Crime Scene Animation by Websleuths Member grayhuze

[kimi_SFC]

I cannot go to the youtube link either. Is theere a name I can search for on youtube?

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try this one. http://youtu.be/mzvneay8lNg

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[cindymac]

I have already conceded...you obviously don't read comments. yes, it could be a typo. You haven't examined the skull in person so you don't know either.

Well I do read comments, and wouldn't say you've conceded because "could be a typo" implies some doubt.

If you're not sure it's a typo, there's only one alternative: that Dr. Horn made a statement that's impossible.

Why do you think Dr. Horn would say something that's impossible?

 

[geevee]

Maybe I missed it, but have you done an animation of the entire crime, gunshot to TA being put into the shower? And do I inderstand correctly that you think the last two pics were in the early part of the crime and not near the end (esp the last photo) of her dragging him to the shower? Sorry if this is redundant and covered earlier in the thread.

 

[grayhuze]

I cannot go to the youtube link either. Is theere a name I can search for on youtube?

gray hughes. I have an arias play list.

 

[grayhuze]

Maybe I missed it, but have you done an animation of the entire crime, gunshot to TA being put into the shower? And do I inderstand correctly that you think the last two pics were in the early part of the crime and not near the end (esp the last photo) of her dragging him to the shower? Sorry if this is redundant and covered earlier in the thread.

It's possible those images were taken after the gunshot wound to the head and blood running by the neck and shoulders is a result of blood pouring out of the mouth and nose. This frees up a lot more time for Jodi to "process" the crime scene. for example in the image of Jodi's foot and Travis could have been early on and not near the end when he is being dragged back. This is something new I have been thinking about. However, i had always thought that that is an image of jodi turning travis around by the arms. If you notice Travis looks lifeless there despite his hands being up. there is no muscle tone and his right foot is limp to the side. There are only 4 tiles in that bathroom that that image could have been taken from. 1 near the linen closet and 3 in a row near the carpet where Travis was almost beheaded.
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pretty crappy tiling job...didn't even rotate the tiles, 3 in a row.

 

[geevee]

It's possible those images were taken after the gunshot wound to the head and blood running by the neck and shoulders is a result of blood pouring out of the mouth and nose. This frees up a lot more time for Jodi to "process" the crime scene. for example in the image of Jodi's foot and Travis could have been early on and not near the end when he is being dragged back. This is something new I have been thinking about. However, i had always thought that that is an image of jodi turning travis around by the arms. If you notice Travis looks lifeless there despite his hands being up. there is no muscle tone and his right foot is limp to the side. There are only 4 tiles in that bathroom that that image could have been taken from. 1 near the linen closet and 3 in a row near the carpet where Travis was almost beheaded.
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pretty crappy tiling job...didn't even rotate the tiles, 3 in a row.

LOL Yeah, not a great tiling job.

I do think they were closer to the linen closet from the strong overhead light in that pic (5:32:16), I'm still not positive what was happening in the last one but it's not a distance shot of his back as JM posits ('see the blood here, looks like the blood on his neck here' [referring to 5:32:16]) as I was able to clarify a hand close to the camera lens (probably what set off the camera to take the shot):



I tend to think 5:32:16 is in the middle of her stabbing him, his head is too high for his neck to be cut already and although I've been able to clarify her bare foot moving in the foreground I can't get a shot of a good pic showing the entire picture (the best I could do was a shot of Flores monitor where the color looks good without projector darkness and such but he blocks the right side, I'm very much looking forward to the pics being released after trial is finally finished so we can really see them and not third hand screen grabs from video.

 

[grayhuze]

LOL Yeah, not a great tiling job.

I do think they were closer to the linen closet from the strong overhead light in that pic (5:32:16), I'm still not positive what was happening in the last one but it's not a distance shot of his back as JM posits ('see the blood here, looks like the blood on his neck here' [referring to 5:32:16]) as I was able to clarify a hand close to the camera lens (probably what set off the camera to take the shot):

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I tend to think 5:32:16 is in the middle of her stabbing him, his head is too high for his neck to be cut already and although I've been able to clarify her bare foot moving in the foreground I can't get a shot of a good pic showing the entire picture (the best I could do was a shot of Flores monitor where the color looks good without projector darkness and such but he blocks the right side, I'm very much looking forward to the pics being released after trial is finally finished so we can really see them and not third hand screen grabs from video.

yeah...my original theory was that the foot shot was close to the linen closet. I have a video on that location. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB7DbaZ6qXs Jodi's bare foot is not in any of the photos. Her foot with a sock on it is though.

 

[Harmony 2]

It's possible those images were taken after the gunshot wound to the head and blood running by the neck and shoulders is a result of blood pouring out of the mouth and nose. This frees up a lot more time for Jodi to "process" the crime scene. for example in the image of Jodi's foot and Travis could have been early on and not near the end when he is being dragged back. This is something new I have been thinking about. However, i had always thought that that is an image of jodi turning travis around by the arms. If you notice Travis looks lifeless there despite his hands being up. there is no muscle tone and his right foot is limp to the side. There are only 4 tiles in that bathroom that that image could have been taken from. 1 near the linen closet and 3 in a row near the carpet where Travis was almost beheaded.
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pretty crappy tiling job...didn't even rotate the tiles, 3 in a row.

