Coronavirus - Global Health Emergency, 2019-nCoV #3

[gitana1]

Citizen Journalist Covering Virus Outbreak From Wuhan Goes Missing

China’s internet watchdog has stepped up its policing efforts, announcing on Wednesday it would conduct “targeted supervision” on the largest social media platforms including Weibo, Tencent’s WeChat and ByteDance’s Douyin. The regulator has already frozen a raft of social media accounts, then stepped up online scrubbing to quiet a wave of confused outrage over the death of the doctor that first raised red flags about the disease.

More and more I’m thinking this poor man was murdered.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Today's daily WHO situation report is out. https://www.who.int/docs/default-so...20200208-sitrep-19-ncov.pdf?sfvrsn=6e091ce6_2

 

[gitana1]

Agree. No one could foresee this disaster happening, right? Post WWII businesses and govt. understood these hazards pretty well. China isn't the only trade partner with these vulnerabilities. I do feel sorry for the citizens of China, it must be getting pretty terrible over there. I hope they get this epidemic under control soon.

What’s scary is that before they locked things down in Wuhan, five million people left the city. Where did they go?

It’s also concerning that many people who died were classified as fatalities from something other than the coronavirus. So what does that mean for what true numbers look like?

The coronavirus is less deadly than SARS so far: Here’s why the fatality rate could rise

 

[dixiegirl1035]

More and more I’m thinking this poor man was murdered.

In what manner? By the army or his colleagues exposing him to the virus purposefully?

 

[JerseyGirl]

“I have seen bodies”: A Chinese citizen journalist reports on the coronavirus from Wuhan

Quartz spoke with Chen Quishi recently about how he became a citizen journalist, why he decided to go to Wuhan, what things are like there, and what he says to people who wonder if he’s actually a Communist Party agent. Here are edited excerpts.

 

[gitana1]

Just want to add something to my earlier post about precautions that DH and I take to avoid illness on cruise ships. Our days of sunning and hanging out by the pool are long gone, but DH likes to swim laps, and I might take a quick dip in a shallow pool to cool off. No more lounging in the sun, though. One thing that we avoid at all costs is getting into hot tubs. Some folks tend to plant themselves in hot tubs and stay there for hours, consuming multiple drinks and never exiting to use the bathroom Scary to think what germs might be lurking in shipboard hot tubs

Doesn’t the heat kill stuff? Or is it not hot enough?

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Doesn’t the heat kill stuff? Or is it not hot enough?

No, it is just the right temperature for many bacteria to flourish. With the added skins cells for them to feed on, perfect cocktail for Pseudomas and other infections which are well known hot tub infections. MOO

 

[gitana1]

In what manner? By the army or his colleagues exposing him to the virus purposefully?

Im thinking not by the virus. Maybe they just went into his room and suffocated him. How long does it typically take after contraction to die? I mean wasn’t this man giving several updates looking hale and hearty right before he suddenly died?

They arrested him for trying to spread the word and protect the public. They forced him to retract his statements.

But then he kept talking...


Widespread Outcry in China Over Death of Coronavirus Doctor

ETA: That’s a NY Times article I linked. I have no idea why it’s in Arabic script! I will try to fix it.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

While there is plenty of activity about Coronavirus on Websleuths, here is another Cruise Critic discussion about how Princess Cruises is handling the threat. This is a different thread than the one I shared yesterday. There are likely similar discussions on CC forums for other cruise lines, but I only read the Princess board.

PRINCESS SHIPS & CORONA VIRUS

 

[JerseyGirl]

A number of false theories have been spread globally about the virus in recent weeks.

Russia's Channel One, for example, has been airing coronavirus conspiracy theories on its prime-time evening news show Vremya (meaning "Time"). In one segment, the host links the virus to US President Donald Trump, and claims that US intelligence agencies or pharmaceutical companies are behind it.

Another debunked conspiracy theory , published in British and US tabloid media, linked the virus to a video of a Chinese woman eating bat soup.

Reports claimed the clip was filmed in Wuhan, the epicentre of the virus, when the outbreak was first reported. However it was filmed in 2016 and was in Palau, in the western Pacific Ocean - not China.

And a now-widely-discredited scientific study released last month linked the new coronavirus to snakes - leading to global headlines discussing the spread of "snake flu".

WHO warns against coronavirus 'trolls'

 

[Medstudies]

Targeted population reduction through complacency??

