Couple who adopted 12 children shot to death #2

[JustMe42]

Very true, but that's a LONG driveway/road to go down that leads to nowhere but their house. (click on the map below the videos on the pnj page and zooooom all the way into it)

Do you know how many they say entered the front of the house, and how many entered the rear? We know one was sitting in the vehicle. arrested 7 total right? (that was suppose to be at the house)

 

[FromFL]

Do you know how many they say entered the front of the house, and how many entered the rear? We know one was sitting in the vehicle.

From the press conference yesterday:

4 confirmed in the red van - 3 entered the home + 1 stayed in the van
3 in an escalade - knew 2 entered the home, but weren't 100% sure if the + 1 stayed in the vehicle or got out.

 

[SuziQ]

first post
http://www.wkrg.com/florida/article...er-investigation/187127/Jul-15-2009_10-52-pm/
am I doing this right? what is up with this realtor getting arrested?

I didn't read the article. I couldn't get the link to open, not your fault, high traffic or something.

All we know right now is she was arrested for Accessory after the fact and the Sheriff will tell more at a presser scheduled for 10AM CST.

And welcome to WS!

 

[mikeysmommom]

Keith Lamont Davis is listed as the registered agent for Coastal Creations (aka BackSeat CLub) in 2000 (in addition to Russell Hassel).

In the below doc, he is listed as Domestic altercation with a woman (beating up the strippers, maybe??):

http://www.escambiaclerk.com/xml/xml.asp?ucase_id=46495533

Divorce

 

[Gypsy Road]

taking the safe, just to look like a robbery????
how long did it take these monsters to do all this from start to finish?
Who was in the house besides the children?

Sheriff Morgan said they were in and out of the house in a little less than 4 minutes! I still can't comprehend how fast it went down. I'm praying the Billing's didn't suffer and were "gone" immediately up to heaven.

 

[FromFL]

O/T : just wanted to say thanks to all on here...this has been interesting and keeps me from sleeping when I should. :woohoo:

I've always enjoyed trying to figure things/crimes out, and when there are many more people to bounce back and forth ideas it's just captivating.

Now, someone PLEASE remind me next time I get involved in one of these to make sure I create a spreadsheet or word file.

It's much easier to create flowcharts and follow with the names that way.

Also, do most of the threads on here move/advance this fast normally?

TIA

 

[JustMe42]

From the press conference yesterday:

4 confirmed in the red van - 3 entered the home + 1 stayed in the van
3 in an escalade - knew 2 entered the home, but weren't 100% sure if the + 1 stayed in the vehicle or got out.

Well....that dont add up then does it???????

Definately someone at that driveway.

Surely LE seen that.

 

[FromFL]

Well....that dont add up then does it???????

Definately someone at that driveway.

Surely LE seen that.

Unless that mysterious person is the 3rd person from the Escalade who DID get out and act as a lookout.

I need to go back and watch the rear video portion and try to look at it vs the map and see where those 2 did get out of.

BTW if you watch the rear portion, the 1st person coming to the house has what appears to be a long gun (rifle, automatic assault rifle or shotgun) and the 2nd person appears to be holding a handgun, imo.

 

[JustMe42]

Unless that mysterious person is the 3rd person from the Escalade who DID get out and act as a lookout.

I need to go back and watch the rear video portion and try to look at it vs the map and see where those 2 did get out of.

BTW if you watch the rear portion, the 1st person coming to the house has what appears to be a long gun (rifle, automatic assault rifle or shotgun) and the 2nd person appears to be holding a handgun, imo.

Werent the others suppose to be in an Escalade?? If so, did it come down the same drive way?? I didnt see it. If not, how could he got out of the Escalade there?

 

[Lindadanette]

I found Keith Lamont David in the Escambia records. Theres a citation against him and the Backstreet so I know that's the right Keith Davis. His Bday is 12/27/64.

 

[Lindadanette]

Goodnight everyone - Great sleuthing. We sure know more about the Sovereign movement than we did before!

 

[FromFL]

Werent the others suppose to be in an Escalade?? If so, did it come down the same drive way?? I didnt see it. If not, how could he got out of the Escalade there?

