Coronavirus Global Health Emergency, 2019-nCoV

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My middle daughter works in a hospital and I'm really worried as she has asthma, as do I. I think as far as air travel goes it's not just the planes, it's anywhere an infected person went in the airport too...bathroom, gift shop, restaurant, so many places to spread germs.

I know. Both our adult children work at our Hospital and I myself am in and out. Thankfully not this week. I need to connect with them to see what if any protocols are in place. I don't panic over these situations but I am very diligent when it comes to exposure to anything. Oh and another thing if I absolutely have to use a public bathroom I use a paper towel to turn on the taps, do my hand washing, open the door to exit with another paper towel and if the trash can isn't near the door I just toss it on the floor. I have noticed many public bathrooms have the trash cans near the door for this very reason. My Bad :D
 
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Anxious foreigners await rescue from China virus epicentre-Breitbart Anxious foreigners await rescue from China virus epicentre - Breitbart


“In the past week we’ve not been able to go out and buy anything to eat,” said Mashal Jamalzai, a political science student from Afghanistan at Central China Normal University.

He told AFP that he and his classmates had been living on biscuits, and his embassy had not responded to requests for help.

“We want to be evacuated as soon as possible, because either the virus, the hunger or the fear will kill us,” Jamalzai said.

Thousands of foreign students and other international residents live in Wuhan, a normally bustling transport hub in central China home to a huge steel and auto industry.

But with schools, hospitals and public offices shut and no transport to and from the city, Hubei University student Siti Mawaddah says the city now “looks like a ghost town”.

“The situation in Wuhan right now is very intense and worrying,” the 25-year-old Indonesian told AFP, adding that the situation had taken a psychological toll on her and her classmates.

“If we stay in Wuhan, it’s as if we’re just waiting for our turn to get infected,” she said.

Mawaddah said she had heard the United States plans to evacuate consular staff and some American citizens living in the city, and hoped her own government could do the same. (SNIP)
 
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I know. Both our adult children work at our Hospital and I myself am in and out. Thankfully not this week. I need to connect with them to see what if any protocols are in place. I don't panic over these situations but I am very diligent when it comes to exposure to anything. Oh and another thing if I absolutely have to use a public bathroom I use a paper towel to turn on the taps, do my hand washing, open the door to exit with another paper towel and if the trash can isn't near the door I just toss it on the floor. I have noticed many public bathrooms have the trash cans near the door for this very reason. My Bad :D
One summer my older daughter came to work in my lab and I had to teach her universal precautions and biosafety. She always thought I was weird because I have a habit of washing my hands as I leave the house and as soon as I come in the house- because in the lab you always wash your hands when you go in and again after you take off your gloves and come out. Now she knows; I am still weird but not for that reason.
 
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Romania: Consumer Protection Authority calls for ban on imports of Chinese products that could be infected and put consumers at risk
Bingo !!
 
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I have some business contacts in Wuhan and other parts of China. I’m very sad for them and what they must be going through.
Without sounding like a drama queen, this really is looking like a disaster. (Obviously from a Health standing but also economically too)
 
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Hand washing is your best defence and so is using PPE correctly. Lots of video on the net regarding donning and doffing. I have to go shortly but will check in later.
 
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Gosh I always remember the CNN female anchor who years back didn't realize she was still miked. She entered a washroom. Made snarky comments about a SIL (I believe it was a SIL) and many folks pointed out how she left the bathroom without washing her hands :eek:
 
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Without sounding like a drama queen, this really is looking like a disaster.
The sequence is known and the virus can be cultured. CDC and Health Canada have already started (via third party companies) to work on a vaccine. There is a rapid diagnostic test available to any sites that can do RT-PCR and a point-of care test will be available shortly (works like a rapid strep test). The virus must not spread far via aerosol or we would have thousands of new cases every day. The current mortality rate is ~ 3% which is on par with the 1918 Flu but remember that mild cases don't report to the hospital and so are not counted in the denominator; meaning the actual rate could be much lower. People who need to be are mobilized.

Remember that the actual Flu kills 40,000 people every year.
 
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The sequence is known and the virus can be cultured. CDC and Health Canada have already started (via third party companies) to work on a vaccine. There is a rapid diagnostic test available to any sites that can do RT-PCR and a point-of care test will be available shortly (works like a rapid strep test). The virus must not spread far via aerosol or we would have thousands of new cases every day. The current mortality rate is ~ 3% which is on par with the 1918 Flu but remember that mild cases don't report to the hospital and so are not counted in the denominator; meaning the actual rate could be much lower. People who need to be are mobilized.

Remember that the actual Flu kills 40,000 people every year.
this is very true.

Coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, China: Vaccine may be ready in 3 months


“Officials with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases say they can quickly develop a vaccine because Chinese scientists rapidly sequenced the virus’s genome.

“The agency has the funding and technology,” said Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. “Barring any bureaucratic or regulatory holdups, which I don’t think will happen, we can almost certainly get into phase one in three months.

phase one being lab tested animals.

we will have to wait to see how fast tracked it is from there to get to human trial phases 2 and 3
 
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In my fantasy, drones will be utilized to drop off food, medicine and other necessities to those who are unable to go out.

ETA.. rbbm
Drones being tested as medical delivery vehicles in Montreal
September 25, 2019
''Within the next few years, high flying drones above Montreal and in rural parts of Quebec could be used as life-saving delivery vehicles.

