Couple who adopted 12 children shot to death #2

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  • #682
hi there! You pretty much just described lpatrick and his band of degenerates. Would it be reasonable to say that a place like that was good for conducting other kinds of unsavory business transactions? Recruitment, procurement and provision - of things not necessarily sexual in nature?

And, not meaning to be callous here, but focusing intently on motive, wouldn't a buy here, pay here operation offer the same opportunities with a slightly more "gentile" facade?



I'm still leaning towards

yes ---very possible
 
  • #683
NOT sure if this is relevant yet -- but is some info on the back seat lounge allegedly connected to byrd billings.

update from: http://sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.ex...comp_name=COASTALCREATIONS&names_filing_type=


Detail by Entity Name
Florida Profit Corporation
COASTAL CREATIONS, INC.
Filing Information
Document Number V28767
FEI/EIN Number 593117325
Date Filed 04/10/1992
State FL
Status ACTIVE
Last Event REINSTATEMENT
Event Date Filed 12/20/1999
Event Effective Date NONE
Principal Address
2215 W. CERVANTES STREET
PENSACOLA FL 32503 US
Changed 12/20/1999
Mailing Address
1032 S. WESTLAND DR.
APPLETON WI 54915
Changed 04/21/2004
Registered Agent Name & Address
HASSELL, RUSSELL A SR
17268 SE 101 STREET AVE. RD
SUMMERFIELD FL 34991 US
Name Changed: 05/21/2008
Address Changed: 05/21/2008
Officer/Director Detail
Name & Address
Title P
HASSEL, RUSSELL A SR
17268 SE 101ST AVE. RD
SUMMERFIELD FL 34491
Annual Reports
Report Year Filed Date
2007 04/26/2007
2008 05/21/2008
2009 04/16/2009
Document Images
04/16/2009 -- ANNUAL REPORT
05/21/2008 -- ANNUAL REPORT
04/26/2007 -- ANNUAL REPORT
04/12/2006 -- ANNUAL REPORT
08/29/2005 -- ANNUAL REPORT
04/21/2004 -- ANNUAL REPORT
09/05/2003 -- ANNUAL REPORT
03/20/2002 -- ANNUAL REPORT
05/15/2001 -- ANNUAL REPORT
09/08/2000 -- ANNUAL REPORT
12/20/1999 -- REINSTATEMENT
03/02/1998 -- ANNUAL REPORT
04/29/1997 -- ANNUAL REPORT
12/03/1996 -- REINSTATEMENT
Note: This is not official record. See documents if question or conflict.


I'm looking at the financials to see if I can connect the dots
 
  • #684
Did you notice someone wearing a white shirt in the upper left corner in the driveway on the front video of the Billings' home after the van stopped?

I am trying to find the video online. Found It:

http://www.pnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=videonetwork

I can not locate the full four minute video, but you can see him here at 1:19:

http://video.ap.org/?t=By Section/U.S.&g=0713dv_fla_murdered_couple&f=1139949


He leaves right before they come back out. You can see a white object in the screen and then walking out of view on the full front video.
 
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  • #686
NOT sure if this is relevant yet -- but is some info on the back seat lounge allegedly connected to byrd billings.

update from: http://sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe...s_filing_type=


Okay, I need to check but I think he has a lein on Russell too - must be part of the whole let's never pay taxes again scheme. Back to the clerk records! Good find!
 
  • #687
Did you notice someone wearing a white shirt in the upper left corner in the driveway on the front video of the Billings' home after the van stopped?

I am trying to find the video online.

I don't remember seeing that but will look in a minute.
 
  • #688
Did you notice someone wearing a white shirt in the upper left corner in the driveway on the front video of the Billings' home after the van stopped?

I am trying to find the video online.


I haven't seen it! Will you post a link??:blowkiss:
 
  • #689
Well, I can tell you from living in a community where people live their lives to avoid paying taxes that you can live VERY well, if you don't pay them. I live in a community where we have a group of people called the Irish Travellers, and they pay cash for everything, and have HUGE homes. Crazy. In other words, if someone is living without paying taxes, they may appear to be rich to the outside world.

But why arent they in trouble for not paying them?People really get away with this?
 
  • #690
first post
http://www.wkrg.com/florida/article...er-investigation/187127/Jul-15-2009_10-52-pm/
am I doing this right? what is up with this realtor getting arrested?