I really hope not, but have to say the thought crossed my mind when reading this.

Kinda makes a person pause.

And kinda makes me wonder if reactions would be different if this had first hit the ruling class,

...and I’m not even going to think about how this could be used as a weapon of war...
Who needs suicide bombers?...

 

[JerseyGirl]

Coronavirus cruise ships: 63 people ill aboard Diamond Princess

Two more passengers, including another American, have fallen ill on the Diamond Princess cruise ship thatquarantined off the coast of Japan, bringing the ship's total to 63 passengers who have been diagnosed with coronavirus.

Meanwhile, Holland America's MS Westerdam cruise ship, which made a stop in Hong Kong last week, has been denied entry to ports in Guam, the Philippines and Japan.

 

[gitana1]

No, it is just the right temperature for many bacteria to flourish. With the added skins cells for them to feed on, perfect cocktail for Pseudomas and other infections which are well known hot tub infections. MOO

Eww.

 

[KALI]

This is starting to look like the holocaust.

Video shows officials in protective suits dragging suspected coronavirus carriers from homes | Daily Mail Online


Eighty-six people die of coronavirus in a DAY in China as Beijing begins mass arrest of sufferers and videos shows hazmat suit-clad goons dragging people from their homes as the death toll hits 724

“after China's Vice Premier Sun Chunlan called on a 'people's war' against the fast-spreading epidemic.”

War... does this imply martial law?

 

[JerseyGirl]

Many doctors believe that deaths and infections in China are undercounted because testing facilities at hospitals and laboratories are under severe strain.

The number of new cases confirmed in China has stabilized in the last few days, but World Health Organization officials cautioned against reading too much into the numbers, saying Wuhan and Hubei province are still in the midst of a “very intense outbreak.”

Dr. Tedros said the W.H.O. has identified a team of experts who will be traveling to China to provide assistance with the outbreak, and said the leader — whom he declined to identify — will depart for China on Monday or Tuesday, with the rest of the team following later.

Coronavirus Live Updates: An American in Wuhan Dies of the Virus

 

[Betty P]

No, it is just the right temperature for many bacteria to flourish. With the added skins cells for them to feed on, perfect cocktail for Pseudomas and other infections which are well known hot tub infections. MOO

Glad my hot tub days are over. Haven't used one since my gym membership expired in the late 80's.

 

[Medstudies]

This is starting to look like the holocaust.

It’s looking ominous.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Doesn’t the heat kill stuff? Or is it not hot enough?

Another member answered, and I concur. Hot tubs are not hot enough to kill bacteria. I've also never been sure how often cruise ship hot tubs are thoroughly cleaned and disinfected. Passengers sometimes use them late at night, so they are probably not emptied or cleaned every day, unless it's done in the wee hours after passengers have gone to bed.

 

[Amonet]

There's been some suggestion of the numbers of confirmed cases in Hubei possibly showing signs of leveling out the past couple of days.

Surely, though, if all those people who've just been taken into the quarantine centres are tested and many of them test positive, that number is going to have a temporary spike before starting to come down again?

 

[dotr]

Snippets from interesting article, imo.
Coronavirus: China mainly interested in 'safeguarding the regime' | DW | 08.02.2020

''Unlike the first two crises, the internet has allowed information about the epidemic to be shared very quickly and widely, which exacerbates the level of challenge that the Chinese government has to deal with. Even though Beijing tries to censor online discussion about the coronavirus epidemic, they still can't achieve a total blackout. Chinese people already know most of the facts about the epidemic. Even many Chinese officials probably know that they are lying about the epidemic.''


''Additionally, most people in China are still afraid of dying from the coronavirus, so they would rather stay at home than taking it to the street at a time like this. The Chinese government is taking advantage of this and imposing strict control over road traffic and other aspects of people's everyday life. I think the Chinese government is using this epidemic to strengthen its control over society.''

''If we take a look at the people in charge of leading the efforts to contain the virus outbreak, it is obvious that none of them has any expertise in public health. This is an "amateur" team trying to give orders to a group of public health experts, and their real function is not to contain the virus, but to maintain social stability in China.''

''From the perspective of enforcing censorship, the taskforce has done a brilliant job. CCTV has been broadcasting how developing countries are "praising" China's efforts to contain the epidemic. However, since these are all countries that have taken huge amounts of loans from China, they are paying China back by praising its behaviors unconditionally.''