The unpiloted robotic aircrafts are being tested by emergency physicians at the McGill University Health Centre (MUHC) to deliver blood supplies and defibrillators.''
''Dr. Homier is leading a research team studying the feasibility of drones to deliver blood supplies and other medical needs in emergency cases.

“This could be used in case of disaster, especially when the regular transportation routes for the vehicles are unusable,” she said.

The drones are also being tested to deliver defibrillators in places that are hard to reach for paramedics.''
 
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Great idea!!!

In my fantasy, drones will be utilized to drop off food, medicine and other necessities to those who are unable to go out.

ETA.. rbbm
Drones being tested as medical delivery vehicles in Montreal
September 25, 2019
''Within the next few years, high flying drones above Montreal and in rural parts of Quebec could be used as life-saving delivery vehicles.

The unpiloted robotic aircrafts are being tested by emergency physicians at the McGill University Health Centre (MUHC) to deliver blood supplies and defibrillators.''
''Dr. Homier is leading a research team studying the feasibility of drones to deliver blood supplies and other medical needs in emergency cases.

“This could be used in case of disaster, especially when the regular transportation routes for the vehicles are unusable,” she said.

The drones are also being tested to deliver defibrillators in places that are hard to reach for paramedics.''
 
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Finally something is being done... Why not other airports?
... all commercial flights between San Francisco and Wuhan have been suspended but that CDC health officials will be remaining at SFO in case passengers arriving on other flights displaying signs of the illness.
Coronavirus: Wuhan Airlift Of State Department Personnel Rerouted To Southern California

I think I have these correct. You can scroll down and look for arrivals/departures, and ones taking off etc. I think the plane was to leave ??? to arrive in US tomorrow?

Wuhan Tianhe Airport (Wuhan, Hubei) ZHHH / WUH Flight Tracker ✈ FlightAware
Flight aware Wuhan Airport live feed

Ontario Intl Airport (Ontario, CA) KONT / ONT Flight Tracker ✈ FlightAware
Flight aware Ontario CA Airport live feed


Anchorage Intl Airport (Anchorage, AK) PANC / ANC Flight Tracker ✈ FlightAware
Flight aware Anchorage Alaska

ETA Corrected origin airport to Wuhan noted in link Coronavirus: Wuhan Airlift Of State Department Personnel Rerouted To Southern California
 
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Confirmed in Germany
 
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Random thoughts:

So all those planes and trains that have been transporting persons carrying (or potentially) the virus...Are they being properly disinfected? (Well I can guess there was at least two weeks where they most likely were not ...) What about the TSA agents handling their luggage?

I’m concerned for patients receiving care in hospitals... surgical patients, cancer patients, trauma patients. I wouldn’t want to be any where near a hospital if an outbreak hits here.

How “prepared” will be adequate and sustainable?

I’m healthy. My pantry is pretty well supplied - (okay maybe a month.)

But what happens to those who aren’t? What about people who need dialysis or oxygen?

I’m sitting in my midwestern home, half a world away, and yea, this virus scares the crap out of me. Even if it doesn’t get “here”. The fact that people are walking around, oblivious to the fact that they are infected, for two weeks; is frightening.

walking time bombs.

At the moment it is looking more like a seasonal flu. If it stays that way people need to consider what they'd do during a bad 'normal' flu year, except that there won't be a vaccination available for people with existing respiratory tract conditions or for carers or nurses or police. But the flu vaccine hasn't been going all that many years, and the take-up over here in the general population doesn't seem very high.
 
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OK knowledgeable ones, what about mail packages , parts etc from china , I touch a lot of this at work, plus we are a small open concept building and all day we have deliveries , ubers , uber eats , door dash etc SHOULD I be worried? I would say yes!! of course!!( unless I don't have an ounce of common sense !)

Most packages and parts will come by ship, and I doubt the virus would live long enough to be a problem.

Panic is a common response, but it's rarely a commonsense response.

Let's, for now, assume this is like a yearly flu but one without a vaccine. So someone who normally takes the vaccine for health reasons, or someone who takes it because they're in a caring situation (to protect the person they're caring for) has a lot more reason to be concerned than most people do.

They, especially, should not panic, but maybe think about what they could do if it becomes necessary. So if you can stock up on a few things that will last, and will get used whether there's an emergency or not, that's a good idea. Get an extra box of washing powder and make sure you have a full bottle of bleach. Basic cough and cold treatments, sore throat sweets, tylenol, ibuprofen, some lemons, a couple of boxes of tissues. Some menthol gel or those menthol things you stick up your nose (yes, I know I have a way with words). Maybe some throwaway gloves. A spare bottle of hand soap and some hand sanitizer for each person in the family to carry in their bags or pockets. You could fill the gas tank in case at some point there's a state of emergency and it's hard to go out for gas during daytime hours when you're at work. Think about whether you have a job where you can work from home. Ask your workplace if they have a plan and ask if they can share any tips with employees, or maybe they need to stock up on hand sanitizers and plastic gloves?
 
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I know. Both our adult children work at our Hospital and I myself am in and out. Thankfully not this week. I need to connect with them to see what if any protocols are in place. I don't panic over these situations but I am very diligent when it comes to exposure to anything. Oh and another thing if I absolutely have to use a public bathroom I use a paper towel to turn on the taps, do my hand washing, open the door to exit with another paper towel and if the trash can isn't near the door I just toss it on the floor. I have noticed many public bathrooms have the trash cans near the door for this very reason. My Bad :D

These are great ideas! Even if you have long sleeves on your coat you can pull them down a bit and use them to open/close some doors in public bathrooms.
 
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