I'd guess there's another video that shows it, but the video hasn't been released. Or maybe it arrives on the rear camera before the edited part that has been released, so we don't see it.

I can't tell for sure where that camera is (rear video). It almost appears to be be more of a sideview. If so, they could've jumped out of the 2nd vehicle on the driveway and went through the patch of woods.

 

[Gypsy Road]

This is from Lexus116:

Linda, I had some info I thought you all might be interested in. Earlier in the day someone said they had heard the DEA was involved because some of these guys were involved in the "MS-13" Gang. Well, just now on ABC news the reporter said he is hearing the same thing, they were possibly involved in the MS-13 gang and drug trafficking. I looked up MS-13 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Salvatrucha) and was a bit taken back when I read they are involved in human trafficking and home invasions. It reminded me of that off-the-wall video on YouTube last night.

Also, they just showed an interview w/ Long's neighbor (in the exclusive Soundside neighborhood) and she said in the past week all sorts of people have been going in and out of her house and the red van was seen in her driveway.

Some are saying the red van came from a "car graveyard" that was next door to the 5th Dimension auto detailing place in Ft Walton that Sumner owned.

Do you know of the MS-13 gang?

Great information - I can't wait until you join us!!!!!!!

Pardon me if this has already been thought of...(it prolly has, but I'm not finsihed reading the the entire thread yet - I lost my internet connection for most of the day - grrrr)...anyway..I heard on the local news this evening that Pam L had been seen transporting children frequently. Could she be part of a child/human trafficing ring?

 

[NSC]

Linda, go look under worldco! It isn't listed on the front page' u need to click on them and open them' my phone won't let me open PDF who is he divorced from? Also how about a terry lowery or someone like that??

 

[NSC]

Msrondak, wow that is a GREAT theory!! Thanks and well welcome to ws!
Gypsy, I thought she was said to be transporting his children???

This whole thing is crazy!!!

 

[NSC]

Just a thought while laying here to scared to sleep, this case is BIG news, and I fully beleive the billings wanted to be one sovereign! I think if somehow this is the case the media gonna have a field day discussing this issue, I have to admitnit is a pretty interesting idea! Wonder what those that never heard of the concept will make of it.

 

[JustMe42]

Just a thought while laying here to scared to sleep, this case is BIG news, and I fully beleive the billings wanted to be one sovereign! I think if somehow this is the case the media gonna have a field day discussing this issue, I have to admitnit is a pretty interesting idea! Wonder what those that never heard of the concept will make of it.

"Wonder what those that never heard of the concept will make of it" Prrobably be alot of people go to jail in a few yrs for not paying their taxes......lol

 

[gazelletime]

Just a thought while laying here to scared to sleep, this case is BIG news, and I fully beleive the billings wanted to be one sovereign! I think if somehow this is the case the media gonna have a field day discussing this issue, I have to admitnit is a pretty interesting idea! Wonder what those that never heard of the concept will make of it.

Barbara Walters time!...lol

Hey, have you actually READ through the arrest reports (and the statements given by each person arrested..)?

http://www.pnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...&Kategori=GRAPHICS&Lopenr=90715017&Ref=AR#top

 

[Gypsy Road]

Msrondak, wow that is a GREAT theory!! Thanks and well welcome to ws!
Gypsy, I thought she was said to be transporting his children???

This whole thing is crazy!!!

Maybe so...things are so fuzzy for me after all the reading i've done to catch up on this thread. I had just read about the MS group (human trafficing), and then another post about the red van being seen at her house often, and then another about the woman being arrested, and then I thought about what I had heard earlier - that she was seen transporting kids and my imagination just took off!

BTW - there is some AMAZING sleuthing going on around here! WOW!

 

[FromFL]

I just found the arrest reports on pnj.com for the first 7 arrested.

http://www.pnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...&Kategori=GRAPHICS&Lopenr=90715017&Ref=AR#top

They give semi-info on "long guns" and 9mm casings. Also it mentions the Escalade (SUV in the reports) and that Sumner was the driver.