Credit Card Records

[tiredofthis]

That's what it would seem, huh? Cindy wanted to just hand over receipts, but the detectives told her no, no, no - we need to see the actual credit card statement. Cindy was uncharacteristically silent when confronted with this. I wondered if maybe a suspicious charge is on one of those statements, something that would cast more suspicion on Crazy, .... er I mean Casey. :angel:

Welcome to WS.

That would be my guess. It seems like Cindy would want to do everything possible to find Caylee and wouldn't think twice about handing over the credit card statement. Does anyone in this family behave like a normal human being?

 

[SharetheLight]

IIRC, Cindy gave all of the receipts to JB. LE didn't give her enough attention.

I think Lee made some type of list, even if it was just mentally, of them before CA gave them to JB (I am assuming it is JB, in the interview Lee just said the lawyer). Then Lee went to JB and asked him for the receipts so he could write a list of all the receipts and totals. Lee gave this list to LE and noted that there were some receipts missing he seemed certain that CA gave more to JB.

 

[BondJamesBond]

So true...but...guess what - I bet LE already knows what charges are on the statements and are testing CA and letting her weave her web of deception even tighter. LE wouldn't have to have the A's approval to get this documentation from the CC companies, would they? I feel like they already have them! As always, MOO

Exactly, Boots-OK.

IMHO, LE is setting the hook for trial. Give the Anthony's enough rope and they'll hang themselves...so to speak. IF anyone beyond Casey is going to be charged, LE will build the file on them too. Documenting lack of cooperation makes the case against each individual easier for the jury to handle.

 

[seeker78]

Oh, there is a reason Cindy won't give them to LE... maybe purchasing chloroform online? Or drugs? They can subpoena them, of course, and may have already. Unless Cindy destroyed them, in which case they can get the records from the credit card companies, I would think.

Just another example of Cindy not cooperating with law enforcement. I love it when people make her seem so innocent. The interview is very telling with the lies she's feeding the media. This doesn't surprise me.

 

[cheko1]

What I don't get is that the grandparents refuse to take a polygraph. They won't turn over documents that MIGHT help. They try to incriminate people who do take polygraphs and turn over everything the LE ask for. I used to feel sorry for these people thinking they were in denial... I now think other wise.

Cindy refused to give TES a piece of Caylee's clothing, or anything with her scent on it, to help find her.

 

[Balthazar]

I was thinking that there could have been a purchase from an internet site, something along the lines of CHLOROFORM perhaps? CA sure was insistant that there was nothing on there so why didnt she want to just produce the bloody things to prove that? People with nothing to hide, hide nothing.

Something incriminating is on the statements. Can't wait to find out what it is.

I agree with you on this, I theorize that CA is trying to hide the purchase of chloroform. This could also explain why CA doesn't want to release medical records - mentioned by Yuri in conjuction with the missing credit card statements. Remember Casey had a seizure and JG took her to the hospital last fall? An overdose of chloroform can cause a seizure.

LE asked her about several specific stores: Target, Walmart, Dillards and she claimed not to have credit cards for these stores. My guess is that LE knows exactly what cards she has.

A person who has nothing to hide has no reason to conceal anything from police.

 

[karenmamo]

I think LE already has them. They are just letting the pubic know Cindy won't cooperate with them. Could be they will use it against her/KC in the trial. They know what they are doing. jmo

Yes, they got them I am sure.
However that interview was not specifically for the public. Yes, we got it eventually, but not the original intent.

LE bringing up her failure to bring them the records was to argue against her when she was telling how cooperative she had been. LE is saying: Not really, Cindy,......hey, how about those records we asked for. JMO

 

[MagnoliaMom]

I agree there is some damning evidence possibly on the credit card statements.

IIRC, there were three cards? Sears, JC Penny's, and a BOA card, right?

Casey will never be brought up on charges for them though because CA hasn't made a formal complaint about them. LE can't bring Casey on charges, what if CA gave her permission to use them? That's all CA has to say and then it would be up to the card companies to bring forth anything for fraudulent use of a card which would mean CA would lose them too, if she said she gave Casey permission that is.

I can't believe she hadn't turned them over, all though, with CA nothing should surprise me.

I hope LE subpoenaed them!

In the interview with CA (part 4) she says there is only 1 credit card - JC Penney. She says the Bank of America card is a debit card but she also says it is a Visa card which means it is a credit card too (but I certainly got the impression she was trying to lead LE to believe it wasn't). She says KC didn't use "either" bank card which indicates there were 2.

LE said in this same part of the interview that KC was using the JC Penney card all over so I would think it was not a card that could only be used at JC Penney's. I have a Sears Mastercard that I can use anywhere. My bill comes from Sears and I could go into the Sears store to pay it but I am not limited to using it only at Sears.

This interview was done awhile ago so I would think LE has long since gotten those records whether through compliance or noncompliance. I also think there were more cards than what she admitted to in this interview. That's just my opinion though.

 

[Betty Boop]

In the interview they are speaking specifically of the JCPenney's statement. What could you buy at Penney's that would be relevant here?.... Luggage...

