in Scientific Reports magazine in 2017.''
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Maybe having one of those pretty salt rock lamps couldn't hurt!

Live Science

Thanks for the article on the salt mask. Very interesting and its great they are starting to build a better mousetrap.

Hopefully we will see these on sale soon.

A week or so ago, there was an article about someone claiming to use some sort of herbal ointment to rub inside the nostrils to prevent infections, and at first I brushed it off, but after further thoughts, I think there maybe something to that or at least rub something on inside that is known to help prevent infection. I think there may be products or cremes that can help and be used like that.

I came up with my own thought of using Vicks Vapor rub jelly on inside of nose but I have no idea if that would do any good. I just like smell of it because it reminds me of my Mom taking care of me when I was sick as a child. :)
 
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  • #546
Communism is alive and well.....even if the people are not.
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Chen Qiushi, a citizen journalist who had been doing critical reporting from Wuhan, the central Chinese city at the epicenter of the outbreak, went missing on Thursday evening, just as hundreds of thousands of people in China began demanding freedom of speech online.

Friends and family later found out from the police that he had been forced into quarantine. By Sunday, Chen's disappearance had started to gain traction on Weibo, China's Twitter-like platform, with many pleading for his release.

In the last few hours the Qingdao public security officers and state security officers ... notified Qiushi's parents that Qiushi has already been detained in the name of quarantine. Qiushi's mother immediately asked them where and when he was taken away, they declined to say," said Xu.

He spoke out about the Wuhan virus. Now his family and friends fear he's been silenced
 
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  • #548
Communism is alive and well.....even if the people are not.
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Chen Qiushi, a citizen journalist who had been doing critical reporting from Wuhan, the central Chinese city at the epicenter of the outbreak, went missing on Thursday evening, just as hundreds of thousands of people in China began demanding freedom of speech online.

Friends and family later found out from the police that he had been forced into quarantine. By Sunday, Chen's disappearance had started to gain traction on Weibo, China's Twitter-like platform, with many pleading for his release.

In the last few hours the Qingdao public security officers and state security officers ... notified Qiushi's parents that Qiushi has already been detained in the name of quarantine. Qiushi's mother immediately asked them where and when he was taken away, they declined to say," said Xu.

He spoke out about the Wuhan virus. Now his family and friends fear he's been silenced


Let’s hope he doesn’t end up dead like the good doctor last week.

IMO
 
  • #549
This video from 9 News in Australia claims there are 5,123 suspected cases in India (at 2:29)


Has anyone seen support for that information elsewhere? It's Alarming!
 
  • #550
Interesting.....wonder if they know what they are walking into....or is there more to this story.
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A flight chartered by the Chinese Consulate-General picked up 61 Chinese nationals from Bali’s Ngurah Rai International Airport on Saturday to bring them back to Wuhan, the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak in China.

The tourists, comprising 49 adults and 12 children, had been stranded in Bali since Wednesday following the Indonesian government’s decision to temporarily halt all flights to and from mainland China.

"The China Consulate General said it had picked up its residents today because they want to celebrate Cap Go Meh [15th day of the first month of the lunar calendar] in their home country,” Ngurah Rai Airport general manager Herry Sikado said on Saturday.

61 Chinese tourists in Bali depart for Wuhan in time for Cap Go Meh celebrations - The Jakarta Post
 
  • #551
This video from 9 News in Australia claims there are 5,123 suspected cases in India (at 2:29)


Has anyone seen support for that information elsewhere? It's Alarming!
I only see 3 confirmed cases.....but frankly I won't be surprised. Once its there and in Africa, it will be a calamity.
See below the Indian government's response of treatment protocols. It will be a disaster......
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There have been three confirmed cases of coronavirus in the country so far, all in the southern state of Kerala. The state government, on Feb. 4, declared the fatal disease as a “state calamity.”

Coronavirus brings more bad news for India’s beleaguered economy
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The Indian government’s Ministry of AYUSH, which promotes alternative medicine systems in the country, released a health advisory on January 29 that advocates the use of homeopathy and traditional remedies, such as Indian systems of medicine, to ward off infections of the newly circulating 2019-nCoV coronavirus.

“It is profoundly irresponsible of the Ministry of AYUSH to endorse homeopathy as this entirely undermines public understanding of science and medicine, and elevates pseudoscience with potentially dangerous consequences,” says David Robert Grimes, an Irish science writer who has published research showing homeopathy to be ineffective, in an email to The Scientist. Grimes has argued that the proposed mechanisms of homeopathy are implausible when analyzed from a physical and chemical perspective, and says that it is not surprising, therefore, that the biological effects of homeopathy cannot be measured in large-scale clinical trials.

Indian Authorities Propose Use of Homeopathy to Prevent Coronavirus
 
  • #552
I'm a bit worried, a colleague of mine returned from her month long holiday (Australia / Bali with Hong Kong stop overs) on 25th Jan. She returned to work Mon 27th Jan.
Just last week she tells us her travelling companion had become unwell / was taken to hospital last week and is being tested for Coronavirus :eek:. My colleague stated last Friday that she was starting to feel unwell also, our office isn't the biggest and I'm feeling a bit nervous.
 
