Coronavirus - Global Health Emergency, 2019-nCoV #3

[Inthedetails]

Dozens of auto industry-related plants have been closed in our state just in the last few years, some within the last 6 months. Same in Michigan. Won't be too hard to reopen them. Same with the steel, aluminum, glass and tire biz. Production capacity is here, as are skilled workers, its just dormant.

I have to admit, I wouldn't mind plants re-opening here.

jmo

 

[JerseyGirl]

In Canada:

Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Testing | Public Health Ontario

 

[gregjrichards]

Dozens more people have died from coronavirus, the Chinese government has confirmed, taking the death toll to 871.

Coronavirus latest news: Briton tests positive in Spain as fourth case is confirmed in UK

I’m very sad to give this update. May they Rest In Peace.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Where did they go? Millions left Wuhan before quarantine
By Erika Kinetz - Associated Press - Sunday, February 9, 2020

Officials finally began to seal the borders on Jan. 23. But it was too late. Speaking to reporters a few days after the the city was put under quarantine, the mayor estimated that 5 million people had already left. Where did they go?

An Associated Press analysis of domestic travel patterns using map location data from Chinese tech giant Baidu shows that in the two weeks before Wuhan’s lockdown, nearly 70% of trips out of the central Chinese city were within Hubei province. Baidu has a map app that is similar to Google Maps, which is blocked in China.

Another 14% of the trips went to the neighboring provinces of Henan, Hunan, Anhui and Jiangxi. Nearly 2% slipped down to Guangdong province, the coastal manufacturing powerhouse across from Hong Kong, and the rest fanned out across China. The cities outside Hubei province that were top destinations for trips from Wuhan between Jan. 10 and Jan. 24 were Chongqing, a municipality next to Hubei province, Beijing and Shanghai.

The travel patterns broadly track with the early spread of the virus. The majority of confirmed cases and deaths have occurred in China, within Hubei province, followed by high numbers of cases in central China, with pockets of infections in Chongqing, Shanghai and Beijing as well.

Millions left Wuhan, China before coronavirus quarantine - Washington Times

Am I understanding this correctly? When we follow cases they do Tower dumps and GPS for one person. They have done it for millions of people and have a logarithm or something that shows that for the entire population? omigosh artificial intelligence is way past what I've ever thought it was.

 

[JerseyGirl]

People who are from China, are now basically stuck here, because there are no longer any flights from the United States to China, or from China.

At least 73 airlines have canceled flights to China amid coronavirus fears — here's the full list

Anyone can still fly to and from China. Not all countries banned flights into or out of China. I just checked and from JFK flights connect to cities in China with a stopover to change planes in Seoul, Korea; Taipei, Taiwan and Moscow.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I'm watching the ISU Figure Skating Championships on NBC. It was taped yesterday in Seoul, South Korea. Many in the audience are wearing masks.

 

[mickey2942]

Absolutely nuts and no doubt unprecedented!
Wondering if by limiting all these modes of transportation and manufacturing plants ect., will that significantly lower pollution and smog levels and hopefully result in a healthier environment for the ill ?
imo, speculation.

I think that this is going to become a larger crisis. These folks probably don't have unlimited money. Maybe they came for a vacation and now they can't go home. They may need access to shelters, food, possibly medication. Especially if they don't have family members in the United States or wherever they are.

 

[MJPeony]

Twitter

@BNOdesk

Today from Hubei:
2531 new cases
91 new deaths


- 40,134 confirmed cases worldwide
- 28,942 suspected cases
- 904 fatalities
- 6,305 in serious/critical condition
- 3,005 recovered
- Most cases in China - 25 countries reporting cases

 

[Deleted member 158085]

People who are from China, are now basically stuck here, because there are no longer any flights from the United States to China, or from China.

At least 73 airlines have canceled flights to China amid coronavirus fears — here's the full list

I hope nobody’s visa is running out just now.

 

[mickey2942]

Anyone can still fly to and from China. Not all countries banned flights into or out of China. I just checked and from JFK flights connect to cities in China with a stopover to change planes in Seoul, Korea; Taipei, Taiwan and Moscow.

More and more of those flights are being canceled. Maybe China can send planes to pick up their citizens. That is, if they actually want to go back. Maybe they don't want to go back...

It may be time to consider Temporary Protected Status for these folks, so they can get jobs legally. That is what they do for folks who can't go home due to natural disasters.

 

[JerseyGirl]

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[dixiegirl1035]

This is how they track people possibly exposed to the virus in Singapore, wondering what kind of "tracking" system they might use in China..
Coronavirus: How contact tracers track down the people at risk of infection
by Salma Khalik
Feb 9 2020
''Dr Olivia Oh, assistant director in the Communicable Diseases Division of the Ministry of Health (MOH), said the hospital where the patient is warded would do an activity map - this refers to everything the patient has done and the people he has been with over the previous two weeks.

Her colleague, Mr Pream Raj, also an assistant director in the division, added: "The mapping is detailed, 24 hours, minute by minute, with no gaps."

If there are gaps, then the contact tracing team would call a patient to try and jog his memory. And if the patient is too sick, they would approach his next of kin instead.''

He said although 14 days may seem like a long time ago, most people have routines, so it is not that difficult to recall what they had been doing.