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You did fine :-) Its good to let us know the subject matter of the link, however. I'm not sure why she was arrested other than what is listed on the link...she was a friend and landlord of who LE claims was "the mastermind".

I've only been able to read chunks from this thread - been in and out!
 
  • #691
I am at work so I am on here off and on, I could pm the name to one of you if that would be ok. I have not posted on here much so I am not sure how to do that.

You don't have enough posts yet! If you do a google search - just post the link to google with some results
 
  • #692
I wonder if he is the guy who requested the records on Gonzalez JR custody divorce - what was his name...Alan Guruis or something?? Am I close or off base?? If he was close with P.Long and she was close with LPG - then it could be a connection???

Yes it was !!!
 
  • #693
Jenmrk...You have to have 50 posts in order to PM. You're on your way!
 
  • #694
Alan guirguis
 
  • #695
I found this info last night and it puts Ronny Phillips in a different position than that of just "friend." Originally when I read the review posted by "tracker owner" I thought this person had possibly purchased the vehicle type Tracker and was so named Ronny Phillips. Now because of the wonderful, easy to digest post from P'Colaguy, I realize Ronny Phillips didn't purchase a tracker-he was a tracker/repo man. It certainly appears that they were all (Billings and Phillips) in cahoots with one another. I wonder why this review appears to be from Ronny to Ronny and hmm...he can't reach himself....

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...8&sspn=38.775203,78.662109&ie=UTF8&mrt=rblall

This is good! I also found different things under "Ronnie Phillips" in the records - it is ENDLESS!!! But I did post the stuff a few pages back! great job!!!!
 
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Ok, I read the PNJ comments and it struck me that the reason this case is a humdinger is because of the businesses involved. This isn't about a safe. This case was a murder and it involves drugs, stolen cars, predatory lending, a 'business network', tax evasion, a BIG inheritance...I think it was more about preserving the 'network' and Bud was a threat somehow. He may have had proof in that safe, but the bottom line is about a network of businesses, not a payday in the safe. Pam Long Wiggens is not the 'mastermind' even if Morgan actually says it. After all, Morgan said he was "concerned" with Pamela Long's "safety". Just hours before handcuffing her.
 
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Alan guirguis

Thanks Linda! This is all i could find in all of FL records:

GUIRGUIS BRANDY LYNN GUIRGUIS ALAN PAUL 12/06/2006 Court paper LEE 2006000454997 0/0 1

No document available.
 
  • #699
Back to the sovereign/copyright/trademark stuff:

It's partly becoming more and more OBVIOUS in hindsight:
http://www.escambiaclerk.com/xml_or_1b.asp?uinstr=2005454548

Look where it has "MELANIE ANNE BILLINGS©..." (all capital letters -- the belief by the Sovereign that that is what makes us a "fiction" of a person)

"...appoint Melanie Anne Billings, a living soul..." Sovereign people are to make their name "properly cased" and it says "living soul" -- which according to the Sovereign stuff I've come across is important. They believe if you put "person" that's part of the government contracting back with you.

Then on page 2 where she PRINTS IN CAPITAL LETTERS her "name" and then signs her "soul" name.


WOW.

Those small details that keep creeping up



Did ya'll happen to see that the notary on the above linked document was not Phillips....it was a Henry Meenan. A quick search brought me to this:

http://www.conroetoday.com/jmps/resdtl2.cfm?resumeid=300

Note PURSHU AUTO SALES – Office Manager, A/R, Collections, Recovery, Inventory, A/P, Accounting, Taxes, Titles, Reception, Assistant to owners. Oversee management of 3 other companies by same owners. 12 years. (Henry Meenan, Pensacola, FL)


There are also some other choice businesses listed below, a couple strip clubs. Hmmm....of course this is all weird and imo
 
  • #700
Did you notice someone wearing a white shirt in the upper left corner in the driveway on the front video of the Billings' home after the van stopped?

I am trying to find the video online.

HOLY !#%!#%!#%!#!%#

yes!!!!!!!

http://pnj.com/section/special

look on the right where it says videos, then scroll to the "billings security videos"

watch the VERY TOP LEFT of the driveway where the van enters--nothing is there...the van enters..stops..comes down the yard..A PERSON OR OBJECT APPEARS WHERE THE VAN STOPS.

Go to where there is about 1:30 left in the video and it moves...when the van turns and leaves..IT'S GONE!

ETA: watch it in full screen. I thought it might've been a light or something that just 'happened' to be there..but it comes when the van does and leaves before the van does
 
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