I removed photo with copyright watermark. Number 63 and 64 on the following link are the same photos.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...avis-alexander-graphic-details_n_2435100.html

 

[grayhuze]

maybe the same photos but i had marked them up to show the squiggly line on the tile. So it rendered the post useless.

 

[grayhuze]

I removed photo with copyright watermark. Number 63 and 64 on the following link are the same photos.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...avis-alexander-graphic-details_n_2435100.html

LOL...I guess that was a pretty obvious watermark.

 

[grayhuze]

This photo analysis or lay person's analysis. Forgive the green lines, I used them to line up with my 3d scene image to find the precise location.
JOdi would be visible while looking down the hall when that ceiling shot was taken.

 

[grayhuze]

It would be somewhere around here. Perhaps a little farther back
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[LinTX]

View attachment 69664 Just like I thought. Under the frontal lobe yet perforating the skull, just like my video. Thanks for the support.

Except that the entry point you drew here is too low and your end path is too far back. You again assume a straight trajectory between the entry and the end point, but even with accurate placement of those two, the initial path is still in question. The bullet did hit & go through another bone, that is known. That most probably did cause it to deflect off it's original path into the cheek area, but to be as accurate as possible you'd have to draw a line from the entry point to the exit point in the cranium and then from there to the final resting point in the cheek. I have politely asked you to address that exit point a couple times. How does the bullet go out of something you say it never entered?

 

[geevee]

yeah...my original theory was that the foot shot was close to the linen closet. I have a video on that location. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB7DbaZ6qXs Jodi's bare foot is not in any of the photos. Her foot with a sock on it is though.

Her bare foot is visible in 5:32:16, look just above lower arrows, you can see it, it's a bit blurry as it's moving to the right, her toe nails look painted (or it could be blood but it's fairly uniform so I think it's polish:



Also, I think what appears to be a sock is actually a towel, probably what she had one or both weapons hidden in, you can see his bare back through where an ankle should be, to me it's clearly not a socked foot.

 

[grayhuze]

Except that the entry point you drew here is too low and your end path is too far back. You again assume a straight trajectory between the entry and the end point, but even with accurate placement of those two, the initial path is still in question. The bullet did hit & go through another bone, that is known. That most probably did cause it to deflect off it's original path into the cheek area, but to be as accurate as possible you'd have to draw a line from the entry point to the exit point in the cranium and then from there to the final resting point in the cheek. I have politely asked you to address that exit point a couple times. How does the bullet go out of something you say it never entered?

I am on to another topic now. Thanks for you insight.

 

[grayhuze]

Her bare foot is visible in 5:32:16, look just above lower arrows, you can see it, it's a bit blurry as it's moving to the right, her toe nails look painted (or it could be blood but it's fairly uniform so I think it's polish:

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Also, I think what appears to be a sock is actually a towel, probably what she had one or both weapons hidden in, you can see his bare back through where an ankle should be, to me it's clearly not a socked foot.

Yeah..I know the photo well. It's not a bare foot it is a foot with a dark sock on it.

It's odd that your image blocks out exactly only her foot off to the side.
here is a video I made to help you understand what you are looking at better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB7DbaZ6qX
yes the shoe isn't a sock. I didn't have a sock but the position of the foot is correct.

 

[grayhuze]

Here is a video I made catching her making a statement that proves she remembers running up the hall a second time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB7DbaZ6qXs

 

[grayhuze]

one thing about the placement placement of the subjects in exhibit 162 is that both Juan and Jodi discussed it being further down the hall by the carpet. When I set the camera lens to 16mm, which Bryan Neumeister said the close up of Travis was set to I got better proportions when I set the 3d jodi and Travis down the hall by carpet as well.

 

[geevee]

Yeah..I know the photo well. It's not a bare foot it is a foot with a dark sock on it.
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It's odd that your image blocks out exactly only her foot off to the side.
here is a video I made to help you understand what you are looking at better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB7DbaZ6qX
yes the shoe isn't a sock. I didn't have a sock but the position of the foot is correct.

The right bottom of that pic is blocked by Flores' shoulder, it's a screen capture when the picture was showing on his monitor, the color and clarity (although distant from the camera and I had to enlarge it a fair amount) is better than the ones shown from the projector. If you will look just above where the two blue arrows are, from the bottom left corner of that monitor, you will see her bare foot. The larger blue arrow is where her foot is moving upward. Just take a close look, you will see it. Unless of course you're on a tiny screened device, you really need a computer with monitor.

In your picture, look above your 'socked foot' where the pant leg comes over it, see Travis' back and the blood swath where an ankle should be (if it were a foot)?

 

[SevenSins]

Geevee, I personally can't make out what you see, but this is what I see. I'll go ahead and quote a post made by another WS member (on a 2013 thread) for reference.

Compare these two photos for perspective, its the same "pose"...