  • #553
I have actually been fitted with a hazmat suit, and the face mask that is fitted to your face. I had to wear it for 15 minutes, which was the longest 15 minutes of my life, aside from giving birth. I felt so claustrophobic and couldn't breathe. It was awful. The room was chilly, but after 15 minutes, I was drenched with sweat, that goes no where. This was a training exercise for the ER, how to deal with people who covered with chemicals. We had even set up tents outside with showers for the "patients". The training exercise was a cluster, I can't imagine the real thing.

I can't imagine how those airline pilots wore the suits and masks for flights from China to the United States. That is about a 12 hour flight.
 
  • #554
More on India:

Coronavirus outbreak: 24 bypassing quarantine traced in Haryana

"The patient told us that there was panic in China. That's why he took an alternative route to come back to India. He was scared and that's the reason he did not inform the authorities. However, after showing some symptoms, he came to our hospital. Now we are also telling people that there is no need to hide anything," Dhruv Choudhary said.

According to Choudhary, till Friday, 435 persons were under observation in Haryana, out of which 428 persons have history of travelling to China.

Till date, 16 samples have been sent for testing, out of which seven have come negative while the reports for the rest are awaited.
 
  • #555
This video from 9 News in Australia claims there are 5,123 suspected cases in India (at 2:29)


Has anyone seen support for that information elsewhere? It's Alarming!

Found it.......India suspected cases....
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many under surveillance?
5123 people were under home surveillance as a precautionary measure for coronavirus. At least 741 tests for nCoV have been done so far. Of these 738 have tested NEGATIVE, and 3 found positive.
What's new in Kerala?
The three students who tested positive are stable. A total of 1,999 people, who have a travel history from China and other affected countries, are under observation in Kerala, of whom 75 are in isolation wards of ..

Read more at:
Coronavirus in India: What is happening and what you should know
 
  • #556
Communism is alive and well.....even if the people are not.
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Chen Qiushi, a citizen journalist who had been doing critical reporting from Wuhan, the central Chinese city at the epicenter of the outbreak, went missing on Thursday evening, just as hundreds of thousands of people in China began demanding freedom of speech online.

Friends and family later found out from the police that he had been forced into quarantine. By Sunday, Chen's disappearance had started to gain traction on Weibo, China's Twitter-like platform, with many pleading for his release.

In the last few hours the Qingdao public security officers and state security officers ... notified Qiushi's parents that Qiushi has already been detained in the name of quarantine. Qiushi's mother immediately asked them where and when he was taken away, they declined to say," said Xu.

He spoke out about the Wuhan virus. Now his family and friends fear he's been silenced

... yup. Masking the truth. Not surprised since this is just normal SOP.


No escape: The fearful life of China's exiled dissidents

Barging into your home, threatening your family, or making you disappear: Here's what China does to people who speak out against them


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  • #557
Africa is one of only two continents with no confirmed cases of coronavirus however experts have warned that it may not be long before the first case is confirmed, given its increasingly close ties to China.

Coronavirus: Are African countries ready?

Several countries including Kenya, Ethiopia, Ivory Coast, Ghana and Botswana have dealt with suspected cases, placing them in quarantine while tests were carried out. So far, all have tested negative for the virus.

Uganda's health ministry confirmed it had quarantined more than 100 people who have arrived at Entebbe International Airport. Some of the people have been quarantined at two hospitals in Entebbe and Kampala, while others have been asked to stay in their homes.
 
  • #558
I'm traveling today and don't have my computer. Just my phone. Is the World Health Organization doing a media briefing at 10 a.m. Eastern as usual? I thought they said yesterday. They were going to. Perhaps. Somebody else can search and link as I'm getting in my car.
 
  • #559
February 09, 2020
India Among 20 Countries Likely To Import Coronavirus, Says German Study
''There have been three cases of coronavirus in India; all three were reported from Kerala and all were students who returned from China's Wuhan city - the epicentre of the outbreak - last month.

In addition the state has put over 2,000 others under surveillance for possible exposure.

Last month national carrier Air India evacuated over 600 Indians from Wuhan. They have been quarantined in specially-prepared facilities around the country, such as the one set up by the Indian Army in Manesar near Delhi.

The Humboldt University-Robert Koch Institute study ranks Thailand, Japan - where there are reportedly 25 confirmed cases each - and South Korea as three countries most at risk.''
 
  • #560
I'm a bit worried, a colleague of mine returned from her month long holiday (Australia / Bali with Hong Kong stop overs) on 25th Jan. She returned to work Mon 27th Jan.
Just last week she tells us her travelling companion had become unwell / was taken to hospital last week and is being tested for Coronavirus :eek:. My colleague stated last Friday that she was starting to feel unwell also, our office isn't the biggest and I'm feeling a bit nervous.

Yeah, the scariest new information is the virus is shed before and after ... while they are asymptomatic before symptoms and after they have recovered. So much for screening for symptoms. And fever
 
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