Yes, luggage (duffle bag?). Also blanket or rug, and perhaps storage container -- and does JC Penney's still sell tools such as shovels? I too thought they were talking about the JC Penney card.:waitasec:

 

[passionflower]

IMO, CA is not co-operating...............she is involved in THE BIG COVER UP.........enough already, arrest her too!

 

[Kooba]

There has to be something on those statements that would be detrimental to KC or CA. If CA won't release them, LE can get them from the credit card company so that wouldn't be a huge problem. Just goes to show CA is not being forthcoming and cooperating as she always claims. Also LA said when he picked up KC's belongings from AL's home, there were some receipts and some were missing. I believe he made a list of what he had, but did he include all that he had, or did someone else get their hands on them? Just wondering. After all, we all see how fast that money disappeared.

If they did not have the credit card record, how do they know receipts were missing? How would they know this? Just wondering.

 

[nursebeeme]

I don't understand why the LE cannot subpeona them from the credit card company. They subpeona everything else.

and perhaps they did. We don't know everything LE has done. I still am confident this case will be prosecuted and it only makes logical sense that if computer searches on chloroform were done then any credit cards Casey had been using would be examined to determine such a purchase. I personally cannot wait for the trial to see what all we did not know before it was revealed! I am not a betting person, but I put all my chips with LE.

 

[less0305]

I'm not so sure that LE has gotten the cc statements yet. I know if consent isn't given, then LE has to get a search warrant or some sort of court order - to get that they would have to have probable cause of a crime. I can't say for sure that I think they'd get probable cause on CA or GA. I know having worked with LE that getting a magistrate or judge to give you a s.w. isn't always as easy as people think it is. Sure, they'd have plenty of probable cause to get anything KC would have in her own name, but something in someone else's name... I'm not sure they'd get a s.w. easily.

 

[Short_Stuff]

Tough cookies if Cindy wont give them! Then LE needs to supeona the records. LE really needs to stop babying this family IMO.

 

[less0305]

Tough cookies if Cindy wont give them! Then LE needs to supeona the records. LE really needs to stop babying this family IMO.

You subpeona records or people to be brought to a court. I think they would have to get a search warrant with probable cause that CA (or the holder of the card) committed a crime. LE may not have enough probable cause that CA committed some crime to get a magistrate or judge to sign a search warrant for her credit card statements.

 

[BeagleMom]

I think the CA interview illustrated several things....

1. How selective CA is regarding info. It's as if she has decided that hiding things from LE is more important than finding Caylee. Remember the A are convinced that Caylee is alive. If they really believed that Caylee was alive, they would have given all records and taken a polygraph. Their behavior defies what comes out of their mouth. They are trying to cover for KC and claim they are looking for Caylee. You can't do both. And the A think we are stupid enough to not see what they are doing.

2. How little the A regard LE. They don't understand that once they called LE and LE has decided that a criminal activity has taken place, the ball is out of their court. LE can get access to any record that will help them solve the crime.

3. How much smarter the A think they are than the rest of us. LIke KC, GA and CA think if they say it, that makes it so. They behave like they think they are above everything, except using the media, community and LE to find Caylee. It's as if, they think, everyone takes orders from them, i.e. Tim Miller.

4. HOw sharp LE really is. They know what they are doing. I have complete faith that they will "assist" anyone that is responsible for all of this to hang themselves.

I am so frustrated with this case that I can barely keep one thought going without thinking of another thing about all of this that bugs me.

But, I do know that I don't care how long it takes, I want LE to continue to find evidence to put KC away. If they have to take a back seat while KC is tried for economic crimes, than so be it. I do agree with many of you, that once KC is in gen population, she will melt. When she gets thrown into a cage with a bunch of sociopaths just like her, she is going to do anything she can to find a way out.

I always feel so much better once I say my piece!!

BeagleMom

 

[princess]

I don't know if there really is anything relevant on the CC statements..but I do know LE would need them to help with the time line of where she was at certain times..the CC statements would show which city she shopped in and help them with her whereabouts that are unaccounted for..
You would think CA would care about that..but like she said..KC is not a murderer

 

[Ocean Lover]

What I don't get is that the grandparents refuse to take a polygraph. They won't turn over documents that MIGHT help. They try to incriminate people who do take polygraphs and turn over everything the LE ask for. I used to feel sorry for these people thinking they were in denial... I now think other wise.

I agree with you too! I think this tells me as to why they hired a high profile criminal attorney. He is not just doing a PR thing for them because last week that family spokesperson spoke again too. I don't think they did anything to cause Caylee's death but I think they may be covering for KC now due to a guilty conscience. The day of the big fight was the last time anyone saw Caylee alive. Giving her a date that she had to be out of the house or they would get custody of Caylee maybe???

 

[Sdavidson11]

I am sorry part of it was a joke, the other part I read that was what the searchers were looking for a duffle bag and a rug. The way Casey is I also thought it would be appropriate for her to shop for herself since she seems to steal from her mom and friends. Sorry if I misled you. Trying to add some humor to a morose situation.

 

[Sdavidson11]

Another reason I wrote what I did is why aren't CA and GA showing LE the credit card statements if they had nothing to hide. By not showing LE in makes them look like they are hiding something!