If they had meals with people, and because of Chinese New Year many did, they need to remember who was there. If it was at a restaurant, they need to recall if any of the serving staff spent much time with them, or if the contact was casual.

For the 17 patients from China who were confirmed with the virus here, Dr Oh said they would start the contact tracing from the time they arrived in Singapore, assuming that they had caught the virus while still in China.

They would get the list of passengers sitting in the same row, as well as two rows in front and two rows behind the patient, from the airline, and get in touch with them.

Mr Raj said the airlines, taxi companies and Grab, since quite a number of the visitors use that service, have all been very cooperative - they are obliged to provide all information required under the Infectious Diseases Act.

Sometimes, patients have no taxi receipt, remembering only that they were in a blue cab. The contact tracers would go through the closed circuit television footage at the hotel driveway to identify the taxi.''

I've seen The WHO Surveillance form, I think I even posted it here.

They are going above and beyond as to geo-tracking that is not even on the list of information They require.

that may change soon as far as in the future?.does WHO have folks to collate? That technology can help them collect this information to be documented. Iirc They are using surveillance forms that were created way before Geo tracking on smartphones could be done. I wonder how they are collecting and putting that information together. So much data to gather and put in a format to understand and share etc.

Another example of Technology outpacing laws?

 

[JerseyGirl]

WHO advance team on coronavirus on way to China: Tedros tweet

"I've just been at the airport seeing off members of an advance team for the @who-led #2019nCoV international expert mission to #China, led by Dr Bruce Aylward, veteran of past public health emergencies," Tedros said in a tweet from Geneva.

 

[gregjrichards]

A new analysis looking at data from different types of coronavirus has shown that many strains can live on surfaces such as glass, plastic or metal, for up to nine days.

Scientists Predict Coronavirus May Live For Up To Nine Days On Surfaces

This is very concerning. Apologies if already posted.

 

[mickey2942]

A new analysis looking at data from different types of coronavirus has shown that many strains can live on surfaces such as glass, plastic or metal, for up to nine days.

Scientists Predict Coronavirus May Live For Up To Nine Days On Surfaces

This is very concerning. Apologies if already posted.

Yes, based on the research I have seen, this virus is as vigorous as Chickenpox, or more so. An infected person could use an ATM, sneeze, get cash, you use the ATM an hour later, even if 20 other people had used the same ATM, you could get the virus, if you got your cash, went in the car, rubbed your eyes. Bam.

And it is interesting, that some people would use the same ATM, and not get the virus.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

For those here that have been following Ben, he is being followed by mainstream media, we at WS Have been allowed because it is through mainstream media., I am very worried about him as of today's post. He has been followed by channel for even when he lived in Wuhan before he evacuated. And is now under quarantine.

I've been traveling out of town for a family health emergency, So listening while I've been driving To stuff on YouTube.

I think that people that are under quarantine may need ... I don't know what to call it, psychological help? He is night and day as far as his most recent post. this link on mainstream media.

I don't know what to say, but he just is not himself.

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[Amonet]

Sorry if someone's already posted this, but this is interesting. A list of the symptoms from 138 patients, and it says that as runny nose and congestion are missing that many people might not have realised they had something like a cold/flu.

Fever appears to be a key symptom in how the virus manifests itself in patients.

Of the 138 patients:

• 99 percent had a fever
• 70 percent had fatigue
• 59 percent had a dry cough
• 39 percent had appetite loss
• 34 percent had body aches
• 10 percent or fewer had diarrhea, nausea and dizziness.

Report offers insights into why early coronavirus cases may have been missed

 

[Tadpole12]

For those here that have been following Ben, he is being followed by mainstream media, we at WS Have been allowed because it is through mainstream media., I am very worried about him as of today's post. He has been followed by channel for even when he lived in Wuhan before he evacuated. And is now under quarantine.

I've been traveling out of town for a family health emergency, So listening while I've been driving To stuff on YouTube.

I think that people that are under quarantine may need ... I don't know what to call it, psychological help? He is night and day as far as his most recent post. this link on mainstream media.

I don't know what to say, but he just is not himself.

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Yep, he seemed a bit out of sorts.
It's day 8 of his quaratine, 5 more to go.
I mean, I'm tired out just from reading and thinking, for 3 weeks.
And this has been a life changing event for Ben,
he's post the high of just getting home,
you gotta crash sooner or later
and then recoup emotionally.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Regarding Ben: He did seem a little off but I think he might be worrying about his future. I don’t think he will be happy doing online teaching

I more worry about the girl “friend” he left behind (the one he went grocery shopping with before he left). He said she’s American and staying behind in Wuhan because she has 2 cats and didn’t want to leave them. I hope she is ok, I kept thinking about her all weekend.

 

[MJPeony]

Hmm.... interesting. I was wondering when/if this would start to happen:

“One senior Silicon Valley-based tech executive surnamed Wu said he’s considering flying to a third country to circumvent the ruling that foreign nationals who have been in China for the last 14 days aren’t allowed into the U.S.

This idea is gaining popularity in chat groups on Chinese social media platforms where those stranded are gathering to swap stories and tips. Popular third-country destinations include Thailand and Dubai, according to conversations seen by Bloomberg News.”

11 Million Chinese Live Outside China. Many Are Now Stuck Inside


Other info in the article as well.